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Discussion in 'General Support and Advice' started by Alehkz, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. sldanlm

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    Rosie O Donnell dated a guy like 28 yrs ago for about 8 months, she's probably not a gold star lesbian either. I think her vagina's gotten over being touched by a penis by now hopefully. :dry:
     
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    with all the women she's dated and married I'm pretty sure by now it has .
     
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    You are always right on the money! I very much agree.
     
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    OK. You know, ya, sexism blows. It really does. But we can't play the blame game for the rest of our lives. So, because society hurts us, we are going to hurt other women? I don't know. So let me get this straight *no pun intended*....society brainwashes us to think lesbian love isn't valuable (it does) so then some threatened lesbians decide to reject a potentially awesome woman just because she had contact with the peen some time in her life.

    Who are these people hurting??????? other women.
    What ideology are these people supporting? that the peen is sooo wayyyyyyyy more valuable than the V and it's the ONLY thing able to give the V sexual bliss. *rolls eyes*

    ^^^the second part is the saddest part. I'd suggest considering learning about oneself and others in addition to studying female-bodied anatomy........there's this thing that starts with a "c" which is pretty crucial for like 90% of the female populations bliss......enough said.

    Is this what repercussions one wants to happen? My guess is no.
     
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    Sorry asexuals. Last thing I want is to insult you too. I'm just going to be chaste. There. Better?
     
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    I'm pretty sure if you try hard you can get over your fear .
     
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    Thanks. Not that I haven't been trying my hardest to change myself and the way I think. I am not an ignorant person. To the girls who called me ignorant: I'm a student of life and I like to learn from others, but calling someone "ignorant" comes off to me as someone who is an absolute selfrightous entitled individual about knowing something I don't. My bad. My definitions might be outdated or I might be completely off the mark, and I will gladly stand corrected. I'm that humble. But seriously, one thing these days I see rampant in the internet is people calling others "ignorant" for anything but ignorance. Yes, there are ignorant people, and then there are innocent people, or unexposed people, or outdated people, etc....
     
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    I don't think your ignorant , I just think maybe something happened which caused you to feel this way
     
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    I was talking to the other girls before you, stocking. Thanks for your well wishes :slight_smile:
     
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    I want to just make sure you should know I didn't call you ignorant I said that statement you made was an ignorant one.. Which by the book definition of ignorant which is the definition I follow it was correct to call one of your statements which is the one I called you out on (just specifying) was completely right to say so. I believe you were referring to me as well and if so I hope you were just saying girls as a general term and not calling me a girl..
     
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    Your welcome :slight_smile:
     
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    I'm curious as to how would you really know if a woman who identifies as a lesbian if she's been sexually involved with a man or not. I mean, a lot of people may not even be honest about past sexual history for many reasons such as shame, embarrassment etc.

    She may volunteer that sort of information, but honestly I think past sexual relationships should not be discussed with new potential partners. Discussing such history would probably make anyone feel insecure because I used to discuss my sexual history with new partners and in doing so, it made them feel intimidated and extremely insecure.

    I think it's pretty normal to freak out if you're thinking about who the person you're in bed with have slept with prior to you. So, instead of thinking of who they have been with, I think you should focus more on the person you're sharing a bed with. However, I can see that you're having a difficult time with this because it's not like you can change how you feel. But I think if you're willing to try then you're already making progress.
     
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    I do not think that gold star lesbians are better than a women who slept with men in her past. I mean it looks like penis can change everything. If a girl sleeps with a guy she is straight and even if all her life after it she will sleep with women some people will still call her bi. If a guy sleeps with a guy for one time in his life he is gay even if he is intrested in women only or married now. I understand for some lesbians they knew they were gay and they had no need to try sex with a man to find out. It is just really personal choice. I would not care if my girl ever been with a guy or not all I care is that now she is my girl :grin: it is how I think.
     
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    Now I'm not sure if I am afraid of being lied to or being told the truth. Hm... I do like the Pema Chodron quote. Made me feel better. And yes. Speaking up about this is admitting it to myself, facing my demons, and making some sort of progress. I want to get over it and lay it to rest. I am afraid of dating over again because someone's sexual past hurt me. The way she said it, the things she did... She didn't lie. She just didn't come clean about things and I found out through other sources. OK. I can accept some of you can think it isn't a big deal to date lesbians who have slept with men. Cool. How many of you can date a person who in addition has been a stripper? and a drug dealer? And marked an army guy just for the benefits? And who was promiscuous? And who told you all of this in a "no big deal" tone? Would you ever look at that person the same way? Secrets aren't lies but they sure hurt like the truth itself.

    My dating life is over. I feel burned out emotionally and morally and in every living aspect of my sexuality. I feel violated or mistaken for someone stronger. I want to reach out to a blade for help. Its pathetic. It is a different kind of heartbroken I have never experienced. I can take all the antidepressants and counseling the world can offer but I doubt I will ever be the same. Telling you guys this makes me feel somewhat relelieved and liberated but I am still the same human mess.
     
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    Im sorry that last response confuses me are you talking about one person in your past doing those things or are you basically comparing all those things to sleeping with a man?
     
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    I loved her enough to accept the drug thing, but sexual deviancy to me is a grave moral trespass. I hope life is kind and let's me find she whom will turn my life around....and who thinks somewhat similar to me. I won't use the term gold star as I have been informed has a bad connotation. I don't have a label or name or whatever. So I don't know what I could use in lieu of the dreaded gold Stella.

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    No I'm not comparing all this to sleeping with a man. This is what that girl I was dating confessed to me after I confronted her about some stuff I found out through other sources. Obviously she didn't tell me because she felt shame but on that token she didn't sound like she had any remorse for doing slang of the above mentioned. She just said it in a "no big deal" tone, not a "OK I need to get this off my chest" or an " I was someone else back then." That girl is my source for my "insecurities about dating lesbians who have slept with men.
     
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    I dated a stripper once. She never sold drugs but she gave a little pot to someone, so technically she was guilty of distributing. She never had intercourse with a guy, but she was promiscuous with other girls. That, and her wanting us to do lesbian porn together was what caused the breakup, not her past.

    Except for thoughts of suicide, I've felt that way too after the end of one particular relationship. I would suggest counseling. If I'd had to do it over again that's what I would've done instead of just trying to deal with it myself. (*hug*)
     
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    I'll seek some counseling. Should iI see a sexuality specialized counselor or a regular shrink?
     
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    A counselor who is sexuality-specific could possibly be better, it still depends on whether they're a reputable counselor. You can be a sexuality-specific counselor but still be lousy.

    I think you need to find a good counselor who is without-doubt open to discussing sexuality without imparting their judgement on you. Too often we (on EC) hear about people that go to regular counselors who say they're sexuality-friendly but then end up trying to tell the client that they're wrong or that their feelings aren't natural.

    So, it's more important that you find a supportive, good counselor. If they're sexuality-specific, great, but it's more important for them to be able to listen to everything you have to say, sexuality and all, without the trivial comments.
     
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    I can relate to the OP so much, penises are repulsive, i dont want them anywhere near me or the girl im dating.
    I thought about staying away from dating all together, seems easier that way
    Im not saying nongoldstars are less worth than me, its just that i cant get past the dick thing, its too gross.
    Cant imagine how lesbian could ever bring herself to go through with it, must be traumatizing.