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  1. Sadness

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    Hey guys

    Quiet peace told to post this thread here, thank you i didnt know blog post didnt het many views, so im going to repeat what i wrote on my blog post

    Thanks to everyone who will reply :slight_smile:

    Im not native so sorry for my english mistakes.

    Im currently questioning my sexuality, im a 18 year old male, and i would like some advice because i think its the only way now, i tried everything...

    So to start, ive always thought i was straight, actually i still think i am, but my mind tells me otherwise..

    Everything started after a friend of mine came out to us, a thought in my head popped "what if im gay too?"

    I started analysing everything i could to see if i was gay, and i saw about HOCD, but i dont know if this thing really exists.

    So after too much thinking, my head started to overthinking about whether i like this friend or not..

    And nowadays i cant even see him personally, because i feel so anxious and nervous, even when i hear his voice i start to panic because i get scared

    So i started watching gay porn, i was into porn since im 12, and then i start watching gay porn to see my reactions.

    So i didnt like it and i still dont, i dont even know why i still watching, just to prove myself im not gay, or to prove that im gay.

    And my mind still tells me that im, i go out to walk and when i see a men i get nervous too.

    And im always trying too imagine me kissing other guys, and it doesnt arouse me too

    And im so tired of all this ):

    So i saw a post from chip here in this forum, and he said that we should masturbate to thoughts to see which one of them give us arousal.

    I watch a lot of porn, like a lot, and i masturbate like 5 to 6 times a day, i feel numb.

    And my head keeps telling me im gay and i just want to be happy.

    So i started masturbating to thoughts, and i didnt get aroused too

    Like i get feelings in my penis when im masturbating to men, some responses, but i think its because im masturbating, but i cant reach a full erection, or an orgasm
    Sometimes i got feelings in my penis that feel really strong, and i always think im going to get aroused to it.

    But when it feels like im getting an erection, instead it gets more flacid but it feels really really weird

    Today i masturbate thinking of me having sex with men, and it was the same until i imagine him orgasm

    And then i started getting what i thought it was arousal, but i couldnt get an erection and it was so weird because the feeling was like i dont know, weird and hurt a little bit, because i was there trying to get hard for too much time.

    But i felt something and i tried again, and again, and again, until my arm started to hurt.

    And its always like that, its a compulsion, and i have to masturbate until i get certain that im not gay

    And im scared about this feeling, because it felt like it was a arousal, and i tried like 5 times, but i wasnt able to get hard.

    And i tried after too, bexause im obssesive about this, and i didnt get an erecrion too

    Maybe im just overthinking?

    But it only got like that because i was masturbating, because when im not masturbating and only thinking, my penis dont even move

    So i dont know id its a normal reaction because im masturbating to it, or if it was a arousal.

    There was other times when i felt somethung similar but everytime i was going to masturbate to proof i couldnt do it too

    So i dont know guys, am i gay?

    I dont like my friend but my mind tells me i like him

    Everything happens because of my head

    I dont know anymore, im super sad ):

    Im tired of this, so am i gay? Or i just have some ocd

    But men these feelings when i masturbate

    But i cant get erection

    And i can get with women super quick, i fantasize about them, i imagine myself with them and its great, i love

    So i dont know, what do you think?

    I hope yall have a great day
     
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    Helpp432.....Hello and welcome to Empty Closets! Ultimately you are the only one who can decide if you are gay or straight. However, I have to say that from everything you've said it looks like you are probably straight. There is no need to be in a rush about your sexuality. Perhaps if you just give the whole thing a rest for a few days, it will become more clear to you. Sometimes we can get so involved in details that the situation becomes more complicated than it needs to be. So think about giving yourself some time off from this whole discussion that you are having with yourself, then come back to it later and see how you feel then. We are glad that you found us here on Empty Closets...take care!
    .....David. :gay_pride_flag:
     
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    Hi quebec, tnx for the reply

    I do really try to just move on with my life, but i always have intrusive thoughts along with a feeling in my groin, it bothers me to the point that i can only be relaxed by testing myself angain.

    I try so hard to just think about something else, or forget about the feeling, but it wont go away unless i test myself to these thoughts

    So im basically in a cicle, im ok in my day, feeling good then a intrusive thought appears or i see something that triggers me, i get nervous and got rhis feeling in my groin, its just a feeling, i dont get aroused by it, but it bothers me so much, and i just cant do anything unless i try to masturbate, and then i come back to the masturbate thing, where i masturbate to the thought trying to see if i would like it, which doesnt happen.

