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Advice for family of an alcoholic?

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by staticinmyattic, May 29, 2023.

  1. staticinmyattic

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    How much celebration is normal when a person gets sober? My brother is an alcoholic, and spent about ten years living hard. He didn't show up to most of the major events of my life, and was disruptive and mean when he did. Our family is financially comfortable, but we're not rehab comfortable. Yet, the money was found to send him to rehab twice. I don't know if I'd describe him now as a non-drinker who relapses frequently or an infrequent binge drinker. Pick your poison I guess. Spending money on sobriety, if not practicing it, has not done anything to improve our relationship. My brother is a mean, scary person, always spoiling for a fight.

    I've the added problem of him being mad at me for not being sufficiently happy for him for getting sober. He talks to our dad about this a lot, and our dad seems convinced that he's got a point. Our dad brings this up to me a lot. It's never specific. He can't tell me what I did or failed to do that demonstrated insufficient celebration of brother's sobriety. Nonetheless, he's convinced that this is the cause of our problems.

    Forgetting the fact that he still drinks, forgetting the fact that he still does all the behaviors that made sobriety seem like the better choice in the first place, is this even a thing? Celebrating someone getting sober? Obviously, it's a good thing. If someone can take control of their life from an addiction, I get why that's a cause for celebration in the general sense. But during both his drinking and his sobriety, he's gone out of his way to say the most hurtful and damaging things he can to me. I'm still nursing those wounds and trying to feel good about myself despite having a brother who parades his loathing for me like its his greatest pride. I don't know how to explain to my dad, much less my brother, that I can't get excited about this. I don't think I owe him anything, and I'm not clear on what exactly I'd be celebrating.
     
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    I don't know if it's ALWAYS the case but from my experience and observations usually drinking is a symptom or a coping mechanism for bigger problems which it sounds like your brother has - anger, violence etc...
    And it does sound a bit much to expect congratulations for getting sober if you're still actually drinking...?!
    (I struggled with alcoholism and anger issues (though not physical violence thankfully) due - in hindsight - to my Anxiety and PTSD)
     
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  3. staticinmyattic

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    Your insight certainly applies to my situation. Our home wasn’t a safe or stable one, which was due in part to our mom’s drinking and mental illness. My brother and I both cope with that lingering trauma differently. My response is to work and study to understand my own trauma in order to interrupt the generational pattern of abuse. My brother doesn’t want to interrupt the cycle so much as come out on top of it.
     
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    Yes i guess I was in a similar position to your brother (I stopped drinking nearly 15 years ago!) Our dad was very violent and angry and I tried to beat my problems by forcing my way through life and not facing any of my problems until I REALLY had to! And my siblings have all dealt with it differently...
     
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    I don't have symphaty for people, who are claiming to be sober, but still drinking and expect others to celebrate it. There were drunkards around my home, since I was little and my uncle who lives with us has a drinking problem and there has been tons of fights in the past, so I never felt safe at home. I hate what alcohol does to people. The only way to deal with it is to set boundaries. You can tell, that you are happy to celebrate him being sober, when he actually is sober. Though this may make them angrier, but you do need to look out for your own wellbeing and you are not responsible for others. If he wants to celebrate then let him, but it don't mean you have to be involved in it, if you don't wish to. If you've decided to become sober, then it means you can't have alcohol anymore and celebrate it with alcohol. There are more healthier ways to celebrate.
     
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    Your whole family (and everyone having a child) should read, "Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents" what a fun time that would be all together :slight_smile:

    Therapy for the underlying issues leading to problem drinking. People can numb with drugs, gambling, sex, video games, porn, etc but the the cause is still there. Treatment for trauma, CPTSD and such sounds like. Healthcare for addiction treatment and other mental health stuff most of us need. He could try the Sinclair Method to see if that curbs his brain's desire for alcohol.

    It's all brain and body chemistry telling us it will make us feel better and want more and more! Willpower is something, but also need to want to change, to be alive and I often don't due to depression. Lots of stuff going on that goes back to dysfunctional life, which many of us had. The next generation does almost nothing to improve their parenting so we're stuck it's super sad.
     
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    Don't enable them by celebrating something that is a ruse. It will be difficult to convince those who don't want to see the denial that comes with that fake celebrating.

    We didn't have this coping issue and big problem in our family. We had other dysfunctional tactics for coping and they also made for big problems. It is frightening to have mean spirited people in one's family who will stir the pot for nothing. It really shakes your foundation.

    I need to get around to reading that. The emotional immaturity in parents comes in so many stripes. You're right that there are all sorts of numbing tactics. Sometimes the roots are the same in a very broad sense, but without getting to the root of the problem, it will be hard to come up with a game plan to try to tackle it. For most people and for most addictions, those are hard things for people to own up to.
     
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    Thanks for all the kind words and sound advice. I took a big step today and e-mailed my dad that I was stepping down as his medical power of attorney. It's part of a larger plan to simplify our relationship so it has a better space to heal. Dealing with my alcoholic brother and my father's unconditional cheerleading for him puts too much strain on me.

    The emotional intelligence and perception of my oldest daughter astonishes me. No matter how private I keep my own emotional struggles, all the way up to refusing to let myself even feel anything until either I'm alone in the house or everyone's asleep, she still knows something is wrong. Hiding the problem doesn't keep my kids safe from it, they're too perceptive. I need to expel it from my house. We've got a good thing going here. Everyone's nice to eachother, and when conflicts inevitably arise, we resolve them so we come out stronger than when we started. The family I'm building is nothing like the family I came out of, and I'm ready to commit myself fully to it.

    The email was brief and contained no explanations. I said that I'm willing to answer any questions he has. Thanks for all the support you rad people. I feel free and refreshed, so I'm going to set about spending my day on what's important to me.
     
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    Maybe a common root is shame heaped on us by family and society, loneliness and no one will talk about it so that makes it hard to own up to. Just like with most Kinsey 1-5 won't own up to it so it maintains, or conserves, the status quo of shame and discrimination about human sexuality. Dysfunctional families hide the addictions, abuses etc. to "look good" to others on the outside, but they're all suffering on the inside. "Don't let anyone know Johnny is a homosexual, gaaasp!!" All of this hiding and shame is toxic in multiple ways which causes more problem behaviors and the dysfunction cycle continues.

    Words like addict and alcoholic have such a negative stigma as if it's always a personal failing. Even the meetings reinforce this, "I'm bad" mentality, forcing people to say, "I'm an alcoholic." No, you're a person struggling with alcohol addiction or alcohol use disorder. (No wonder success rate is very low for them and they don't actually track it since they know how bad it is.)

    Problems or habits with something isn't always addiction and there are different types of addictions. Suddenly stopping alcohol after long-time abuse can cause physical withdrawal complications that people die from. Someone addicted to gambling will not die from being withheld from making another bet. In my experience quitting nicotine is much harder than quitting cannabis, which I suspect is supported by chemistry. There are also ritual parts of habits that can be hard to break in their own ways, especially if good brain chemicals are released.

    Sorry OP I'm on a tangent but it is an important topic and I hope your brother can heal the trauma and has a chance at a fulfilling, healthy life again.
     
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    Do you know if she is highly sensitive? That's what I thought as soon as I read that. I wish my parents had the book on how to raise a highly sensitive child so take a look in case it might be good for you both. It's by Elaine Aron. I'm glad you're working on healthy communication in your family and trying to do better.
     
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