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Younger brother is probably gay?

Discussion in 'For Parents and Family Members of LGBT People' started by softbutch5765, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. softbutch5765

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    I have a younger brother who is 14 years old, turning 15 this year.

    I knew he was an effeminate guy ever since he was a kid. I was the most dominating among three siblings. He was the most submissive. He doesn't have any particular interests in makeup or cross-dressing so I had doubts if he's gay or not. But of course, that's not enough markers to tell if he's straight/gay. He always hang around younger male kids around 8 or 10 years old or this particular guy cousin (16 y.o.) who is effeminate as well (and was caught wearing makeup once). He rarely have any female friends nor talk about one. And some girls would say hi to him, but he's snobbish to them and he seems more comfortable with guys.

    The other night, I discovered from my grandmother that he didn't come home last night and slept in a friend's home for two days. This bothered me, as he was supposed to come back that night, since he promised to. And so I asked if his friend is a guy or a girl, and it was a guy. Usually, there's no problem with two guys hanging out or sleeping together... if they're straight. But then, I think my brother's gay! I'm a lesbian and my gaydar is working on him.

    Last month, I borrowed his spare phone to search something over the internet. And my careless brother didn't erase his browsing history. I was surprised to see pornographic images the moment I opened up the browser. All naked men.

    I don't know how to approach him about this. Sleeping in a guy's home is a big NO for me, because I think he's too young to explore sexual stuff just yet. My grandparents, parents, other relative are all like... "what's the matter with that?" about it. But of course, being a gay sister I know what's going on! I can't get to convince my relatives to restrict him from sleeping in a guy's house without giving away his sexual orientation.

    What do I do? Am I just being a paranoid big sis?
     
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    I know you want to talk to him about this because I know you're concerned, but it may be best not to confront him about it. It might make him extremely uncomfortable, and I'm sure that's the last thing you want. Let him come out to you (if he is gay, that is). And I know you're worried about him doing sexual things but he could've just been spending the night at a friends house like any other person would. Nothing sexual about it. Of course, if you feel that you must talk to him then go ahead and do it. I'm just giving you my opinion.
    You're a good sister for caring so much, by the way.
     
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    I think you should respect his privacy a bit more, what he does with his friends, what kind of porn he looks at etc seriously is none of your business.
    I also think your analysis of his childhood behaviours relies waaaay too heavily on stereotypes, seriously as a lesbian you should know better.
    Sorry for being so negative, but the whole tone of your post just bothered me somehow.
    Maybe it's cause I'm European, but I think he's at a pretty normal age to explore his sexuality - nothing wrong with it.
    So yeah my advice is: stop being so invasive and wait till he feels like he's ready to come out, if at all.
     
  4. softbutch5765

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    Yeah, I was considering that too. I guess I was just getting paranoid, because I can't confront him about it. But when I think about my sister, sleeping in her guy friend's house... I realized there's no difference when my brother is sleeping in his guy friend's house and I should be equally alarmed. So yeah.

    I also stated in my post that the porn thing was accidental. I was SURPRISED to see the images the moment I opened the browser. Heck, I didn't want to look in naked men pictures for christs sake. He was careless for not clearing his browser history, because the phone was set to automatically show the last page visited.

    Yea, maybe it's because of culture difference. But we live in a conservative region, so it's quite complicated. Sex only after marriage is still quite the norm here. :/ I was just shuffling some memories and trying to connect the dots.

    I also said...

    Maybe I didn't write it in a more organized way. But really, I wasn't judging or analyzing my brother... not until I accidentally saw his porn.
     
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    That's a difficult question.

    I guess the only thing you can really do, that doesn't involve outing him or downright confronting him, would be to tell him he can talk to you about anything and then have a talk about safe sex with him.

    That's a pretty big hint there, plus you'll at least know he knows about safe sex.
     
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    From what you're saying, I'd agree there are a lot of indicators he may be gay.

    As for the rest of it... at 16, he's probably old enough, and hopefully mature enough, to make decisions for himself as far as sexual activity. I wouldn't suggest approaching him on it as that's going to put him on the spot. I'd just keep an eye and be there and support him, and wait for him to come to you.
     
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    I'll chip in a few about approaching him.

    I don't think you should.

    At such a young age, he may be experiencing some denial, and for you to confront him out of the blue, it may make him anxious, scared, guilty, confused, and upset. Assuming he's not straight, of course.