    So i try my best, and im really trying but this thoughts are messing me up

    Why do i have this thoughts?

    But, tnx for the reply men i appreciate a lot, and tnx for the help, im going to try to relax :slight_smile:
     
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    It honestly sounds as if you have OCD, anything which just gets you stuck in a circle is not productive. You should probably see a professional about it. There are therapies and even medications which can help with it. If it actually is that you are LGBT and just need to accept it a therapist can help with that also.
     
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    Hi quietPeace. I reqlly dont know if i have some sort of OCD, the only thing i know is that i dont qant to think about gay sex, or fantasize about it, but i need to do to prove something to myself, and i dont know what it is.

    Im currently going to a psychiatrist and i take medicines for anxiety which i have all my life.

    But im really disturbed by all this.

    I just tried to fantasize with gay stuff again, just how chips said qe should try to do, but i didnt masturbate i just thought.

    And i thought of giving a oral in a man, and i didnt get erect but i sure have felt something in my groin along the process

    And the feeling is weird, like i feel kinda of a pressure in my groin, and some movements, and even sometimes i got a feeling that i cant describe.

    Is kinda my penis is flacid but at the same time is tense?? So its like im flacid but my penis is so tense that sometimes even hurt.

    And it sure feels like im going to get hard, since this feeling actually made my penis grow a little because its tense.

    But i didnt get erect or aroused by the hole process

    So why do i feel this??????? Im confused

    And when i switch my fantasies at the same time its like a gate opens and i get aroused mentally and physically.

    So what is this feeling, is it normal to have these feelings qhen thinking about that?

    I assume you guys/girls are gay or bi right? So when you think about this, giving a oral to someone of the same sex, do you feel the same i feel? Or its completely different, because i really dont know.

    When i think about it i dont get grossed out, just a little bit actually, its just like "what in the hell am i doing?" Until i switch fantasies.

    And i dont get aroused and rock hard like people here say they do

    Do you think im gay because of what is happening? If i were to be gay, i would have to accept so i wont be sad about it

    Maybe im just repressed so i cant get erect propperly?

    Or maybe im just overthinking and im not getting aroused and im wasting time of my life thinking about this?

    Btw blowjobs are my number 1 fantasies/porn that arouses me at the momento, so i dont know if theres anything to do with it

    But thanks a lot guys, i hope i can find peace with myself :slight_smile:
     
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    Fantasies of women excite you and those of men do not. This sounds straight to me.

    I am panromantic, a persons birth assignment or gender presentation is not that important to me. What matters is if they treat me well and we have things in common. I don't really fantasize much about sex nor do I masturbate very often and I do not use porn at all (not that I have never viewed it, I just find watching other people have sex kind of gross). However when I do it is about someone I know, usually someone I am close to or have already been with and I can get aroused by people from any birth assignment (though more often women).

    I think that you are way overthinking this. If you are not aroused by someone or something then stop bothering to think about it. If you feel the need to masturbate go with the fantasies that work for you.

    Giving blowjobs or receiving blowjobs? From what you have said before I get the idea that since you say that you are not aroused by thoughts of men then it must be you getting them. Correct me if I am wrong though.
     
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    Hi quietpeace, tnx for all the support :slight_smile:

    I know that you wont be able to tell me what am i, but you sure help me a lot, so thank you so much for that, its good to have ppl to talk about it.

    And yes like you said, my number on fantasies and por are receiving a blowjob, i do get aroused imagining me giving oral to girls too, but its kinda hard bc i never did so i dont know how to fantasize about that, but i sure get horny to that too.

    Im currently trying to stop watching porn, im kind addict, and some part of this is due to my obsession i think, i started to masturbate more than 5 times a day, its a lot and im sad that i do it.

    And its hard to me bc i kind get froze when i see a dick, just to see a dick near a woman i kinda get aroused, and im always thinking about it, i think it just because the nature of porn right? But im little scared that its because i get aroused with penis, so i start to only see the penis itself and i go flacid so yeah

    I really think i have some kind of ocd playing a role here

    Im just too obsessive as i already said

    Bht yeah ill try to live on with my life, if someone else comes at this forum and would like to give your opinion, i would be verry happy.

