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Can we talk about weed?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Love4Ever, Nov 17, 2018.

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What are your thoughts on weed?

  1. I smoke weed and think it should be legal

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  2. I don't smoke weed but it should be legal because I don't care if others do

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  3. I don't smoke weed and don't agree with legalizing it

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  1. Love4Ever

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    Admittedly, I haven't either. I have attempted to but I don't think I did it right. I have never smoked anything before so I am pretty sure I didn't do much of anything because I felt nothing. But I want to try it again at some point. Of course I was so tired when I did it I am not sure if the tiredness was because I was tired or if it actually had a calming effect? I don't really have a point of reference so not sure what I was feeling. I do remember feeling less anxious though? I don't know. Placebo is a real thing for me so it could have been induced by me thinking I had actually had some pot lol.
     
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  2. fadedstar

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    keep abortion legal.
    legalise all drug use among adults (outside of pregnancy.)
    legalise all sexual practices between consenting adults in private settings.
    legalise assisted suicide.

    Your body is not a bargaining chip. It's shocking to see that people are still in varying degrees of slumber when it comes to their own rights. It doesn't belong to a religious institution, a nation, a political system or any persons other than yourself. It's yours.
     
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    Isn't that just the definition of a memory?
     
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  4. Love4Ever

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    I think maybe he means alter your brain in a way that causes it to not be capable of things it was once capable of. So something degenerative like Alzheimer's or dementia.
     
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    This would harm society badly. There are too many drugs with too many severe consequences. Sure if people want to take a drug that harms themselves no big deal, but lots of drugs cause them to harm other people too. Do you really want a hundred thousand new heroin and cocaine addicts robbing stores for drug money to get their fix? Or having paranoid breakdowns in public places where they think everyone around them is coming to murder them so they shoot everyone they see? That's what would happen if all drugs were legal and easily accessible.
     
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    No. A memory is just a stored thought, your actual brain is still biologically and chemically the same. When you take LSD it changes the actual biological/chemical functioning of your brain forever. Your hormone levels could change, the electrical impulses could change etc.
     
  7. fadedstar

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    To say that is catasrophising would be putting it mildly. It's as ridiculous as saying everyone will become gay and stop breeding if being gay is accepted.

    The kinds of people who are attracted to those types of substances more often than not have pre-existing issues rooted in childhood trauma.

    Whether it is a net positive or a net negative for society is irrelevant as far as the issue of individuals being able to do with their own body is concerned.
     
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    I will have you know that I CHEW my weed.

    Also wow some gays are astonishingly regressive.
     
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    Well my experience with LSD is that I was very cautious, I was microdosing before the word was popular. (And that's what my friends called it too: dude, you can't be feeling any effects from that microdose.) It's like cleaning your windshield. My advice is to take 1/4 of whatever somebody tells you is a "hit".

    But I also have to agree with @Destin that complete libertarianism would be bad. I would probably get hooked on opiates, they're just too strong for most people. It's good that I can't just roll down to the CVS and get some.
     
  10. fadedstar

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    with their own body as they please*
     
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    But do you spit?
     
  12. fadedstar

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    100% bodily autonomy, would solve so many issues in one fowl swoop.
    Quite frankly I don't think anyone should be the arbiter of what people do with their own body. Debates like this seem redundant in the face of bodily autonomy.
     
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    The problem is that your body exists in and impinges on the environment, i.e. other people and their bodies.
     
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    No, it's like estradiol. You're supposed to swallow.

    Also, this thread is about the the weeds, not the fentanyls.
     
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    What do you mean by that exactly? Someone might not be particularly personable or pleasant while under the influence. I'm sorry but that doesn't justify you telling people what they can do with their own bodies. If you don't like someone while they're on drugs then don't spend time with them or move away from them.

    And if someone hits someone else whilst high they are still legally responsible for their actions like they would be if they were drunk (same thing.)
     
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    Ah, I was being facetious but I liked the way you put it, making sound like a chaw of gum or tobacco. Yes, you are supposed to swallow. And rumor has it that the stomach acids do some more decarboxylating on the THC.
     
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    What I mean is that actions that start out as purely autonomous decisions that affect only my body, have effects that spread out into the universe and can't be recalled. You can say it's OK for Joe Schmo to use/abuse opiates, but what if he gets into a car and runs over puppies?

    I'm reminded of the (ironic) Onion headline "Libertarian Grudgingly Calls Fire Department". Whether we like it or not, we are intimately and intricaly connected to everything else.
     
  18. fadedstar

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    I just don't see that as a valid reason to take away a human right that should have been there right from the very beginning. Anything can have unintended consequences. Literally anything.
     
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    Yeah, I agree. That's the weak point in my argument. You found it. @#$@!
     
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    The best highs, you know, are worth waiting for. Whether it's two hours for an edible, or two weeks for estradiol, I'm all about delaying gratification.