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Is this normal? (Context: I’m gay but have sexual orientation OCD)

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by gloom and doom, Dec 18, 2023.

  1. gloom and doom

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    Hi everyone. I’m a 20 year old gay male and I have sexual orientation OCD. Basically HOCD but the opposite. It’s mainly over stuff I watched and was aroused by in the past. I get worried that it means I’m not actually gay or that people, if they were to find out I watched this stuff, would think I’m lying about my identity.

    So I was introduced to porn from a very young age. When I was 4 I discovered it by mistake on the family computer. Then I searched it a few times out of curiosity when I was 7 to 9. Then when I was around the age of 10, I began to watch it more regularly and actually get aroused by it. I watched it because so many people I went to school with, male and female, talked about it at school, which is really sad honestly. Kids that age shouldn’t even know what it is. But anyway, when I watched it around this age, I began watching almost every genre of porn. From straight to gay to lesbian to trans. You name it, I watched it. I would even sometimes look up erotic or vulgar key words on google search and that action alone would be enough to arouse me. It was so weird because at 10 I didn’t even hit puberty yet. I looked so young for a 10 year old and still at 20 I look like I’m 14. But I was still aroused by all of this and eventually at around 12 I learned how to masturbate. I was always very feminine and have been getting called gay before I even knew what the word meant. I always had a strong attraction and fascination with masculinity. I feel like I’ve been attracted to masculinity ever since I was a young child. Something weird happened around this age of 10-12 which I think contributed to my arousal to women at the time (I was aroused by both men and women and masturbated to both). I’ve always been solely attracted to straight men, never to gay men, and that is still the case today. That’s why I’ve never been in a relationship, and I’m honestly okay with that. I think I realized that I was only into straight men at a young age, subconsciously, so I started to develop this fetish where I was aroused by the thought of myself as a masculine straight guy. So many of my fantasies involved imagining myself as a guy who’s ultra masculine and as weird as it sounds I would sometimes imagine myself as guys from my school that I was attracted to. In some weird way I think this was my way of fulfilling that desire for a straight male since I knew I couldn’t actually have one. So I think I developed this pseudo-attraction to women since my whole life, my primary example of a masculine figure was my father, who openly sexualized women in front of me. He had no shame. Again I know how weird this sounds but I think I started to associate women and specifically overly sexualized women with masculinity, in some weird, inverse way. So sometimes I would sit there and jack off to pictures or videos of naked women. This wasn’t the only thing I masturbated to but was one of them. This lasted until I was about 16. I never wanted to be in a relationship with a woman, and the thought of it has always made me uncomfortable. I have no romantic desires for women and I feel and have always felt nothing around real life women. I never had crushes on girls at school, only boys. When I was 14 I dated this girl, because I felt socially pressured to, and everyone laughed it off because they thought I was gay and in denial (which was absolutely true in hindsight). She wanted to “go further” than holding hands, but I didn’t want to. We never even kissed. When I was 15 I came out as gay to my friends and they laughed that it took me so long because everyone knew. This wasn’t a secret to me because people have been calling me gay since I was in kindergarten.

    Now that I’m 20 and a half, I feel absolutely nothing when I see a naked or sexualized female. I haven’t watched porn in years (since I was about 17) and I think detoxing from porn use I went back to my “default setting” of only being attracted to men. But now I’m left with this feeling of “what the fuck?” over the stuff I used to watch and fantasize about. I fear that someone will find out I used to watch this stuff, either by somehow viewing my search history (even though it’s been deleted for years), or some other way). My fear is that people will think I’ve been lying about my identity or that homophobes will use it as “proof” that it’s a choice to be gay. I have extensive history with OCD, and have struggled with just about every “theme” possible. I don’t know what to do. Is this normal?
     
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    gloom and doom.....Hello and a big LGBTQIA+ welcome to Empty Closets! I can remember the first post that I made on EC. I was desperate for help and I got the help that night that I so needed. I hope that we can help you in the same way that I received help. The most important thing to remember about Empty Closets is that we do care about you! We're very glad that you found us here on EC and hope that we can answer questions, give you support and provide a place to vent (as long as it's not violent!)

    when that becomes necessary! This is a safe community of loving, caring and very supportive people and we will do our best to help you blend into the community.

