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why are the t with the glb?

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by yaoicore, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. yaoicore

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    I get that. not all trans people want surgery. I have nothing against that. and don't have the money for it.
    trust me even if want it out I'm stuck in this group as long as I'm trans so I will always be group with GLB+ I'm sorry if it sound's like I'm crying.

    wait we benefit them please explain that too me?.

    is it ok to say that I feel that way inside the group?.

    thanks for replying.

    ---------- Post added 17th Jun 2015 at 12:47 PM ----------

    you made a good point. maybe that's why we are group I guess.

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    do they even care for the other tboys that is gay,pan,bi+ or the tgirls that are gay,pan,bi+ that is what I also want it to add to it is it because the glb+ still don't get what trans is about?



    ---------- Post added 17th Jun 2015 at 01:03 PM ----------

    yea for some reason I really hate talking about Political thing's. yea I see what you mean facebook have more genders you can choose from now.
     
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    I know more straight transpeople then glb+ transpeople in real life. to be honest the only reason I know that their are other trans people that are glb+ is because of this website.

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    woah hold down there I don't have a clue what stealth mean

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    I'm biological a woman and I'm straight so how does it work for a transman that's not attracted to the same biological sex? to me the only reason I'm here is because I'm trans that's the reason I'm even allow in the community in the first place.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    I understand this, but I'm sure the whole movement is not about sex. It's about acceptance. Then again I never went to a pride parade because I heard there would be people rubbing up against each other and hugging.
     
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    I don't feel like people accept me in the glb+ group. they probably see me as a crossdresser just like every one else do.
     
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    I have other trans friends that go to the pride parade, and I suppose they feel accepted. My other trans friends are gay too. I just don't attend Pride because I don't like crowds or celebrations.
     
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    I feel the same way. As well I have talked to several straight trans people who, before starting their transition, were called confused cross dressers because they were straight before they admitted they to themselves they were trans. I have read several accounts were members of the LGB community refused to believe someone was trans because they were not attracted to their same biological sex.
    The fact is tacking the T onto LGB has made people think it is a sexual orientation thing. I believe one of the reasons it took me so long to realize I was trans was because I had no attraction to girls. Every story I heard in till recently dealt with a trans man or woman who was LGB before transitioning.
    Now I understand standing together for equal rights
    I just wish there was a way to distance ourselves from the sexual orientation part of it
     
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    I agree with all of the previous comments, but I think the T is with the lgb is because we are outcast because of who we are, because our gender or sexuality doesn't fit the "norm". We share that, and many of us have accepted ourselves, and are more open to other sexualities than just straight. And gender and sexuality are related enough to be talked about in a similar context, I think.
     
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    never been. I've never even heard of this so called gay pride thing.
     
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    yes I agree. it also toke me along time to realize me being of trans for the same reason.yes cause people know that I was not gay before I came out as trans so I feel like glb+ will never take me serious. I fear it. maybe I should do a post for only g/l transpeople?

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    I get what you are trying to say but their are people that will always have a place in the glb+ even if the t was ever taken down. what a happen to the trans people that is not in to the same sex?
     
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    I'd say that the T is with the LGB because of our shared feelings and experiences of being outcasted by society and being told we're different and don't fit the norm, our groups have bonded through that experience and share a common cause together; even if each group has separate goals altogether.
     
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    Unless your trans women, them the extreme feminists of the lesbian world will bash ya real hard for trying to bring man ideas into the women world (I have seen people who do this to trans women. Kind of disturbing as well they bash trans men for not being able to handle being a female)
     
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    some trans people do fit the norms one that are not me.

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    the same with gay man
     
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    you cisgendered man will never get it you don't understand me at all I don't feel like we are all together at all your bi sexual u will always have a place in the glb+ unlike me well I feel this way ''hey dude have you check out that ftm gay porn'' yea bro I liked the part when the ftm was getting fuck in the front hole'' I don't want ever guy to think I'm like the ftm guys they watch on the creepy weird pornos you bi pan what ever you go by your all the same now I just feel group up in this group because people see me as a freak and a crossdresser we don't even share the same goals your cis and I'm trans all I really would like to know is what give you that idea
     
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    I've seen some disturbing things said by these type of folk to my trans women internet friends and others... pretty disturbing that people think that way really.

    No, what I was saying is that the LGB and T have been similarly shunned by society over most of history for being outside the so called "norm" in regards to sexuality and gender, those shared experiences bonded our groups together and gave them a general and common unity as well as a common goal of achieving equality; even if specific goals were different.
     
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    when I was young I was told that t was put with the rest of the group because trans came from l/g community but later on in life. I found out that all that was just stereotypes just by even talking about this just make me laugh we don't have the same goals nah every thing about us is not the same yes we want freedom of rights that's about it nothing else oh yeah not being ''normal''
     
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    yaoicore, we're in this together mostly by chance. If you feel a lack of trans visibility that is likely because we're trans and make up a much smaller percentage of the population than cis gay, bi pan etc. people.

    However, these same people often take our side and help us.

    I know it's easy to feel misunderstood. But we are here to help you.
    As I understand it, "Sexual Romantic and Orientation" and "Gender Identity and Expression" used to be one section.
    It was a good idea to split them, since these issues are entirely apart and should always be treated as seperate.
    You can ask us trans people for advice, and other LGB+ people can often offer moral support.
     
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    Also, just to show I do understand, from my perspective...

    Like, sometimes when I sit and romantisize about meeting the right guy and I get butterflies, he's the prince and I'm the princess and yadda yadda, I feel just like a normal straight girl wanting my own boy-meets-girl story.

    At those times I don't feel very connected to the LGBT+ community. But then I remember, oh shit, and I'm grateful that we can be in this together, even if it often makes me feel a bit misunderstood.
     
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    I feel the t is there so we get noticed. Do you know how often the rest of the sexualites that are LGB get ignored? It's because they aren't listed and because they aren't listed they aren't talked about. Same goes for nonbinary, bigender, polygender, genderqueer etc.
     
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    I don't want to be notice