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The "do I pass" thread

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by Just Jess, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. DoriaN

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    You're not on hormones iirc right? It would instantly fix all your problems, no haircuts or blah needed.

    Past that the only thing for a rounded face as I know it is weight loss.

    It might have changed with age or weight fluctuating, past that I don't know what to say =\



    Aww thank you ^^



    Thank you ^^


    I don't always feel pretty though... It's still a struggle.
     
  2. Nychthemeron

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    So, hey, I asked a little bit earlier in this thread, but this time it has less stuff.

    http://emptyclosets.com/forum/members/48112-albums7172.html

    I've been told I pass, and sometimes I do, but I feel like I don't, and most of the time, I don't.

    So what are your opinions on this? Please be very honest. Advice is totally encouraged.

    And, as a side note, I usually wear the hat, but I'm wondering if it has any effect on my passing?

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    Although your opinion matters the most, I assure you that you are always very beautiful.
     
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  3. Tai

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    Dorian, don't doubt yourself. You are really pretty. If I didn't think you were I wouldn't have said anything.

    Nychthemeron: I think your haircut is a bit feminine, and you have a round face (like me, it's pretty inevitable for us Asians). Other than that you look good.
     
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    I like your hair :slight_smile: Though I agree with Tai, your face is shaped in slightly feminine way. (in the pictures at least)
    I think that maybe you could try using liquid foundation or a concealer stick to make your lips slightly paler, or try some FtM makeup if you haven't already (there's tons of tutorials and tips online)
    Overall, you pass reasonably well, and you're looking good.
     
  5. NingyoBroken

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    You look like a cute Asian boy. Well, you ARE a cute Asian boy. But yeah.
     
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    Thank you, everyone. It's good to see someone else's unbiased opinion. I had the feeling that I pass only at night, when it's dark and people can't see me well, but it might be just a coincidence. I was also worried that I don't look more than 14, because I was often told that I look a lot younger than I am, even when I presented as female. I probably just feel insecure, because I'm always hearing female pronouns since I'm not out yet and because when I see how other guys my age look, I feel like everything in my body screams "female" and that even my 13-year old brother, who had just started puberty looks more masculine than me.
     
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    i looked at your pictures and you start to look more and more like a guy, i'd say you pass fine
     
  8. Nychthemeron

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    Hm, what about my hair is feminine? Not too good with fashion. Or taking selfies. Haha.

    Thanks, mate. =D

    Thank you! Is having a round face typically feminine? D=

    As for makeup, maybe. I always hated putting stuff on my lips, even chapstick, and I don't think I'm that desperate yet. Haha.

    Thanks, man! That really means a lot to me.

    I forgot to add, I think, but I believe you look around 16 to 17.

    A lot of the time our minds still tell us we don't pass even when we do. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with it being conditioned to seeing our body and being used to it, as well as the fact that actual passing is based off of strangers who have absolutely no prior knowledge of you. Since we already know ourselves, it's harder to pass to ourselves. Same with people who have been around you for a long time. You know?

    But, I assure you that you pass.
     
  9. Tai

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    I'm not sure if I'm pinpointing it right, but it may have to do with the long hair on the sides. My haircut looked pretty feminine the first time, and the second time I got it cut a little shorter on the sides and more jagged on top and I seemed to look more masculine. Also, if you like hats, I'd suggest snapbacks or baseball caps, they really masculinize me so it'd probably work for you too. Don't worry about the selfies, either. All of mine look terrible. I only take selfies to post for EC (in fact I'll be posting some maybe tomorrow or Saturday) so I suppose that explains that, haha.
     
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    ... Oh, wow... THIS is passing...

    Personal note... To check this thread more often...
     
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    I dunno, it really depends on the person. Anyway, I'm just being nitpicky, personally, I think you look great :3
     
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    I'll see if I can try to get something like that when my mother offers to cut it again. Or I'll just flat-out tell her to cut my hair like she'll cut my hair if I was born male, because I have a feeling she's basing how good it looks on what's "acceptable" for females. :dry:

    Thanks again, Tai (and everyone else). =)
     
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    No problem, and good luck
     
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    Posted a couple of pictures, any tips for passing? Advice?
     
  15. Acm

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    @Tai I think you pass really well already
     
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    @Tai - The dress shit looks awesome. The t-shirt still definitely looks guy, but with a faint hint of female. I think the dress shirt does more to square off your shoulders, which is what makes the difference.
     
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    You are definitely on the good way, i'm not sure if you'd pass though. If you can manage to grow your hair a bit more it could be better. Try a little less rouge on the cheeks, this looks a bit fakish
     
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    Thanks, yeah I agree on the rouge part. I'll do dbetter, I swear. :slight_smile:

    And the hair will not get cut. It's grown from almost buzzed to 4 inches since dec.
     
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    You passed well before and you pass well now. Looking good, man!

    Yeah, you pass to me! Your hairstyle is super cute.