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  1. lottaotter

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    I think I'm even past aplogising for being an ugly, attention-seeking piece of shit and a failure but sorry anyway to anyone who reads this.

    I need an outlet. I can't even cut my wrists because my parents are visiting me and they'll see. I really want it all to end because things aren't getting better. All my effort is for nothing I will never ever come close to measuring up to even half what other people are I am disgusting and a waste of space.

    This isn't the first time I've make this stupid type of self pitying post and I should be better by now I just don't get how. Nothing seems to work I feel like I'm invisible. Even if I get better now that is still 28 years wasted.

    Why are other people so perfect? Maybe it's because they had parents who were capable of loving them and showing their love? Maybe they weren't touched up by the staff at nursery school when they were 3 years old? Maybe they don't have a dad who is alcohol-dependant? Maybe they didn't drop out of everything they tried because (unlike me) they are supported and actually have talent? Maybe they weren't repeatedly locked in a cupboard as a child and told that their mommy and daddy would never find them because they didn't love them?

    Why the fuck did this happen to me? I think God actually hates me and you know what I hate me too. And probably everyone else does, everyone else who isn't using me as a goddamn emotional support crutch.

    Can't phone samaritans because I have nowhere private to make the call and I don't deserve help anyway, and I wouldn't be able to take their advice or advice from a therapist because I'm so useless anyway and pathetic.

    I'm sorry everyone but this might really be it. I'm so sorry this is so dramatic but I want attention so badly.
     
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    This isn’t attention seeking, this is a cry for help, you don’t have to apologize for that. It’s normal to speak and exprime your feeling, good or bad. You have and had a lot of problem, it’s normal to feel bad.
    You should really see a therapist, you don’t necessarily need to take their advice but at least you need to have someone to talk to.
    It’s ok to not do has much has other people. Not everyone has the same need in their life.
    You’re not pathetic, you’re human.
    I can’t really help you, but please don’t do a mistake. I know that my text may sound fake but I mean it. Maybe you life before was « wasted » and that’s why you should have a better one from now.
    Anyway, you should really see a therapist, it’s important.
     
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    lottaotter.....You want attention...you got it! :old_big_grin: And I don't mean that in a condescending way at all. I've been where you are, although for different reasons. I'm going to assume that every one of the things that you said have happened to you are absolutely true. In spite of all of that, you are missing one very important detail. There is and will only ever be one of you. If you do something to harm yourself...as I almost did...then all of those people out there who you would have met, who you would have become friends with and even that one person to whom you would have become a partner to, will never have met you. You will have thrown away all of that future. I've read many of your posts and I can understand how shy you are...that's another thing we have/had in common. I was so shy in my younger years that I couldn't even look at people in the face. Some of us are just not outgoing people! That doesn't mean that we have to make a 180º turn. It just means that we need to slowly and gradually let ourselves adjust to a somewhat more outgoing personality...just a little-not a lot! Anyway, if the Sports Club that you were going to doesn't work for you...are there other groups around where you live? Are there any LGBTQ Support organizations in your area that might have information on those kinds of groups? It would be worth it to look into it! :old_smile: Please remember that you are important and that we do care about you!
    .....David :gay_pride_flag:
     
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    LottaOtter - for starters let's forget using pejoratives like 'attention-seeking'. Maybe you're a person who hasn't been paid a lot of attention in his life thus far! You need people to hear you and there's nothing wrong in that. We hear you.

    I wish I could click my fingers and magic you up some instant confidence. Instead all I can say is you're ok and we accept you just as you are. You're not ugly, useless or pathetic. You're not self-pitying. You're not 'attention-seeking' (whatever that is). By the sounds of it you've been dealt a poor hand in life, but that doesn't mean to say things are always going to be this hard.

    When you do get a chance I would recommend the Samaritans though. They are amazing. They saved me when I was at my lowest ebb in 2020 and I'll never forget their kindness and compassion. And counselling - PLEASE seek it out. Even if you've had a not-so-great experience with one therapist doesn't mean to say they'll all be like that. If you persist you will find someone who can help.

