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6 Months Update (OCD Recovery, Shame, etc.!)

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    Hi,

    To give a TLDR on previous posts: A devastating cocktail of undiagnosed OCD and questioning sexuality led me to be in an extremely rough place. It's worth noting I've always questioned my sexuality, and my OCD was more sexual orientation based rather than a fear of being gay/bi etc.

    I'm happy to share that in the past couple months my OCD has winded down to a point where things in my life are almost back to "normal", as in not being devastated by anxiety most days. I likely was also suffering from comorbid depression as well.

    Things that have helped, apart from medication and exercise, was discussing sexuality a bit with friends. Although I haven't "come out" publicly per se, I have brought up the topic with some friends and getting this topic off my chest has been really helpful. Sometimes the best thing you can do is talk it out instead of feeling like you're hiding something. Another point of concern with my OCD came from finding someone who's, for example, 17, attractive, as they're under 18, even though the person looks older. Although most would argue that's completely normal for a 21 year old guy, that's something I've had to come to terms with as it is what it is, but obviously I would never cross any boundaries, nor do I have any interest in doing so, and this has helped to make my anxiety cease. Additionally, the "obsessional" aspect of persistently contemplating sexual orientation has seemed to also wind down as I come to terms with my own bisexuality and trying to not care about it too much. After all, obsessively contemplating sexuality does nothing for me, it's just one of those things that is what it is.

    One of the main other points in my recovery from OCD has been learning to trust myself more. Although that trust isn't back 100% I'm working to get there!

    Thank you to everyone who posted on my previous posts, all of the responses were very meaningful to me even if it was something that took a minute to write.

    Additionally if anyone has any questions for someone who has been clinically diagnosed with OCD and has questioned their sexuality, feel free to ask any questions in the replies to this post and I can help you to the best of my abilities. Having gone through this stretch and made it to the other side in 1 piece I feel obligated to help anyone in a similar spot.
     
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    Hey,

    Welcome back. Glad you're feeling better. I'm in a bit of a similar situation as you, I go into more detail in my post here https://forum.emptyclosets.com/inde...regarding-sexuality-a-result-of-shame.487693/

    Just a quick question. Could you get off to gay porn/fantasies while you were questioning? Did you feel like this was a test/compulsion you would do? Everything in my mind almost tells me I'm attracted to guys. I can see them on the street and acknowledge their attractiveness. However, I've tried countless times to masturbate to guys, and I just can't get off to them like I do to girls. But whenever I question wehether I'd be happy dating girls, something inside me, or my mind, just says no you won't you'd be better off dating guys.

    I think you're right about talking about it though. None of my friends would really care, but I just bottle it in rather than talking about it. And I get these urges to just blurt out "I'm gay" sometimes
     
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    So good to know when people can fight their ocd, makes me happy. Im happy to hear your doing well, like you i had a good time with ocd about my sexuality, which always made me test, even nowadays i do only sometimes, like i think im a lot better now. But i still have some sessions of testing sometimes.

    Im just wondering, i dont want to make you get anxious or anything is just a curiosity, you said that youre better when you came to terms with your bissexuality, but are you really bissexual? Like you really like guys and girls, or you say this to make the ocd stop? Im not trying to be rude really, is just bc i saw a lot of ppl around the internet and in forums about ocd saying that they said to themselves that they were bissexual and the ocd stopped, but they actually never got attracted to any men. So im just curious.

    And a question about me. I dont know about you, but even if i like to fantasize about women, theres a weird feeling in my stomach, that makes me feel like im not enjoyning, even if im hard, and it makes me wonder a lot why this happens, how do you dealt with these moments of confusion? :slight_smile:
     
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    me too
     
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    The problem with the above is that it's tied into the neurochemical imbalance that's giving rise to the anxiety/OCD behaviors. This is one of the places where CBT strategies, such as in the book "Brain Lock" can be really helpful in retraining your brain to pull yourself back into the present and recognize the thoughts as obsessions, not rational thoughts, which makes it easier to let them go. Easier said than done when the OCD is out of control. And that's where the medication comes in.

    For people with severe OCD, such as yours, there is really no solution other than getting medication managed. Once that's under control, then you can more easily retrain your mind as Sadboi has done. But it's extremely difficult to do until you can get the neurochemistry balanced.
     
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    i feel like it’s damn near impossible that i’m gay. at most bisexual but even then i don’t think that label sounds right to me. i have ocd and have been questioning my sexuality. my sex drive has came back and i try to get aroused by guys and it doesn’t work. as soon as i think about a girl though i’m hard straight away ahah. there was a point where my attraction to women went away
     
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    Sure, great questions. Actually, I’d say I still am questioning! But if I had to give myself a label that closely resembles how I feel it would be bi as I’ve had both gay and straight fantasies. My heterosexuality developed before anything homosexual, actually my friend I talked to it with diagnosed me with “late onset gay”, ha! I’ve read your post and I think you’re in a bit of a similar situation to me, actually probably one of the more similar I’ve read on this forum. I’ve read up and researched immensely the workings of OCD since being diagnosed around a year ago, and there isn’t any invalid way it can manifest itself. To me, if sounds like you like chicks as well as cuddling with dudes, and if that the extent of what you like it’s what you like. But the whole point of treating OCD is being able in the end to accept the uncertainty and move on. Maybe you’re gay. Or straight. Or bi. These are all labels and who knows, but the only way you’ll overcome the OCD aspect is accepting that question will never be answered and you can carry on.

