Is oral sex sex ?

I guess us people with vaginas can't have sex with each other no matter how hard we try.

 

Yes, and a handjob and cunnilingus can count under the second definition since that definition does not imply penetration at all. The primary definition of "Sexual intercourse" means "heterosexual penetration" traditionally. It is not possible for gay people of either gender to have sex by the biological definition.

Intercourse = Reproductive act, not penetrative act. Ask any straight person if anal or a blowjob counts as sex or sexual intercourse and they will say no. They will say that unless you fuck a girl, you are still a virgin. You are a gay man, you cannot have "intercourse" with anyone other than a woman. It's simple biology.

Otherwise there is no difference between 'sexual act' and 'sex'. They are the same.

 

I think a majority of gay people have expanded intercourse to include anal sex with another man. Straight people may not see it that way, but the gay community may.

 

The gay community also takes a huge shit on the lesbian community by saying 'they can't have sex/intercourse because there's no penis penetrating anything'. Which is my point of arguing the straight/biological definition. It's hypocritical as seen in this thread. Gay men saying lesbians can't have sex, yet It's not possible for gay men to have sex either because sex is strictly heterosexual.

 

I call it "oral sex", not "oral something-like-sex-but-not-really".

Lex

 

It is what you want it to be. Virginity's guidelines, like sexuality, is fluid as far as I'm concerned.

 

You know, to me it is sex. But for a lot of people, it sort of functions as a high intensity foreplay. That's kind of how my partner and I do it. You can totally finish with oral sex and it can be the main act, but I don't know, I think that just depends on the couple.

 

Everyone on this site seems to care so much about labels.

To me oral sex is sex, but who cares, especially when in the context of trying to figure out if you're still a virgin. Everyone experiences and values things differently; instead of worrying about what to call it just consider what it means to you.

 

Agreed. I probably wouldn't say someone had lost their virginity for receiving a hand job. Other people might. It's up to individual definitions. Wanting a one-size-fits-all codified definition isn't going to happen.

And I disagree. Dry humping, handjobs, etc. are things that are sexual acts--they involve sexual stimulation, but to me they are not sex. To others, they might be. But most of us do distinguish between the two. Otherwise, touching someone's knee and getting them aroused could be "sex". We all draw lines with the definitions.

 

So you're just trolling.

 

It counts for some people. It's not up to me to tell someone else whether or not they had sex. The only person I can do that for is me. And my parameters might contradict someone else's.

Ugh, can't believe this is my 1000th post. :rolle:

 

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He already said he personally considers oral sex to be sex. Regardless, why ask the question if there's only one answer you'll accept?

 

Yeah that makes more sense to me. It's probably alien to me because to me anything I'd consider a sexual act would be sex. Kissing for example; I understand It's only done between partners but I'd NEVER say kissing (even if passionate) was a sexual act because to me It's not.

 

Yeah, I mean, passionate kissing can be pretty arousing to me, but calling it a "sex act"? That's pushing it a bit.

 

He never said that. He just said it was a personal thing. And I agree.

I mean, you might even consider handjobs and mutual masturbation to not really be sex- but my partner and I have finished off with it a couple times.

I wouldn't consider masturbation on your own to be sex (because there's no other partner involved) But scissoring/fisting/rubbing/petting with a partner? I consider that sex but it's an individual thing.