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The worst time of my life

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  1. Sadness

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    Its been 5 years and i’ve never felt so bad and sad, its the worst time if my entire life

    i changed meds, psychiatrists, a lot

    Nobody can help me, theres no one that can help me

    there are moments where i think i should just give up

    instal #######

    have sex with men

    do something i dont think i want to just to find answers

    life’s been the most stressful since the beggining 5 years ago

    wow its been 5 fucking years

    5 years and i dont think there was onde day i went okay, happy and all that

    theres no one that can help me and im okay with it now

    So i decided to quit taking meds and seeking new psychiatrist, since neither of them are working and im wasting a lot of money on something that doesnt help at all

    i will se what i can find, see if i can find a men and kiss him

    try something dk
     
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    First of all I want to send warm hugs your way. I can see all the distress, fear and anxiety and intrusive thoughts you’re having.


    I think you know very well that no matter what we tell you, then you keep seeking answers, without ever being satisfied with any solution.


    The main thing for you would be to find a proper professional who is specialized in the OCD field. Anxiety, fear and intrusive thoughts can all come from having an OCD and trauma and it’s possible to have it, because of having both of them. My therapist told me that my intrusive thoughts come from a childhood trauma.


    It’s possible to manage it. All of this testing won't do you any good. Maybe you can develop a ritual, that whenever you feel like testing you do something else instead, so it would become almost like a routine for you, but it’s important to identify your triggers as well, so you could eliminate the testing possibility.


    If you feel like testing, then for example instead start doing deep breathing exercises and calm yourself down first and maybe even keep a journal, where you write down the date and time and what exactly happened and how it made you feel. It’s a good way to look back and analyze yourself, so you could predict and start calming yourself down and remove yourself from the situation.


    Breathing exercises have helped me, whenever I’m starting to have anxiety and panic attacks.

    More warm hugs your way.
     
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    Yeah i understand what youre saying

    but my last 2 psychiatrists were ocd specialist

    but i dont think they understand me

    Feels like im talking to a stranger who wont be able to help me

    i wish someone would tell me that im gay and i should accept

    but i know i will have a huge ammount of anxiety

    Bc i know i dont want to be gay

    thats the truth and im sad about that

    i wish i could accept if im gay

    But everytime people say i have ocd and i agree

    but i cant seem to accept this fact

    so talking to a psychiatrist just feels like im lying

    i dont know what to tell him exactly

    it feels so weird

    and thank you so much for your hugs and mesage
     
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    Still it's important to continue going to them and if one medicine don't work, then it's important to mention it to your doctor and keep working on yourself too. You need to be consistent. All of this together is important to tackle and withouth any treatment and work, it will only get worse, so please don't stop it, even if it feels like you're lying. You problably need to talk to someone who has went through it all too as well.
    More hugs.
     
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    So sorry you're going through such a bad time. some things to try to keep in mind - sometimes going OFF medication can have side effects that can make you feel even WORSE - be very careful going off meds - preferably ask a doctor about it?
    And bear in mind - sometimes certain meds or certain pyschologists/therapists etc. just don't work for you but another one WILL - it's frustrating and draining having to change and start over with a new person but sometimes you just find one that totally works for you and it can be life-changing...
    I guess I'm saying - don't throw the whole concept of medication OR therapy out because it hasn't been working out for you yet...
    Just my advice because I remember being in a somewhat similar situation years ago...
     
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    Thank you guys, i’ll do my best, i will find a new therapist

    one thing that scares me is that my other few psychiatrists werent able to answer some o my questions

    like, why i feel so aroused by transwoman, amd why i get so aroused when fantasizing anout sucking a transwoman penis, if its because of how much porn i watched or im bi, or i just like transwoman

    or why do i feel tingles and get hard sometimes testing if im not gay and only have ocd

    those questions were never answered to me by them, which gave me a lot of anxiety
     
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    It sounds like the main issue you're worried about is that you feel like you might be bi or gay and you don't want to be, is that right?
    It's totally normal to have a lot of internalised homophobia - we just grow up thinking heterosexuality is "normal" and anything else is "weird" or "wrong" or whatever...
    Maybe you could think about why it would be a problem to be gay - what specific worries you have about it - just as a mental exercise!
    Also I'd say - while enjoying different types of porn CAN be one indicator of your sexuality - it doesn't actually mean anything of itself - see how many straight men enjoy "lesbian" porn!
    I think a lot of straight people fantasize about or watch porn with situations they'll never be in - part of the thrill is that it's a FANTASY - not a reality!
     
