1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Is it right to defend gay people while still being in the closet?

Discussion in 'For Parents and Family Members of LGBT People' started by KyleD, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. Austin

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2008
    Messages:
    3,172
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    No you're a terrible hypocrite!!!

    jk... of course its fine... seriously.
     
  2. Kasey

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2013
    Messages:
    6,385
    Likes Received:
    162
    Location:
    The Commonwealth of Massachusetts
    Gender:
    Female (trans*)
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Even if you don't want to come out, what is wrong with being an ally of any kind?
     
  3. wolfxinxchains

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2014
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    New York, USA
    I don't see why it would be wrong, it could maybe even help you figure out to come out to if and when you decide to
     
  4. resu

    Advisor Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    4,968
    Likes Received:
    395
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    I think defending others is a good way to build up your own courage and overcome fear of being outed. If someone asks if you're gay, you should say it doesn't matter what your orientation is. Homophobia is something that has to be learned, and so it can only be unlearned if people speak up against it.
     
  5. apostrophied

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2013
    Messages:
    969
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    No, it's absolutely unacceptable, you should be a raging homophobe! :wink: Just kidding, why would it be wrong? If you don't want to be outed, just don't bring it up all the time. But if the topic comes up and you have something to say about it, I don't see why you shouldn't say something.
     
  6. Kaabool

    Kaabool Guest

    My dad used to say gays should be taken to an island, and then since they don't breed they'll disappear. Beats forced extermination I guess xD.

    Well, I do think that you have to be ready that if you do defend gay people, most will question wither you are gay your self. And if you are not ready to say yes I am, and say no you are not (makes your closet more depressing), then come out later, it will be a bit awkward I guess. If you are not ready to take the heat of people thinking you are gay, I'd say don't make much of a fuss about it - yet.
     
    #26 Kaabool, Mar 23, 2014
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 23, 2014
  7. KyleD

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    1,094
    Likes Received:
    25
    Location:
    Spain
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Family only
    I get that it's the right and courageous thing to do but if anyone asks me if I am gay and I say no because I am not ready to come out yet then I will feel terrible.
     
  8. Kaabool

    Kaabool Guest

    I personally agree, so try to build up courage first to be open about being gay, because only then I think will you be confident in defending being gay. If you say nothings wrong with it but you deny being gay, there is a sense of shame in it as far as I personally feel about that (Which is ok, but as you said you'll feel terrible).

    And people say all kind of things about things they have no visible tangible realization of, all my friends and family changed quiet a lot about how they discuss gayness ever since I came out...in-front of me anyways....:wink:. Some even apologized for the hurtful stuff they might have said, some did stop socializing with me though..so be prepared! Good luck.
     
    #28 Kaabool, Mar 24, 2014
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 24, 2014
  9. GreyPundit

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Southern Appalachia, US.
    Gender:
    Male
    Out Status:
    Not out at all
    Seriously. The defense of any subset of humanity is the defense of humanity; it's the subsets that must be disposed of.
     
  10. BelleFromHell

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2014
    Messages:
    1,893
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Charleston, SC
    I didn't even fully acknowledge that I was a lesbian until I was 16 and I started defending LGBTQ rights LONG before then.
     
  11. Theron

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2014
    Messages:
    405
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    USA
    Gender:
    Male
    If you feel safer identifying as an ally instead of coming out for now, then do what you feel is best for your health and safety.