    Ultimately, you'll have to judge yourself. Do you think he will handle it well? Do you think he would even appreciate it? If so, then you still have to be careful where you tread. I asked someone if they were gay about three times. Seriously, of course. They denied it or ignored me altogether, but when they actually came out to me, they told me they were really upset when I asked them that because they were still confused about it themselves. So wary of what you say and how you say it.

    They came out to me after I came out to them. Honestly, I thought it made me more relaxed. So, if your brother does turn out gay, you should consider coming out to him as well. It's a comfort that he's not alone in the family.
     
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    I think you are worrying a bit too much, but I understand the feeling. There's a chance he could be gay, but it could also just mean he's bi-curious or even straight with some stereotypical tendancies.

    I don't think childhood behaviors factor into sexuality. My brother was a very effeminate child who loved the color pink, playing with cooking sets, he was submissive and needed mommy next to him until he past his preteen years. But now? He's straight.

    The porn could just mean he's curious. There's proof that porn doesn't indicate sexuality; some straight guys prefer male porn because It's 'taboo'. Or he could be discovering his attraction to guys so he got curious and looked something up.

    It could ALSO mean that these traits are because he is gay. But if that's the case, try to respect his privacy and wait for him to come out for you :slight_smile:
     
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    Thanks, guys! I admit that I myself ain't out yet to my family, because we never really talked about it. I was just concerned about my brother because being lesbian, I experienced having 'identity issues' during my teens and it was hell difficult. I made a lot of mistakes that I regret until now, wishing I could rewrite history. So I guess I was just worried that he might do the same (if ever he's gay). I really want to support him, because no one supported me in the past. But then, I'll wait for him to approach me if ever he needs a big sis to talk to.

    Thank you for all the replies.
     
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    Didn't you go through a progression into rites of passage into lesbianism? He's doing the same. Your brother needs his space and respect. You should only interfere if there is something which can cause him harm, and not because you want to continue the first-born or more assertive child dynamics.
     
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    I would not outright ask him if he's gay, but I hope he knows about safe sex. You can bring that up on its own for just a minute, then let it go.
     
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    That's exactly what I meant, and the subject could even be broached in more general terms, as in "you know, there are some nasty viruses and bugs out there that teens need to know about," rather than couching it in a specific sexual preference so that it won't put him on the defensive. That's really all you should be discussing with him at this point. As for the rest, it's up to him.
     
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    First off, I wanna say I resort you greatly for caring so much about your little brother. But I also have to say, back off a little bit on the porn issue. If he's just now exploring his sexuality, he's going to be curious. That's not to say there aren't better ways to learn, but jut keep that in mind. Also, trust him to make good decisions and choices. I would talk to him and make sure he knows you love him, no matter what; he may be feeling scare to tell you.

    ---------- Post added 20th Jun 2014 at 07:56 AM ----------

    And btw I mean to say respect not resort
     
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    I'd say if you want to talk to him you can try talking to him on related stuff/lgbt/homosexuality in general to make him feel comfortable to come out to you sometime. only if he ever comes out to you.. you can discuss your concerns very carefully without interfering too much in personal stuff.
     
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    Update: He brought a guy last night, without asking permission from our grandparents, who are owners of the house. The oldies were offended by it, so yeah, I had to talk to him about showing respect. And again, I didn't mean to invade his privacy, but when I knocked and opened the door, my brother was staring and holding the guy's hand. Not that there's anything wrong about it, but I really think I should finally open up the topic about safe sex. :/
     
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    I think you should leave him be. I'm 13 and I've "explored" quite a bit. I understand you're worried about wether or not he's having "safe sex" or not but he's 15, so I'm pretty sure he's aware of the consequences and outcomes.
    Some people find themselves earlier then others, and you'd be very good moral support and a very good shoulder to lean on for him, but he's old enough to be making his own decisions about this if anything

    and hey, just think
    at least he cant get that boy pregnant :slight_smile:

    also, if your brother was holding his friends hand, then it could clear things up wether or not he's gay. holding hands isn't a very common action between straight guys :slight_smile:
     
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    I sense there is more going on here than just him being gay or straight. I think there are other real concerns. It doesnt matter if a kid is straight or gay, I think your brother is too young to be running around like that. So I definitely see your concern. If I had a younger brother or sister that age I would be very concerned too. I think your right about opening up the topic about safe sex and also abstinence (waiting until he is older and more mature).