Thoughts On Porn

George, I would invite you to try viewing some wholesome, home-made porn. I'm not volunteering mine or anything, but there is plenty of really high-class, actor-free, excellent viewing out there of people genuinely enjoying themselves.

I'm well aware that porn isn't for everyone of course, not everyone is visually titillated. But even biblically there is nothing morally wrong with porn, it's also easy to find morally non-objectionable porn no matter what your taste is (especially people touching themselves - it's easy to tell if they're ACTUALLY having fun doing it), and you might just enrich your life if you find some that you really like.

It's also really fun to watch porn with a significant other. If nothing else, it's great for ideas!

 

Some of you need to lighten up. Most of it is fake and actually a turn off. I mean, how many of you have sex like that? Thrashing about and making all kinds of weird noises. But some of it is pretty erotic.

 

I see porn as a lesson , its really helpful to learn some stuff , i dont think its wrong to see , it wrong to be into it!

 

I'm against porn because it encourages the objectification of women and in general encourages degradation and devaluation of the people involved.

 

another one!

I kinda wish it weren't against policy to post some, just for counter-examples.

Though again, i should point out, for the most part I agree with the above quoted statement. For the most part. Some porn is empowering and the opposite of degrading.

 

Of course it's not. They didn't have videos or photographs back then. It does, however mention plenty about sex outside of marriage, and just sexual promiscuity in general.

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And how does that make porn immoral, in biblical terms?

That's just my point, it's outside the scope of the bible. Clergy will have you believe that it isn't, but that's poppycock.

 

I am not coming from any religious stand view or anything .. but I also hate porn .. all of it .. I will be lying if I said I never watched porn .. but in the end I find it totally disgusting .. sex shouldn't be depicted like that .. females always appear in a disgusting submissive way as some sort of tools .. and males always appear as monstrous hooligans who came out of a cave screaming out of sexual libido and use the tools they find -aka females- to appease their desires .. as for lesbian porn .. its more like "hey guys you like girls ? here you go HOOT GURL ON GURL AKSHEN .. ooooh yeah .. what ? did you think that women are humans .. pfffft .. yeah right .. and as for gay porn DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED :tantrum: ...

 

never seen dominatrix porn, i take it? =P

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I will not be chided for anything i have posted in this thread, thank you very much. If i can't talk about the bible because it will offend people who read it, within the context of the subject at hand, after they explicitly said that their faith is the reason they don't like something, in order to debunk the basis of their objection and not to criticise their faith itself (which wouldn't even be ad hominem anyway), then welcome to politically correct insanity.

So, no. I wasn't disrespectful, attacking, or rude and i won't be shushed by you or any other hypersensitive person.

 

Silk frog's post is, IMO, the best post in this thread.

Why? Because it touches on some of the details and the inner workings of the porn industry, the details that aren't so pretty and arousing when you look deeper.

I used to be indifferent about porn a few years ago, and I didn't really care whether someone watched it regularly or not -- it's there body, their fantasies, and so why should my opinion be more important than theirs? But with each passing year as I've read more articles and have researched more information about the practices in the porn industry, I have to admit that my eyes have been opened a little more and that I now watch much less porn.

The way that drug use is often tied so closely to porn and how it's rampant in the industry, especially among women, is a telling sign. Also the amount of abuse (which does happen) and its effects is not good. The mental effects, but especially the physical effects that the industry produces is nauseating at times. And of course, the many diseases that several people contract/spread, often over and over and over again. Again, these are things that can be backed up by studies and personal experiences by several ex-porn stars that can easily be looked up, even some by porn stars who still currently work in the industry. I know many people will deny it and say these things aren't that common, but really, if you look at several of the porn videos on the internet nowadays? Be honest with yourself. Just going by the way some of these men and women look and some of the things they're doing, it's not difficult to see how drug abuse and very high numbers of diseases would be so involved with this industry. Yes, people who do porn professionally have lives outside of porn, but I bet those lives are still tied in some way to what they do. I imagine it's not easy for every person to just go home and pretend like everything's fine after they just got anal screwed by two guys while sucking another two guys' c*cks while getting ejaculated on, among other things. Especially if you despised all of those guys.

I'm trying to reduce watching porn to as little as I can. I agree that those in the porn industry are making their own choices (or so most of us like to believe, as I won't even get into the instances where I've heard otherwise), and I support their freedom to do what they want with their bodies. But knowing some of the things I know now, I simply can't watch porn with a totally sound mind. And it sucks, because there's nothing I love more than watching people share a hot intimate moment together, especially when it seems real. But I don't want to support any of the harm or the unsafe practices that I'm sure the pornography industry and the people associated with it are involved in.