    Giving you a big big virtual hug. If you ever want to unload do feel free to PM me any time..

    Beth xx
     
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    lottaotter, stop talking about yourself like that! You are none of those things! This is what you should do when you need help! And God loves you, I have no doubt about that!

    Believe me, I've been there with the hating myself. Think of making progress like climbing a cliff face- you start from the bottom, and as you scale up the side you have to carefully find the hand holds and foot holds to keep climbing. It's not an easy or straightforward path, and at times you might slip a bit or get rained on, but eventually you will reach the top. Right now it's raining and you're slipping, you need to find those hand holds and hang on for dear life. Think, what was helping you make progress before?
     
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    HOPE - "Hold on Possibilities Exist"

    You ae not alone, I've had sexual abuse by my father who was also and alcholic and drug user. It's not easy but you can get through this. I pray that you can find someone to talk to about this. There is hope we just have to find it for you.

    -Tommy
     
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    I'll respond to everyone eventually but I just wanted to respond to this for now to say that this has been a huge part of this 'episode'.

    Someone from the group messaged me to ask if I was going to the social on the weekend and I replied saying that 'I'd like to but it kind of depends how socially awkward I'm feeling'. I said that because I have been desperate for an opportunity to tell at least on person on the group about that struggle, so that maybe someone will understand I'm not necessarily standoffish or aloof, just really shy.

    It was a goal I'd set myself to tell just one person .

    But it looks like it was the wrong thing to do because I haven't had a response in 7 hours. I don't think I can ever show my face there again now which sucks.
     
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    Maybe they don't know how to respond you and thinking about it or understood what you said and just didn't respond, because they didn't have anything else to add?

    Sometimes people just take things like it is. The silence isn't nessecarily a bad thing.
     
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    You could be right. I am wondering if I should avoid that person IF I end up going to the social anyway, so as not to make it awkward. I feel now like it was a very bad idea to be open about social anxiety.
     
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    Thank you. I don't have much to say but thank you for replying to my post. I am going to try again and again to get a therapist. I was seeing one, but I don't think she grasped the extent of my self-esteem problem. I need more than a therapist telling me to 'believe in myself'... I actually need a way to do that. Strategies and things I can DO.
     
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    Thank you David. I'm sorry for my late reply. My parents are visiting me at the moment and there is nothing that stresses me out more than having guests. I've spent my whole life making sure everyone is happy all the time around me and entertaining guests is an intensification of that.

    Thank you for your words. I feel like I'm very needy on EC, as you and others have helped so many times before and yet I'm not getting any better. Yes, everything I listed is true, even though my brain tells me I'm lying. My mom had post-natal depression and wasn't able to love me. And then I was sexually and emotionally abused. And the bullying continued from there. Sometimes I look back at my shitty life and think that the people who abused me, or the other kids who bullied me, would not be able to stand one day in my life. And then I remeber that they will never have to.

    I just don't know HOW to become better/to heal/to become less shy and less doubting of myself 24/7. I don't now HOW to improve my self-esteem.

    LGBTQ support organisations in the UK generally only offer support to people under 24 years old. At 28 I am deemed to be somone who ought to be healed, or else is past helping. I am starting to agree with that. But I will try looking. I am quite disappointed in mysefl about the sports group. I envy the other guys there so much because they're around my age and yet are so experienced in sex, so outgoing, so proud, so normal-looking, so knowledgable about all things gay, they love drinking and dancing and singing at loud, busy gay clubs. They're everything I ought to be (even though I don't think I want their lifestyles exactly, I DO want the self-esteem they exude and the lack of self-doubt). I joined as a goal for myself, but I am not making progress anymore and getting worse in fact (I mean at socialising with other gay men, not the sport part of it). Should I give up? I am coming away from there every week feeling anxious and beating myself up for failing to be more talkative and outgoing and confident and friendly.
     
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    Thank you Beth. I feel bad that you always read and reply to my posts with nice things to say- I don't deserve them because I have never done anything nice in return. I have definitely not been paid very much attention in life so far. I'm desperate for some attention.