    *****There are 18 different sub-forums here that you can check out, join in the conversations or start your own thread/conversation. When I first joined Empty Closets I was in need of a lot of support and encouragement and I found it here…EC is a safe place. I hope that you'll find good things here too! Folks here will talk to you and share...you don't have to be afraid of asking questions...we're glad to have you! Empty Closets is all about making connections and giving LGBTQ folks a voice when they otherwise don't have one in their day-to-day lives. You mention OCD...have you been diagnosed with OCD by a professional? Sometimes people just assume that their difficulties are due to OCD when it isn't necessarily the case. I bring this up as I do have OCD myself. It is diagnosed by professionals and treated by medication and therapy. If you are dealing with OCD then, like me, medication and therapy are the methods necessary to bring it under control. It's simply not something that you can handle by yourself. If you feel comfortable sharing with us, letting us know if you have connected with a therapist who can diagnose and treat OCD would be helpful as we try to help you with suggestions and advice. What you are dealing with is difficult, but not impossible to bring under control. The most important step would be finding a qualified therapist who works with the LGBTQ Community. You don't mention a therapist in your post, so again, if your comfortable sharing that with us, knowing if you are seeing a therapist would help us in anything the we might suggest to you. We really do want to help in anyway that we can and are glad that you have found us here on Empty Closets! :old_big_grin:

    *****In particular you may want to check out the forum that is titled "Sexual Orientation”, there are people there who may have dealt with some of the same kind of issues that could be challenging you.

    *****In particular you may want to check out the forum that is titled "Sexual Orientation”, there are people there who may have dealt with some of the same kind of issues that could be challenging you. Some info on how to navigate EC:

    When you have made at least 10 posts on various threads you will be able to post messages on a member's Profile Page. Just click on a member's Avatar Picture and then click on "Profile Page" in the dialogue box that pops up. You'll then be on their Profile Page and there will be a box that says: "Write Something" When you have been on EC for a few weeks and have made at least 50 posts on various forums, you can apply for Full Membership. A Full Member can send Private Messages (PM) to other Full Members and share personal contact info. Right now you can only send a PM to a Staff Member as that is always possible. Here is a quote from the Full Membership information forum: *****To be eligible you must be a member of Empty Closets for a minimum of two weeks, and have a minimum of 50 posts. These posts must be across numerous forums (Fun & Games does not contribute to post count), and consistently posted across a minimum of two weeks. You wouldn't be eligible, for example, if you registered, had no activity for two weeks, and then returned to post 50 times on your 14th day of membership.

    *****Well, as I said, we're very glad you found us! If you have any questions at all, you can always send me a Private Message.

    …..David :gay_pride_flag:
     
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    Hi David. I was diagnosed with OCD at 13 years old. I have all the classic symptoms like excessive handwashing and “magical thinking” as well as intrusive thoughts. I’ve had several themes over the years like existential OCD, harm OCD, and currently real event and sexual orientation OCD.
     
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    gloom and doom.....Are you currently seeing a therapist? That is the "Magic Ticket" to working through a lot of the kinds of difficulties like the ones you are facing. I know that finding the right therapist that worked with the LGBTQ Community was one of the best decisions that I ever made. The therapist doesn't have to be LGBT themselves, but mine happened to be gay and that helped a lot as he knew and understood much of what I was going through as he had gone through it himself! Bye-the-way I think a good first step would be to find a better, more encouraging user name. :old_smile: Not a big deal! But sometimes every little bit helps!
    .....David :gay_pride_flag:
     
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    I have a therapist currently but it’s just a talk therapist. I’m on the waitlist for an OCD specialized program so hopefully that will help! I haven’t really talked much about this OCD theme with my therapist since it’s a newer obsession but I should bring it up. I know for sure she’s LGBT-friendly.
     
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    To clarify I mean I’ve been struggling with OCD for years but this sexual orientation obsession only started recently.
     
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    g and d..... By all means talk to her about the OCD...don't wait for the other program. OCD literally hijacks your brain and lies to you. It can make life very difficult, as you may already know. It really does take the correct meds and a good therapist to get a handle on it and bring it under control. The longer you wait to get started on fighting it, the worse it can become. Please don't waist any time!
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    Perhaps a different perspective would help. A straight female friend of mine told me she only watches lesbian porn because she finds it far more erotic and sensual than straight porn. For her, the women in straight porn are unrealistic and sex is nothing like what is shown. She can't imagine being the woman in straight porn, but can in lesbian porn. Even though her watching habits are effectively homosexual in nature, it has no bearing on her sexuality.

    For me, porn reflected both reality and fantasy. I'd watch straight porn for ideas on positions and lesbian porn for ideas on how to please my wife. Secretly I'd watch mountains of gay porn because that's what I ultimately desired, but I'd always feel guilty and dirty after I climaxed. Since accepting myself as gay, I have no desire to watch anything but gay porn and I also don't feel guilty or dirty after. My viewing history is a record of my sexuality struggle and my view is that it shows that being gay wasn't a choice as I clearly fought against it for years.