1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Can gay and straight men be true friends?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Joe2001, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. Joe2001

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    When you were straight? You either are or not.
     
  2. Limiteded

    Limiteded Guest


    I was about 10 years ago. Then thought I was bi for a while..,but now I feel only attracted to men. It’s been a long journey.
     
  3. Joe2001

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    Fair enough - everyone's journey is a bit different.
    Going back to what I was saying earlier today - How could I get a good straight friend? I'm inspired having watched that video.
     
  4. Chip

    Board Member Admin Team Advisor Full Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    16,560
    Likes Received:
    4,758
    Location:
    northern CA
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Friends and relationships are entirely different. Friendship, whether with gay or straight people, guys or girls, is cultivated around common areas of interest, similar values, and the like. Very often, the best way to cultivate friendships is to join clubs, teams or other activities. It can be sporting teams, book clubs, hiking clubs... pretty much whatever your interests are.
     
  5. Joe2001

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    I joined a school badminton club this year, but quit because it was full of younger kids (and also partially because I had exams). Also went to a photography club for a while in 2016 but it was full of old men (like 45-80 years old), and there was just way too much of a generation gap for anything to work there. As it stands, I'm not really sure what clubs to join, although I agree with your point that it is likely a good way to meet people.
     
  6. BiBarefeet

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2018
    Messages:
    327
    Likes Received:
    181
    Location:
    UK
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Questioning
    Out Status:
    A few people
    I think they can, but only if the gay guy is out to his straight friend, and that friend is fine with it...otherwise, as what happens with me, friends end up making homophobic jokes and I kind of laugh as they are funny but on the other hand I feel a little awkward and think to myself that I would probably lose their friendship if I came out to them...the automatic conclusion reached by many straight guys like this is that I would be sexually attracted to them, and they would then shun me a little on the basis that they cannot handle that if it were to happen (which it most definitely would not with me, as I'm only attracted to my friends in a platonic way and never find them attractive in any other way).
     
  7. Joe2001

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    The question is - Where are the right straight guys? I feel as if I have been hit with bad luck when it comes to friendships.
     
  8. Limiteded

    Limiteded Guest

    Ya I ha e many guy friends that I have no emotional or physical attraction to.
     
  9. Aussie792

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2013
    Messages:
    3,317
    Likes Received:
    62
    Location:
    Australia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    A fair number of straight friends of mine were very blokey with me and my ex-boyfriend. It never seemed like an issue that affected even fairly traditional masculine friendships.
     
  10. Joe2001

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    The blokey stuff makes me a bit uncomfortable, and I find their banter cringey. That's my prerogative though as several guys like it. It just feels as if all straight guys are like that, which is a shame as that video has motivated me to get over my fears and find good straight friends.
     
  11. hyphybum

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2018
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    California
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    No. A straight man would never consider a gay man as his right hand man.
     
  12. CrustedApp

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2018
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Miami
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Yeah. Why cant they?
     
  13. Aussie792

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2013
    Messages:
    3,317
    Likes Received:
    62
    Location:
    Australia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    There are certainly straight men who aren't very blokey. But there are definitely patterns of socialising a lot of straight guys have learnt, that, if you were to exclude those men as possible friends, would narrow down your pool of potential friends.

    I'm also just not convinced all masculine forms of socialisation necessarily include the banter you don't like (I'm actually not sure exactly what banter you're referring to).

    This is just not true of all straight men and encourages people not to bother with friendships they should be able to make.
     
  14. kibou97

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2016
    Messages:
    782
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Kentucky
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Im really curious why you think this.
     
  15. Limiteded

    Limiteded Guest

    When I was straight I had some gay friends that I could have worked together with no problem. Not sure why that other poster thinks that.
     
  16. kibou97

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2016
    Messages:
    782
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Kentucky
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    I mean, as I posted earlier in this thread, I have had a straight best friend of almost 8 years now and we're pretty much eachother's right hand man so im just curious to know why somebody would feel pretty much the exact opposite.
     
    #76 kibou97, May 7, 2018
    Last edited: May 7, 2018
  17. Limiteded

    Limiteded Guest

    Not really sure. Maybe they had a bad experience?
     
  18. Joe2001

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    Even if a straight guy was fine with a friend being gay, where I think that it could get awkward is when the gay friend gets a BF or married to a guy.
     
  19. Limiteded

    Limiteded Guest

    I don’t think that would bother me because I already know he’s gay. Having a boyfriend I could care less about lol
     
  20. Joe2001

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    I can't be friends with someone if they are of a completely different personality and/or have different interests to me. Most blokeish guys spend all of their weekends watching football and drinking beer, two things that you could not pay me to do.

    Not able to put my finger on exactly what I dislike about their banter, but it just feels very gang-like, quite loud, opinionated and they try to hard to act like alpha males.