1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

What are you thinking?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Mirko, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. FemWired

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2024
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    21
    Location:
    EU
    Gender:
    Female (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    A few people
    I really feel you about family problems. Being around my mother is becoming even worse for my mental health than it was before, but I can't do anything about it. The transphobic and homophobic remarks (not directed at me) I've overheard her say in the past hurt a lot.
     
  2. Rayland

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Location:
    Estonia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Hugs.

    They misgender me daily, but I decided to try and not let it get to me, if I can. In many things my parents are ignorant and my dad thinks you can cure all mental issues and physical issues with drinking tea and eating vitamins, what I already do anyway.

    In the above case I just get extremely upset if my plans get changed in last minute. My heart was set on this is how my day is going to play out, but there were an exeption to it now. I did everything I needed. It's just this one little thing. I hate changes in my plans.
     
  3. mnguy

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2006
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    455
    Location:
    Mountain hermitage
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    I'm sorry and don't understand how people who should love us, keep hurting us after we told them what we need. Does your language have gendered words so it's harder to avoid?
     
  4. Rayland

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Location:
    Estonia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Thanks. Not really. We use they/them and you. He/him and She/her don't exist in my language. They call me woman, daughter and sister a lot. It's hard to break people's habits, especially since I do look like a female.
     
  5. Rayland

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Location:
    Estonia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    I feel like next week I just want to spend my time at a library. I have some work piled and also in library you can find a lot of niche things, that you can't find information about online. This week is busy for me, since it's uni week.
     
  6. HM03

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,629
    Likes Received:
    508
    Location:
    Pergatory
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Call My Name - AVAION

    I'm gettin' numb when you call my name
    It's hittin' hard like a punch in my fac
     
  7. HM03

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,629
    Likes Received:
    508
    Location:
    Pergatory
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    What am I thinking?

    That I need to either go to bed or pay attention to which thread I'm clicking lol
     
  8. BiCavalier

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2024
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    30
    Location:
    Ohio
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    A few people
    I am thinking about my upcoming appointment with my therapist in an hour. I did some journaling with some prompts she provided and I bared my soul and shared it with her. She has not had an opportunity to respond yet, so I am anxious with much anxiety. I share much of my origins of my attractions to men as well as my current state. I have not ever shared some of those most intimate thoughts with anyone. I am a little scared TBH.
     
  9. Rayland

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Location:
    Estonia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Hugs your way. Well done. Therapists are professionals, so don't be scared. Please do let us know how it goes, if you wish.
     
  10. BiCavalier

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2024
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    30
    Location:
    Ohio
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    A few people
    So sweet of you to respond with a reassuring note,:purple_heart:

    The appointment went well. She was so supportive and validating! This was our 4th session and she has really doubled down on her first great impression. After several false starts, I think that I have found a therapist that I am comfortable with and the I can open up and trust. I AM SO HAPPY ABOUT THAT! I did not know what to expect going into my first session. I did choose her partly because she identified as gay or LGBT (don't remember what was on her profile), but I really did not know what to expect. There is much of the community that I do not relate.

    I now feel confident enough to share on a much deeper level face to face. That is such a great feeling!
     
  11. Rayland

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Location:
    Estonia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    This is wonderful to hear. Having a suitable therapist makes a world of difference. I've found therapy to be very helpful.
     
  12. BiCavalier

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2024
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    30
    Location:
    Ohio
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    A few people
    Feeling a bit conflicted today. I set a goal to come out to 3 more people this year. It was an arbitrary thing that I thought at the time was important to me and my journey. Now I am not sure. I got really close to telling somebody a couple weeks ago, but I froze up. At first, I thought that I was just being a coward. Now I am not sure. Maybe this is something that I really don't need and should not force. Of course, I may just be overthinking and rationalizing my fears. Ugh! I am such an over-thinker! Hahahaha!
     
  13. Rayland

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Location:
    Estonia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    You come out at your own time. It took me a few years to come out. It's never easy, but you know when it's the right time. :slight_smile:
     
  14. tallslenderguy

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2024
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    106
    Location:
    Albany Oregon
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    i don't think you are "overthinking" or "rationalizing" your fears (this from a hyper analytical guy lol).
    i think terms like "homophobia" can become cliche and end up losing some of there impact of meaning. But like a tree planted in our psyche, it can have many roots and those roots can grow and affect our sidewalk, driveway and foundation of our house. We often observe the cracks or the crooked wall, and don't see the cause.
    Thinking about the name of this site: "Empty Closets." As you note, coming out of the closet is not a one time event. In a heteronormative world, it's a lifelong process. Also, coming out does not necessarily reveal all the effects having lived in a closet have had on us.
    "Fear" is a biological emotional response, often to real threats. i think it makes sense to think and rationalize when we experience it. The root word in "rationalize" is "rational." Though the word "rationalize" is often used pejoratively, it can be a good thing.

    i suspect we are similar in that neither of us comes across to people as "gay." i've lost count of the number of times i've had to come out, most often, it seems, when a woman is asking me out on a date lol.

    One of my first experiences coming out to someone i didn't know was at a book store (no, not one of those). i bought a gay novel and when i took it up to the counter, i thought the cashier was pretty cute, so i flirted. i turned the book over and showed him the picture of the author and explained i had no idea what the book was about, but i'd chosen it because i thought the author was hot looking. The cashier got an awkward smile on his face and agreed.

    i agree with your thought that you "really don't need and should not force." Forcing stuff often breaks stuff, the resistance we meet has cause. i think it's best to find the cause of resistance vs forcing through it. <3
     
  15. quebec

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2014
    Messages:
    4,214
    Likes Received:
    2,386
    Location:
    U.S.
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    BiCavalier.....I've gotten to the place where I ask myself "does this person have a need to know?". Basically, is there a good reason why I should tell them about my sexuality.
    .....David :gay_pride_flag:
     
  16. Carla01

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2024
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    18
    Location:
    South Africa Centurion
    Gender:
    Female (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Out Status:
    Family only
    Yesterday was my special day and as always it suck. I am looking forward to come out to all of the family members to be myself.

    Had to be a person that hand out presents to family and take a family member to a doctor and pay the bills for it yes live such's sometime

    Apologies for the oversharing and if it does not find you good
     
  17. Rayland

    Moderator Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    Location:
    Estonia
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Hugs. You will get there one day and no worries you're not oversharing.
     
  18. BiCavalier

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2024
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    30
    Location:
    Ohio
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    A few people
    That's where I am right now. Is it just my vanity?
     
  19. BiCavalier

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2024
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    30
    Location:
    Ohio
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    A few people
    Really loving the EC community this week! Happy, happy, love, love! Very grateful to you all!
     
  20. Canterpiece

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2015
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    108
    Location:
    England
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    I wonder if the "I'm breezy" mood option is supposed to be sarcastic. Imo it looks about ready to scream but it's holding it in. Probably. I've never heard anyone say breezy in a sincere way before.
     
    #11040 Canterpiece, Apr 29, 2024 at 8:32 AM
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2024 at 8:33 AM