    Tnx quietpeace, and sorry for my misleading regarding your sexuality, its just that im new here :slight_smile:

    Tnx for everything
     
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    I am no expert, not at all. My only suggestion to a young man age 18 (remember, I was age 18 a long time ago!) is to focus on the life goals you see for yourself (schools, careers, interests) and be open to the women and men who you meet along the way. If you listen with your heart, it will guide your mind when you meet the person who can be your soulmate, maybe only for a time or maybe for life. Just my perspective.
     
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    Hi old tacoma.

    Thx for the reply :slight_smile:

    Yeah youre totally right, thats actually what im doing, now i will start uni, and i really want to start happy and not worrying about things that, to be honest, doesnt matter.

    I want to make new friends, hang out with them and i know that one day i will find a girl that i will love :slight_smile:

    Im saying girl bc i dont have attractionbto men but, if it changes with time ill want to be happy too.

    Thx for the support, i appreciate it :slight_smile:
     
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    So guys just to answer a question that i have

    A lot of time when o fantasize, i do really think of the porn scenes that i watched

    And most of the times its like the guy and the girl having sex but focusing on the dick entering the vagina(sorry for being too much graphic)

    And i think its okay to imagine that, but in the back of my head theres a voice who keeps saying that this is gay, because im focusing on the dick enterung the vagina, like the movement of the dick,

    Because this is actually what i see during the porn, i look the dick going in and out of the vagina and i look the woman (all parts of her)

    And i do really think this is normal, but i wonder if you guys do the same, or maybe what i do is consider gay?

    Sorry if i offended someone, and sorry for being graphic

    And thx for all the help that youre giving me

    Im happy to be here and to be listened
     
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    Hey guys.

    Sorry for the spam, its just when i feel amxious and nervous i need to do something so im writing here.

    Im currently passing through a period of my life where im really kinda tired of all this.

    I already told in the first post but i have a gay friend, which i will start to study with in the uni

    All my problem surrounding my sexuality came from him.

    I started thinking that i could like him even thought i know i dont.

    But it started to get more difficult to just get throught this

    Like i tried so many times to famtasize with him or try to imagine me kissing him and i just cant its not good

    But for some reason i feel so nervous around him, like i try to imagine me having a normal conversation with him, which is something that will become normal on my daily life

    But i get so nervous, like a feeling in my chest, and i dont know hlw to describe it

    Its different from other times i liked someone.

    Why do i feel so nervous about him, i cant have a normal conversation with him, without thinking of him trying to kiss me, its hard to make eye contact with him, and i noticed it became hard to do it with all men i encounter

    Ive always been someone who couldnt make eye contact but i started to get nervous doing it.

    But i dont get nervous around guys though, im super chill and i love to spend time with my friends

    But now im scared, what will happen in the uni, what if he tries to kiss me?

    Or what if this feeling and nervous doesnt go away?

    I dont want to spend my entire uni worrying about this

    So what should i do guys?

    Do you know what this feeling is?

    I already tried to search on google about signs of love or passion or even a crush, but its not the same thing

    All the girls i liked in my life, the feeling its not the same

    And im kind of scared because i dont like him

    But i get nervous around him, and i dont know how it will go at the uni.

    I need some advice from you guys/girls who are in love with someone

    What do you feel when love someone, because i dont know anymore.

    I know that i dont like him but why i get nervous around him?
     
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    Nervous possibly because you’re still figuring it all out. I think ask yourself are you sexually/romantically into guys? Can you see any part of yourself with a guy? If you can and you’re more into women then it’s possible you’re bisexual. I understand the freaking out and the stress it causes you. If you just like women and not guys at all then you’re most likely straight and just overthinking it. I overthink all the time about, well everything. Your friend who you said is gay, maybe just mention that you’re not into him like that and as your friend he should respect that and not kiss you.
     
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    Hi, thx for the reply :slight_smile:

    I really want to be friend with him, hes such a cool guy and weve been really good friends for 3 years, but then we wnet different paths

    And i really know that i dont like him, i cant imagine me with hin and ice already tried, ita very different from what i feel when dreaming about girls.

    So trah i just want to be his friend without this fear that he could try to kiss me(everytime i forced me to fantasize about him, was him stelling a kiss from me) and disturbs me.

    I dont want to think that, i just want to enhoy my life with his friendship you know

    But i dont know why i feel nervous around him, like anxious and all, i feel nervous umconfortable, scared i dont know, and i dont want that

    And answering your question, i troed so many times to fantasize about men, and imagine my life with a guy and i dont feel nothing really

    I want girls in my life, but my head says i dont want that, and i keep getting intrusive thoughts about gay stuff, and intrusive feelings too(if this exists)

    But yeah thats all, tnx for the reply :slight_smile:
     
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    Hi guys, theres something i would like to ask you guys

    What do you feel when you like someone and how can you tell if you like someone?