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    Yes i can say this is one of my fears, not only that but also the fear of being lying to myself

    i already told here, tons and tons of times all my test routine, how i felt, moments where i disnt feel anything and moments where i got hard, moments when i felt tingles or a feeling in my groin area

    and even after all this, everyone tells me im not gay and its only ocd

    and sometimes i agree because i was never able to masturbate and orgasm to a man

    And i tried a lot of times

    but there are times where i disagree, since i test about sucking a guys dick and i get hard, but i go to masturbate and i get flacid again

    so its not something consistent that i can say for sure and im stuck on this loop

    the same way there are moments that i crave for a vagina and i fantasize about it and masturbate

    and there moments, most of the time now, where i have a bad feeling in my throat while thinking of it

    but i always get aroused by woman when i think about then

    so, those things are confusing, i dont know what is truth or not

    At this moment i can say that transwoman gets me going pretty much all the time

    so yeah its all confusing and i cant confirm any of it

    i dont know if im gay or not

    If you asked me 3 months ago i would say im not

    but now i think i am, bc of the tests

    but everyone tells me i have ocd

    I never had a girlfriend or had sex, so i cant help about it too

    im just too tired
     
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    @Sadness

    Can you tell what were the questions your therapist wasn't able to answer?

    If the question was why do you feel these feelings and are testing, then even if they would have said it's OCD, then they should know, that even, if they answer these questions, then you don't believe them. Even if they give you confirmation about it. It don't necessarily mean that they don't know what they are doing.

    How can people tell you have OCD and why everyone are telling you this? You can figure out by that person is having OCD, just by them typing out that they keep testing. Obsessive-compulsive disorder usually includes both obsessions and compulsions. But it's also possible to have only obsession symptoms or only compulsion symptoms. You may or may not realize that your obsessions and compulsions are excessive or unreasonable, but they take up a great deal of time and interfere with your daily routine and social, school or work functioning.

    Obsessions often have themes to them, such as:

    • Fear of contamination or dirt
    • Doubting and having difficulty tolerating uncertainty
    • Needing things orderly and symmetrical
    • Aggressive or horrific thoughts about losing control and harming yourself or others
    • Unwanted thoughts, including aggression, or sexual or religious subjects

    Examples of obsession signs and symptoms include:

    • Fear of being contaminated by touching objects others have touched
    • Doubts that you've locked the door or turned off the stove
    • Intense stress when objects aren't orderly or facing a certain way
    • Images of driving your car into a crowd of people
    • Thoughts about shouting obscenities or acting inappropriately in public
    • Unpleasant sexual images
    • Avoidance of situations that can trigger obsessions, such as shaking hands

    There's a difference between being a perfectionist — someone who requires flawless results or performance, for example — and having OCD. OCD thoughts aren't simply excessive worries about real problems in your life or liking to have things clean or arranged in a specific way. If your obsessions and compulsions are affecting your quality of life, then it's when it's time to see a professional.

    I also think it's very important to try and learn about OCD as much as you can, so you can take steps living a normal life, even with OCD, which is why I wrote down the symptoms. There are people that do, so it's not hopeless.

    Having any sort of mental illness is tiring and causes distress, so it's especially important to get the treatment and be consistent with taking medication and telling your psychiatrist about any changes or when the medication is not working. If you stop taking them in the middle or take them whenever, then of course it won't be having any effect.

    When I figured out my sexuality, then I didn't look for anyone to confirm it for me. I've never been in a relationship either. I just knew.

    I'm rooting for you to get better. I'm doing research on OCD just for you and others who suffer with it, just so I can advice you guys better. You're not alone. Hugs.
     
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    Another option to consider is that you could be bi or pansexual? You don't really have to choose one gender or another - it's ok to be attracted to different genders!
    I know it's very stressful wanting certainty though. I was very confused earlier in life about whether I was gay or straight because those were the only options I had heard about. The confusion and stress went away when I realised I was bi (actually pan but I use the term bi because more people understand it). And more importantly that it was OKAY to be bi!
    It's also ok to accept the fact that you don't know yet how to label yourself - maybe you're putting to much pressure on yourself to find a label?
    I do understand the stress of not knowing though... Best wishes!
     
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    Yeah, thank you guys you both have great opinions, thanks for sharing

    actually this is exactly what i have been asking my psychiatrists. It’s probably my main problem. The uncertain is what kills me

    so i asks them what they think and they don’t answer. Because it kind weird for a straight guys to get hard even with tests with men, but is also weird a bi or gay guy not be able to masturbate to men when testing or fantasizing

    if it were more specific, i dont think i would be is such a situation

    if i never got hard, like on the beggining of it, 3 years ago, the tests didnt make me feel anything

    but now they do

    but if i didnt feel anything, maybe i wouldnt be testing

    the same with me being able to masturbate to a guy, i cant say if its psychological, supression, or i just dont like guys

    because whenever i get hard, after a while i just get soft again, and most of times where j get hard my heart beat increases and my anxiety too

    but when i get soft i cant get that hard again, but if i do, it goes down again. And when i masturbate i cant orgasm, i already wasted a huge huge time, a lot times trying to orgasm from it

    its so easy for me to ser a hot girl on tiktok and masturbate

    but its not easy to see a naked guy amd do the same

    when i see naked guys i dont get hard

    but when i test mentally, theres a lot of times where i get hard but that cycle repeat, i lose erection and cant masturbate to it

    so, its not clear. If i were able to get hard, keep hard and ejaculate and orgasm i would safely say that im gay or bi, but i cant

    while on the other hand if i didnt feel a weird feeling in my stomach everytime i fantasize about a girl, even getting aroused and hard, and if i were able to masturbate without this weird feelings while fantasizing about licking her i would definitely say im straight

    but its in the middle and i cant say why

    and yeah i can say that all these symptoms i had and still have including some unwanted sexual thoughts

    and yeah i agree with you too, but its the same thing that i said up there, i cannot be sure since i cant masturbate to men, but i could be repressing
     
