McCain endorses marriage ban!

Straight cut.

 

I think I may have said this before, but I'm completely serious about this. If McCain becomes president, I am going to either Australia or Canada. I just would be... completely, utterly devistated if McCain became the next president. I know that little middle school kids say things like I'm going to another country if so and so becomes president, but I really honestly feel that way.

I can't stand the fact that I live in a country that absolutely hates a segment of its population. And it's one thing to just hate them, but completely another thing when they try (and do) write their hate into our laws. WHY CAN THEY GET AWAY WITH THAT?!?!?!

For real, let's just hope that for the sanity and safety of all the gay people in America that John McCain doesn't become president.

 

The bottom line is you have to excercise your right to vote! If you are 18, you need to get registered right now so that you can vote in November. It is vitally important. Not only will the lives of GLBT Americans be at risk, McCain isn't bound to end the war anytime soon. He has voted with Bush on almost every issue. It's scary!

 

Living in Georgia, I can see why you feel the way you do. Its not that way everywhere though. There are several states who are much further ahead in this civil rights battle. I know Canada is way ahead of us but we will get there!

 

Mhm i just registered specifically so i could vote in November, and i was actually considering maybe the possiblity of voting Mccain (I'm not crazy about Obama either) but because of this crap i definitely know where im placing my check mark of truth

 

Eh. McCain still gets my vote. Though I wish Huckabee would have gotten the nomination. For the general population of US, McCain is way better then Obama. It looks like I'm alone in this corner.

 

Nope, I'm with you. I'll most likely vote for McCain. I wish there were different candidates for both sides but I suppose McCain will have to do

 

Yea I edited it a bit after you posted. I wish Huckabee was the nom. Huckabee creates hope. God Bless Em! :lol:

 

I'm not even Republican, but I would have liked to see Huckabee on the ballot instead of McCain. He looks like a Junebug, but hey, at least he has a sense of humor! (reference to Saturday Night Live)
Plus, no sooner did Obama become the presumptive nominee than did McCain start in on the mudslinging (I apologize for my bad grammar). He just started saying things with this idiotic smile on his face and saying, "That's not change we can believe in...." about 6 or 7 times.
I would have gone Huckabee all the way. Poor guy stayed in 'til the bitter end.
Still going for Obama, though. At least he doesn't look like an animal immediately.

 

This is going to be a very interesting election although I am not in America. Suppose that they both keep to their manifestos, this election would determine if America becomes more capitalist or more socialist. We shall see....

 

Are you guys kidding? Huckabee?!?!?!!??!?

The man who wants to change the Constitution to match the Bible?

The man who said 'I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural and sinful lifestyle.'

If you care about you're rights at all, he is one of the last people you should ever want to see as President.

 

Seeing how this nation was created on a foundation of religion and beliefs.. I don't really see a huge problem with it. It is not like he would have been able to change it anyways. Seriously.

What do you expect someone who used to be a Pastor to say? Just because that is how he feels doesn't mean he is going to persecute or start a genocide. So I really don't see relevance. Ask an oil tycoon what he thinks about alternative fuel enthusiasts, ask a butcher what he thinks about vegans. I'm sure they would say something along those lines as well.

I guess one could argue since he feels thing way about the GLBT culture, he would only try to hinder it. Eh, I have a little more faith in the man, full of reforms, and a serious concern for the US.

 

Actually, T.Boone Pickens (a man who has made billions and billions...and more billions with oil) has recently started a series of adds promoting alternative fuel....just sayin'


Anyways, I guess I just can't wrap my head around why you would support Huckabee....not that it matters, since he isn't the nominee....

 

I guess he feels like he has raped the economy enough (billions you say) and feels like he has enough money. That's one oil tycoon with a soul... now where are the rest?!? Just saying.

Huckabee>McCain is why I started talking. It is a shame that he isn't the nominee. So I guess there is no more to say except... McCain 08'. Huckabee 12'.

 

Persecute? Do you consider persecuting denying basic human rights to GLBT Americans? I do!

 

You're kidding, right? The fact that he wanted to is problem enough. We don't live 2000 years ago. Plus, I wish people in the US would get over the fallacy that the US is a "Christian nation." While most of the people in it when it was founded might have been Christians over 200 years ago, there is no state religion (on purpose, in fact one of the reasons people came to the US was to avoid religious persecution in England, which did have an officially sanctioned state religion) and the America of today is a whole slew of different faiths, so on top of the insanity of wanting to make the US Constitution into a carbon copy of some archaic doctrine from many, many centuries ago, what about the Jews in the US? The Muslims? The Buddhists?

And hello, separation of church and state? Remember that purportedly cherished US value? Saying the US was created on a "foundation of religion and beliefs" is twisting and simplifying the truth of things just a tiny little bit.

I expect someone who is running for president of a massively diverse country to have maybe done some critical thinking about the nasty homophobic lies people have used the Bible to "back up" and come to the conclusion that while he might not understand homosexuality or find it particularly thrilling, perhaps a live and let live approach might be more, oh, evolved?

So you don't think it might be a problem that the person leading your country was someone who is deeply convinced that homosexuality (and therefore homosexuals) is aberrant? You honestly don't think that would affect his administration's policies towards, oh, healthcare funding, non-discrimination laws, education (whether gay people should be mentioned as if they're actually human beings like the rest of the population, rather than subhuman lepers), etc. etc. etc.? We're not talking about some minor bureaucratic post--this is the US PRESIDENCY, arguably the most powerful position in the world! He doesn't have to even actively persecute anybody... he can just avoid stopping the persecution that's already going on. Kinda like Reagan didn't have to attack gay people trying to cope with HIV and AIDS in the 80s... he and his administration just didn't do anything to help.

And you think having a President with deeply-held homophobic religiously-based convictions that homosexuals are engaged in an "unnatural lifestyle" won't really have any kind of negative effect on gay people in the US (and perhaps the world)? That's not faith: that's lunacy.

 

Yes, but what I'm saying, and what I think several other people are saying, is that however much you might agree with, oh, say Republican economic policy or healthcare policy or whatever, how can anyone possibly ignore the fact that a big chunk of them want us to be permanently 2nd class citizens (at best) and locked up or worse (at worst)? THAT is what I do not understand... you would think just out of vested self-interest people would be like, "Oh... yeah maybe it's not a good idea to vote for someone who thinks it's fine for me to lose my job because I like guys and not girls" or "Oh... yeah maybe it's not a good idea to vote for someone who thinks I don't deserve any kind of sex ed that might save my life?" or "Oh... yeah maybe I shouldn't vote for someone who is going to appoint judges who think the 'homosexual panic' defence is good sound law."