    As i already said, theres a gay friend of mine with who km going to study with from now on

    And all my intrusive thoughts, fears came from him sadly ):

    And now im in a position where i feel uncomfortable and nervous around him or i think so

    I dont see him for a long time, a year maybe. So i just try to imagine me having a normal conversation with him

    And i get denied bc it always ends with him trying to kiss me and i feel uncomfortable and dont like, as i already said

    But when i can imagine me having a normal conversation, i feel so nervous and so pressured, like i can even imagine me looking into his eyes, because feels me with dread, i feel wrong you know? I feel so nervous and anxious and i dont know why, im so sad, and then my head starts saying that its because i like him

    The last girl i kind of liked was this year, i didnt fall for her but i sure felt something, i was really attracted to her, i even hang out with her and kissed her, and it was so good, i was scared at that time because i was used to get intrusive thoughts of my mind saying that i wouldnt loke to kiss a girl, so i was scared. It was a fast kiss but i really felt something, it felt so good, so right i really thought i could go through all this after that

    But after some time she told me she was sti in love with her ex, and i was sad and i moved on, it was so good to think about her, it was so cool to talk to her, i always thought of her, when i was doing something i was thinking of her, or if she would like if i did something for her, those things, it was really enjoyable.

    But now it went back, and everytime i talk to this friend i get this feeling

    But the thing is, these feeling doesnt feel like the good nervous, when you are nervous but you feel happy, or you feel nervous bc you think the person is pretty or you dont want to make mistakes in front of them

    This nervous is differente, i feel a horrible feeling in my chest, i dont like at all, i feel like he intimidates me, i cant be surr what it feels like, i just feel really nervous when i imaginr being around him, and i cant look into his eyes because it feels odd and horrible, i feel terrible.

    And i dont know why, hes going to be in my class and i dont know what to do

    What is this feeling? Why im so scared? Or maybe im in denial, but why it dont feel good at all, im scared about what will happen now, i need advice pls

    What do you feel when you like someone?

    How you teell you love somene?

    And why do i feel like this around him? Am i too scared about him?

    Tnx for all the support guys :slight_smile:
     
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    Hi guys, sorry for writing again ,but im feeling kinda weird so i just wanted to talk a little

    A friend of mine just show to me a pic of a dick, but we were just playing around and laughing

    I didnt get erect looking at it, i even tried to go to the bathroom to imagine the pic to see how would i react

    Bc i had those feelings that i say that i have, ppl say its groinal response but i dont know.

    Then after i went to dinner, and the feeling started to bother me so much that i couldnt think anything but the feeling and i started getting an erection bc of the feeling

    But i wasnt even think of that anymore

    Does this feeling come from my masturbation addiction?

    Bc when i have this feeling i cant think of anything else until i start to fantasize about girls

    And i try to supress the feeling but then i get erections

    Its not the first time that this happened after i saw a dick or a mans ass.

    But its always like that, i dont get aroused to the image or thought but the feeling bothers me until i think about woman or i get so nervous that i get erection

    So am i gay bc of that?

    Why im still even here?

    Sorry for bothering you guys really, i overthink too much

    I just want to have a happy life again

    Its killing me everytime

    Sorry for bother guys ):
     
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    What you are describing is consistent with an anxiety disorder or OCD. You need to seek help. This doesn't go away on it's own. Depending on the severity, you may be able to work on it with therapy, or it may require medication.

    The challenge is that, if it's OCD, it literally hijacks your brain so you can't think logically. And that's why you need to seek professional help. This is a miserable condition to live with. Please take action now.
     
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    It does seem to me that you overthink your reactions. Back when I was 18, I sometimes got an erection looking at a photo of a good looking guy, but I ALWAYS got an erection seeing a good looking guy in person. Most times I had clothes on, so the erection was hidden. But at the pool or the beach, it was a problem so I would jump in the water real quick! At the gym, it was definitely a problem for me, so I usually would shower at home.
    It also seems to me that your sexual response to female stimulation is much stronger than your sexual response to male stimulation. It seems your sexual response to males is a little on the negative side just based on what you write in your posts.
    It seems to me that your overthink part is your thinking that maybe the negative response you have to male stimulation (pictures or your uni friend) somehow means that you might actually be gay and just trying to deny it.
    My opinion, and that’s all it is, just my opinion — I don’t think you’re gay. You’re curious, like any young man age 18. But you don’t seem to have a groin level attraction to guys, your heart doesn’t get excited for your friend (instead you get nervous), and your mind is not fantasizing about how much you want your friend (or other guys) in a physical way.
    Just the opposite, you’re worried how to avoid it!
    Just how I see it from what you wrote.
     
