Internal Pain During Anal Sex - What's up?

Could this pain Skiguy68 is referring to not be the prostate that is being over stimulated? That could range from being heavenly pleasure to weird pain.

 

can you clarify this? are you saying that people should not engage in anal sex because it serves no purpose in sex? and that the only reasons people do it (bottom) is to take the roll of a woman? and that some encourage it to "often justifying their own over use of their anus"?

what?

 

can you clarify this? are you saying that people should not engage in anal sex because it serves no purpose in sex? and that the only reasons people do it (bottom) is to take the roll of a woman? and that some encourage it to "often justifying their own over use of their anus"?

I am not saying that people shouldn't engage in anal sex nor am I saying that bottoms are taking the roll of a women. I'm saying that the risks are very much understated particularly for penetration that reaches the sigmoid colon or further. I also disagree with claims that an outer sphincter will return to normal elasticity and the language describing how internal organs will just re-align naturally. I am an experienced Top and I can state without any shadow of a doubt that I can feel the effects of an over used anus at the point of entry and further up to the back of the anus.

I find the absence of advise on how to minimise damage or gradual loosening somewhat perplexing, though when you think about it only gay men who have particular interest in limiting knowledge of this field to support a pro-anal sex at will agenda will ensure that doesn't change.

Anyone who has had receptive anal knows the abundant pleasure possible when performed well and the pleasure zones which come from being penetrated up to the sigmoid colon.

There is very little evidence though other than anecdotes from self deprivation loving submissive bottoms about from there on up the risks of significant damage vs even if done well almost purely psychological pleasure of feeling a stretch further up inside them. :eek:

 

Well as you said yourself, there's a lack of research into the long and short term consequences of anal sex, so it's a bit presumptive to assume that there are any negative side effects. That being said, there could indeed be risks that we are unaware of. Then again, drinking and smoking both have negative side effects that we all know of, as does the overuse of medication, yet most people drink, lots of people smoke and in 2010 the average american filled 12 prescriptions in a year. It is also worth pointing out that gay men are more likely to live a healthier lifestyle (ie diet correctly, exercise more often) than straight men. Ever hear of the saying 'life swings in roundabouts'?
That being said, you should probably take care to be prepared and in a safe position...

 

just wondering skiguy if you ever figured out what was causing the pain, and if it ever got any better?

 

Skyguy68, your top also has to take some responsibility. My partner is more bottom so I top and I have been topping him for a while now so I know this part of his body well. Sometimes his outer ring is tight (for no specific reason). When I enter him I feel the outer ring and then the opening right behind it which is not tight. Then if he is in missionary or some other way I can get very deep, we get past the 2nd ring. The anatomy guys are right, his rectum points towards his navel and he experiences the best feelings when my penis is pointed in that direction and as a top I can feel when there's less resistance. Your top needs to pay attention to what he is feeling between his penis and your insides.

 

migval makes a good point. a top with little experience may just push harder when he meets resistance. he needs to be more sensitive to that, and even back out a little when he gets too much resistance. sometimes just backing out a bit and holding it there for a minute is all it takes, and then he can go forward. but never push forward through pain when having sex. and always let him know when it is hurting.

 

I have the same problem and everyone's answer is always RELAX. The only thing that's helped me is to do it with smaller dicked guys and in the spooning position.

 

What? Gay men are more likely to smoke, drink heavier and take more drugs than straight men. Also, the incidence of STD's and STI's in the gay community is far higher than in the straight community.

 

My solution was to squat/sit on the well-endowed guy, this way there was no pain way up there. Other positions hit the back of the rectum and caused that deep dull pain upon contact when he trusted all the way in. He was very good about not going all the way in when we were in other positions. (He was beautiful, hung, AND considerate!) I wonder if you can simulate a squatting position but rotated somehow, like on your back, etc, with everything in the same alignment as it is when squatting but rotated 90 degrees? Or is it somehow not the same because of gravity, whatever, etc? I was only with this guy once so I can't practice. :-(

 

Okay, guys, I found this forum and this question through googling, and I wouldn't butt into the discussion if it wasn't for the fact that the explanation I found hasn't really been mentioned yet, and there still seems to be interest, judging by the dates of the last posts.

Personally, I'm asexual, so I've only ever done this kind of thing with toys. But I've still experienced a sharp, sudden pain deep in the gut a few times, like getting knifed, but which doesn't really linger if the object is removed from that spot and the motion not repeated, or at least not as more than a weak echo. It mainly only seems to happen when whatever I'm penetrating myself with is too straight or too hard (width and stretch don't seem to figure into this, though I'm not into toys much bigger than a normal penis).

I know it's not an actual injury, like a scratch or something, because the rectal walls themselves don't have pain receptors, and there's no blood anyways. I know it's not an overstimulated prostate, because I don't have one. I know it's not the bladder, because I find the ache of hard pressure on a full bladder actually quite oddly pleasant when I'm aroused. And when I hit the curve to the sigmoid colon, that's just a dull thud for me - I can see how that could be very unpleasant if you're not the one controlling the speed and pressure, but it's nowhere similar to the sharp pain that I mean here. (Maybe it's different for you guys, since you seem to actually be able to go beyond that point, judging by some of the more extreme amateur porn I've seen. For me, there's just no going further, and the unpleasant sensation feels like it comes from squishing my internal walls against something unmovably solid. Perhaps the pubic bone / sacrum is in the way if you're born with two X-chromosomes.) It might be something to do with the uterus for me - the pain is in a similar location and the pain level and sharpness is akin to what I felt when I must have stretched my cervix a little by accident once. But if that was the problem, I wouldn't read so many similar experiences from cis guys feeling sudden pain during anal sex.

So, from what I could find out on several anal sex advice sites, the issue seems to be that the puborectalis muscle sling, which we all have and which should be relaxed and out of the way during anal penetration, can tense up suddenly in a kind of reflex, if it's prodded suddenly and with too much force. And apparently that can result in such a sudden, sharp pain.

The recommended solution is to align the muscle sling so that the sigmoid colon is as straight as possible (as opposed to S-shaped, as it normally is), and so the penis / toy won't push at the muscles behind the rectal walls (especially towards the front) in an angle that's too perpendicular to the angle of the colon itself. I.e. sliding at a 10-25% angle to put some pressure on the prostate / skene's gland (G-spot) is good, but poking at the muscles surrounding those structures full on at a right angle is bad, especially if there's some power behind the thrusts. From what I've read, the recommendet positions for cis-male bottoms are squatting / sitting on the top (because our brain is used to relaxing the puborectalis muscle during a bowel movement and because the position makes it easier for the bottom to control the angle in which the penis slides), or at least to get the knees as close to the chest as possible in other positions to change the angle of the hips and all the muscles in the pubic area (fetal position for spooning; pushing the legs to the bottom's shoulders during missionary; laying the upper body low on the knees instead of keeping the arms straight during doggy style; etc.) It seems the oft-recommended position for relaxed entry, with the bottom flat on his stomach, or the rushed standing / bent-over-a-desk position often portrayed in porn would be especially prone to create a bad angle for agitating the puborectalis sling.

And of course, as always, deep relaxation helps. As does being able to trust the top will stop and go slower when you tell him to...

I hope this helps somebody at least a little.