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    Another thing to bear in mind (if I'm understanding right you haven't had sex with a guy or a girl before?) Is it may be one of those things where, once you have experimented with someone, THEN you'll know?
    In my case I felt like I didn't really know until I'd been with both men and women..
    In fact, to be honest, the first time I was with I guy I didn't get an erection or have an orgasm! (I had an erection all the way to his house and in his lounge room but as soon as we were naked in bed - nothing!) So it's maybe not always an indicator! I think I was probably just too nervous because the next time was fine!
    Also remember (if you ARE bi) there's not always an equal attraction to men and women - personally I find naked women more attractive than naked men (i.e. in pictures or porn) but I sometimes enjoy sex more with men than women (which also changes back and forth over time).
    Just some more thoughts in case they're helpful!
     
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    This is an OCD issue. No matter what anyone says, the person with OCD never believes it, so it brings in the uncertainty.

    Don't ask questions like why, rather ask what you should do in order to heal.

    Withouth treatment or medication you will have less control over yourself, so getting treatment and therapy is the most important thing.
     
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    You can have OCD and be gay. The truth is that people with OCD can be homosexual and have intrusive, compulsive thoughts about their sexual orientation. I believe that everyone feels what really excites and attracts them. I'm sure you know it too. You just have to ask yourself why you keep checking your reactions. What is the reason. Maybe it's the fear of being gay. maybe you're constantly checking yourself to prove to yourself that you're not gay. I'm sure that you know the reason.
     
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    Hi, yeah, great point, i think im gay or bi with ocd, because of what i feel when i test

    Its been a while since i didnt test

    Bit yeah, i feel tingles, movements and even arousal sometimes, and sometimes i even get hard

    but i cant masturbate to it, even if i try my best to do it, i just get soft again

    a lot of things that happened to me points to me being gay or bi i think

    but could i be bi or gay without orgasming to man, only woman?

    and to your question, i think the main reason i test a lot is because im afraid of lying to myself

    like i need to be 100% sure about what iam

    because if not i feel like im lying and i will never be able to have a healthy relationship
     
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    So since my last post, where i said there was a possibility of me being bi and having ocd, for some weird reason i dont know why, i disdnt test for a good whole week, and my arousal to woman grew a lot lot more, to the fact of even noticing how pretty some are and feeling kind attracted to them

    Not testing didnt take long, it was a week, but once i tested again, i wasnt able to get hard, i only had tingles and some movements down there

    the one that made me feel the most of all these was one i had that started intrusive, where anpolice officer was inspecting me and he grabbed my parts, i domt know why i thought of that, but i felt a huge tingles and penis grew a bit until certain point where it got soft again like the usual.

    im really confusing right now, because i should have arousal to men if im bi even if i have ocd

    which makes it even worse to understand if its only ocd or not
     
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    you don't have to be straight to notice that some women are pretty. Every gay man can notice it. Arousal is important to check sexual orientation but loosing erection can be effect of stress and internalized homophobia. Almost all men need stimulation to achieve strony erection. From the other side erection and arousal can be mechanical without connections to real orientation. The most important thing is desire. Real desire, not what you want to desire. I can achieve erection and arousing by stimulation and thinking about everything even a tree but in reality I desire men. You have to be open and fair to yourself.
     
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    you can get nervous groinal response from anything.
    I am going to put this bluntly, and a little crudely. For years I repressed being gay. Even though I didn't want to be, when I masturbated my fantasies would always be about me giving a blow job or having a cute guy give me anal intercourse. I tried and tried and tried to masturbate to girls I thought were pretty and I would just go soft. If i think about giving a cute guy a blow job I can get hard just thinking about it. I read through this and everything seems to be you thinking you might be gay and being worried about it, but no true fantasizing or desire.

    As many people here have recommended, get help for the OCD, no amount of testing or looking for this will help you.
     
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    Oh yeah i got that, but what should i do to lose internalized homophobia.


    Being super clear, whenever im not testing, my desire like you said, its surround woman, there a lot of moments that i check my phone and open tiktok and get arouses so many times by different girls

    when i said that i find girls pretty, there are some that really arouse me too, even if it feels kind wrong to look at them

    but i dont have this with men, everytime i look at a man is because im testing myself, but could this be me lying? Its so confusing because, yes you’re right i need stimulation to get aroused, but when i masturbate to man i get soft, i start having feelings and getting a little harder but after some point it just go soft

    so if it is internalized homophobia, how do i lose it?



    yes I understand too, im looking for a new psychiatrist

    But do you used to get a little hard when tested with woman? Or maybe some arousal or something like this? Even if afterwards you got soft?
     
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    I can masturbate thinking about everything, even pizza and I cum. It physical stimulation. But my desire are men. Thinking about men is natural and spontanous.
     
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