And others may think not, but I do believe that by watching it, you are indirectly supporting it whether you intentionally mean to or not (unless you're watching porn by one of the few 'not so bad' companies). The industry doesn't look at why people view videos, they just ultimately look at the number of views and if it's a large enough number, they take it as a sign that that's what the audience wants and it looks to produce more of it.

Even if I slip up sometimes, I think the only way I can feel alright watching porn now is if it's done by a very professional company that goes out of its way to assure the viewers that the people involved have rights and are being treated right. And sometimes it seems like even that's a lot to ask for... It's so glorified too that it's hard to get away from it. It would be nice if people actually thought about what they're watching though, especially the extreme stuff. Look beyond the sexual fantasy occasionally, and realize that these are real people. I just don't think satisfying myself sexually in a few minutes is really worth the risk of another person's well-being.

 

This is more a problem w/ the porn industry than porn itself, but basically i agree w/ this.

 

I like it and don't see anything wrong with it. Often times though I enjoy getting off to PG-13 pictures, like guys with their shirts off or in their underwear.

 

NNNNNNNNOPE .. and the name makes me even happier I never had to :lol: ...

And how the hell did you win 30 torments :eek: ...

 

I think porn has ruined a lot of relationships or stopped them from ever starting. I know some people who all they do is watch porn instead of interacting with a real person. So sad. I also think it makes people feel inadequate and afraid to have a real relationship because they are not some ripped guy hung like a horse or a stick thin woman with fake boobs. Porn can never wrap it's arms around you and tell you it's okay.

Anyway I say no to porn and yes to real relationships.

 

For me, it's far too fake and just really poorly done. (I'm not sure how paid-for-porn is, i'm sure it's better, but i'm not wasting my money on porn.) The girls don't seem into it and most of them aren't even gay/bi and it's just, no.
Also I don't really see anything wrong with porn, the people doing it want to do it.

 

That is one claim you can't make with any kind of certainty and, quite frankly, is very probably wrong.
Your Christian values are part of who you are and what you believe.
If you didn't have them, you wouldn't be who you are now and, in with that, you cannot claim to know the person you would be.


For me, as long as any participants in the porn have given full consent to all and any acts they do/are involved in AND they have given full acknowledged permission of the distribution of the porn(as well as being compensated), then I have absolutely no problem with porn.

People need to differentiate between sex and making love.
Making love with the person you love is a joyous wonderful thing, and something I believe can only happen between two(or more) people that are in love, but sex, well, any number of people doing any number of acts with each other for whatever reason they feel justifies it to themselves.

Personally, I'm a fan of the more comical 70's/80's stuff with cheesy storylines and hammy acting OR stuff that is more amateurish and a bit more playful.


For the person above that suggested the crime comparison(Silkfrog, I believe) and that it's on late night TV out of the reach of youngsters(/impressionable people), well, not really. It's available at all times through the same portal that internet porn is available.
I'm not using that to advocate the argument(that I believe to be a nonsense, by the way) that porn producers need to self-regulate greater. At the end of the day, they're making porn. It's that simple.

If you don't like porn, if you don't want to be involved in porn, if you don't want your children to watch porn, there are things you can do, but that should be down to you and you alone, you shouldn't force those beliefs on to anyone else and using words like "immoral" and "disgusting" to describe what consenting adults legally do which has no actual provable harming consequences(outside of silly people attempting(and generally failing) to replicate what they've seen performed and making asses of themselves) on people, in my humblest of opinions, does not help anyone and isn't something I believe has any place in a reasoned discussion or, to a larger extent, a civilised community/society.

 

Well I watched (only gay/lesbian) porn in the past because I was horny, lonely, and confused about my sexuality. (I suppose watching only gay/lesbian porn should have tipped me off... but I was a bit slow in the learning process...) It helped me realize I like girls, but I didn't like that the ladies were always faking it... THATS a turn off.

NOW, I'm not so confused, and I don't watch it anymore. It's a personal choice of mine, and one I believe in for me because of my faith also. Also, porn can be very degrading to the parties involved, and relationships, but if people consent to it, that's their perogative. Whatever stitches your britches. Especially us lonely singles out there. :lol:

I'm a Christian too, but pretty much everything is a sin... sooooo... I kinda gave up on not being a hypocrite long ago. :icon_bigg I think if you're against it, you shouldn't watch it! If you aren't, well we have hormones and sometimes no outlet for them, and some choose porn for that.

 

I don't fully agree with this. For instance 'don't kill other humans' is a Christian value, but that does not mean it isn't a moral value for other people (both religious and atheists) too.

Personally I'm not sure what to think about porn :/