    I have called Samaritans a few times before, and again last night. I do appreciate their work. Of course they are not able to give advice, which is what I need right now (support, help, advice, things I can do to make myself heal).

    I am going to email another therapist tonight. I have tried four so far and emailed many others. It's hard to get someone who will do in-person meetings at the moment (I have no privacy at home). I think the problem must be me.

    Thank you again.
     
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    Thank you, I appreciate it.

    As for what was helping me before, I am not really sure. This bout of anxiety and self-hatred came out of nowhere, although I know that comparing myself to others caused it. Unfortunately I don't know how to avoid that. Maybe if I liked myself more I wouldn't do it. I have felt this way for my entire life really. Right now I need a break, and I do have time off from work in 10 days time, but it's whether I have the mental resilience to make it that far. I need a break from worrying about whether I'm doing this and that right, whether I said the right thing etc. and if I'm doing enough to make everyone around me super happy all the time, catering to their every 'need' and managing their emotions for them.
     
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    Thank you. I am so sorry that that happened to you. Do you think there is a hope that we can heal from childhood abuse? I'm starting to think at age 28 that maybe I can't. Please be honest, if you think it's not possible.

    By the way, I live in Wales too :slight_smile:
     
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    You're a people pleaser, and I have been too. It takes time to overcome that, baby step by baby step. These are grown adults, while people need support from time to time and it's great to support the people you love, managing their emotions is on them- not you.

    Part of what's helped me get a tiny bit of confidence is learning to accept that there isn't anything wrong with me for being trans. I haven't fully done that yet but the tiny bit I have has helped. Pick one thing off the list of what you think is wrong with you and try to do the same. Healing and building confidence is possible, but it's an uphill battle- so start small. Work your way towards the bigger items there, and when you're tired or need to vent do so here. That's what I have to do.
     
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    Grrr nothing pisses me off more than people/therapists/medical professionals who try to force the rest of us into their virtual world where we all exist behind a f***ing screen. Persist - there must be someone if your local area doing face to face meetings. If not, then we really are all f*****.

    Remember that people who exude self confidence on the surface very often have all sorts of doubts, insecurities, issues and foibles underneath. Also...surely there must be some more mature, coupled members of the running club; blokes who have seen it all and might be easier to talk to and open up to?

    You did a really brave thing, opening up like that. Keep it up - I don't know about you but I really appreciate honesty. If people know you're socially awkward then they're more likely to go out of their way to make you feel welcome. That's what I would do anyway!

    Hugs, Beth
     
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    I am definitely a people-pleaser. It got the the stage where it was costing me money as well as time to cater to other people, and I have actually seen some progress, without as much push-back as I expected when I stand up to my housemate recently. I feel more confident every time I do it. I'm wondering if I'm being too much of a people-pleaser with the sports group? Caring if they like me all the time. They obviously don't like me when I'm trying to be normal and outgoing, so maybe I should try to be myself and not filter anymore. If they don't like me still then nothing has changed.

    That is something I could try. What did you do when you had picked your item off your list exactly?

    Thank you.
     
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    Good news! I have just got an email back from one therapist's office this morning and they have forwarded my enquiry to one of their therapists who does in-person sessions.

    There is one older guy who went out of his way last time to be friendlier to me and try to engage me on the conversation. I just hope I didn't say anything weird, we're from quite different background and I honestly think I'm the first person from a council estate with a regional accent most of them have ever encountered!

    I hope you're right about them, that they do have their own insecurities (that sounds really bitchy to type out but you know what I mean, that I makes them more human!). I have to say that most of not all of them are prolific selfie-posters on social media. Like several pictures a day of them enjoying expensive drinks in cafés and bars with a their many, many friends.

    That's what I would do to if there was someone there who was anxious. I am still tempted to go to this social anyway and carry on for one more week attending the group.

    Thanks again Beth, hope you are having a good week.
     
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    It’s great to hear those news ! I hope that everything is going to be fine for you
     
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    I'm not sure if I can totally heal from the abuse, but I have learned to live with it and not to let it rule my everyday life. There are times where it hits harder than others, but I do believe in hope to live a somewhat normal life.
     
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