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    It really sounds like you need to get your anxiety under control. High levels of anxiety will get in the way of thinking clearly and will keep you in constant confusion making it extremely difficult to figure anything out.


    Another thing you can do to help yourself is to stop using porn. Porn is made to be sexual arousing and will only cause more confusion. Not to mention the time wasted on watching so much of it. Most men are guilty of using porn and many of us use it way too much, but we would all benefit from cutting back on it and focusing more on real life attractions and relationships.
     
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    Hi chip, im really happy that youre here, i always read your comments.

    So im currently going to a psychiatrist and im taking medicines regarding anxiety, i used to get thoughts while i was sleeping and always woke up scared in the middle off the night with severe anxiety.

    But yeah im trying to look for a therapy but i dont want to do that now that were in pandemic time

    But i really want to do it, i think it would help, i probably have ocd and i know i have some real deep problems with porn.

    Today i watched one just to get off quickly but i had some trouble, i started watching so much hentai, and the while i was watching the girl took his pants off and the camera showed the guy having a erection, and i kinda had a erection too, not too much, but it scared me, i saw a lot of people saying its bc porn do this to ppl and we cant associate with real life

    So yeah that was just that im fine now :slight_smile:

    Hi, tnx for the reply :slight_smile:

    Yeah i understand you, i know im overthinking and im fighting with all i have to just stay cool.

    And yrah there were times when i felt this feeling in my penis while seeing man or dicks, but i never reached a full erection, ive always thought about things i did in past but i try not to put them as proof that im something, but i already tried so much and im tired.

    Like i aleready have thoughts about a guy in the street and thinking about him made me kinda grossed out but i tried, but its didficult to imagine something qhen havung obsession bc my head judt start thinking about woman, so i kinda had what i think its was a erection but i was super nervous, like so much, so i waited to go home and started masturbaring, it didnt work, and after that everytime i remembered this i could get aroused too, so i just wenr with my life

    And other times stuff like that happened, like 3 times, and always when i went to masturbate it just wont go you know, i cant.

    But yeah men never made me aroused i even saw friends of mine naked and all, i even kissed some friends too and nothing happend.

    And about my friend i really think im just overthinking, today a saw a pic of him, and i wasnt expected, i got so scared, like if i was watching a horror movie, it scared me bc i wasnt expected and my heart beated so fucking fast, i was feeling awful, it was the feeling when you got a jumpscare in a horror movie.

    Im sad about him ): hes a cool dude but i dont think i will be able to be his friend again, im scared abou what could happen ):

    Hi, tnx for the reply :slight_smile:

    Yeah i do have some real problems with anxiety, its difficult to do basic stuff, and this obsession is taking all my time, i cant think of anything else and i just want to be happy :slight_smile:

    Im stop using porn, i starting to masturbate only to thoughts, and the thoughts about girls are really getting me aroused, i thought i wouldnt be able to do that since i watch so much porn, but i can think of a girl while im masturbating, and it feels better without porn anyway.

    It feels more plesurable i think, but porn is good too, vut my obsession wont let me have my private moment ):

    Thanks guys for all the support, im really happy youre helping me, tnx for everything

    Im happy :slight_smile:
     
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    You may or may not be gay. For your own sanity, stop masturbating to thoughts too. What I mean is that you must not masturbate to check your sexual orientation. The more you check the less you will understand and the more you will fuel this probably obsessive trend.

    Seek a therapist and if this is taking a lot of time(hours) I'd say book a psychiatrist too. It's scary I know but if you try to fight this alone it will only get worse, speaking as someone who's having something similar I can tell you that not going to a psychiatrist and sticked with therapy and "well I am gonna figure out this on my own with masturbating on boys and then girls" just lowered my quality of life at its historic low. Last week I was happy because I could go out and study in a studying room[I mean I was happy bc I could go out of my house, can you see how this is not normal?], then I relapsed again and I spent this last few days in bed checking[that means waking up at 8 and doing tests up to 17, eat something and go back to checking]. So I hope you don't make my mistakes and you seek therapy as soon as possible.


    You can start online, I started online and got some benefits.
     
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