    When struggling at the worst with my OCD, if I had a magic machine that would tell me my exact sexuality, I’d probably convince myself the machine could faulty or wrong. I would never be satisfied with the answer.

    Have you spoken to a professional or been diagnosed with OCD? Have you worked with a therapist or psychiatrist in the past? I think you would benefit greatly from reaching out one and just talking it out.
     
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    Great question! Yes, I’d say the way my OCD manifested a bit differently as I’d fantasized about both men and women, but I would obsessively contemplate most days what this meant for me. I want to make it explicitly clear my OCD manifested differently from people settled on a sexual orientation who have persistent “fears” of being gay or straight, but more a constant barrage of trying to figure out what my fantasies meant for me. But yes, bi would be the best way to describe me, as in, I’d date a lady or a dude.
     
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    hey sadboi i’ve done a lot of soul searching through ocd and questioning myself. my sex drive has came back and anxiety is low but i still keep testing to see if i get aroused by men and i never do. but as soon as i think of women i’m hard straight away. i think it’s clear i’m straight or at most bisexual but my brain won’t let me settle with that. i’m almost over this obsession though i think. so your ocd is based on the ambiguity of your orientation rather than it being a different orientation than you believed?
     
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    Oh yeah i understand what youre saying, that would explain why theres a moment where i cant control myself, or moments that i have sever intrusive thoughts. Ill say is very weird that like, i see a women and im getting aroused, and then suddenly a pe is pop up in my head, i k ow ots not the penis that is arousing me, but the anxiety starts to grow and grow even it was not me that decided to think about that, this usually happens when im masturabting to woman, change to men to test, and even dont getting arpused, when i switch back to women its easier for me to finish, and i think theres a big role of anxiety there, i think anxiety can cause arousal too, not just take it.

    Well i started taking new meds for 2 days now, i dont think ill get a result so early on, my psychiatrist said this medication will help me not to engage in compulsions, some as masturabting to test, or even mental tests, and the other that i take before sleeping is to hell me sleep well and help with my anxiety. We see where this goes. Thank you chip
     
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    Oh i got that, so even before your ocd you fantasized about both men and women? I understand. I say this bc i can understand the whole point of getting anxious about something that you dont know, like i said, there are moments where i just try to see cute girls and masturbate, but inside i had this urge to test, so i do test, dont feel almost nothing, only like some tingling feelings, but when i come back to women again, is so easier for me to masturbate, while if i didnt do this test with men it wouldnt be that easy, so it makes me so confused, and not that i get aroused by men, i dont, this is what makes it such a mess, i think that anxiety can cause some sort of arousal, dont know.

    But good to know youre feeling well men, im happy for you!
     
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    Yes, that’s a good way of putting it
     
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    yeh i think mine is more centered on the fear of being gay not because there’s anything wrong with it, i have a very open family and friend group, my best friend is gay or bi he doesn’t know yet. the reason i fear it mainly comes from losing access to women which i love and sex with men is really foreign and unnatural for me personally (homosexuality is perfectly natural in people, i just mean personally)
     
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    on top of this i wouldn’t even mind being bi if there was some actual sexual attraction there
     
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    Yes, your experience sounds much more like the “I’m straight but what if I’m not straight what if I’m bi what if what if” type of OCD which isn’t exactly my experience.
     
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    Hi.

    Do you had moments where you were more aroused by women after testing with men? This kind happens to me a lot, i domt know if this is a anxiety result but maybe is, even if i dont get hard with men, i have this intense tingling feeling, most bc im already aroused and switching between, but theres this feeling there, but after i come back to woman again, im finish much more fast, like so fast. I never understand why this happens tbh. I dont test myself with men anymore but i can say that bc of this it takes long for me finish rather when i tested with men, didnt get hard, and went back to woman. Is very weird right?
     
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    The way OCD works is it creates an unsolvable question, which is exactly what you're describing here. As Sadboi said, even if there's been an absolutely infallible machine that had, for sure, told him his sexual orientation, he would have convinced himself the machine is faulty, and that's how OCD works. Your brain won't settle because of the neurochemical imbalance. In the short term, medication will balance out the imbalance, and the symptoms will go away. In the longer term, therapy will help permanently repattern the neural pathways.
     
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    yeh i’m at a point where i think it’s pretty damn obvious i’m straight or AT MOST bisexual but like you said my brain won’t let me settle on that.
     
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    Do you used to feel groinal responses? I was on a good streak but i tested today with a naked men and his penis and i always have this feeling in my penis, like its groqing/moving, at some point i got aroused bc while i was doing a scene from a porn appeared in my head. I was shock bc i think it was bc of the men so i did it again and again lol, ends up that i masturbated like 3 times to this men until i stopped and watched a trap hentai, sorry this words if offended someone, is just the name that they use. Do you used to feel this? Or am i the only one tripping here.
     
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    Testing and checking are both compulsions which line up with OCD-like symptoms. Have you ever spoken to a professional about this?
     
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