straight people and homosexual porn

You know damn well despite most men being turned off by anything mildly effeminate or with male homosexuality, lesbian relations are accepted and hypersexualized in the straight male hetronormative circuit.

It's also sad, because you would assume that straight women are interested in male homosexuality themes. Not always, it's very rare. Not to the same extent men are with lesbians.

I blame the fact it's okay for women to be sexualized and feminine, yet if a male even hints at swimming in those waters, it becomes a problem, or a show that not that many people, if any show up ot watch.

I know being a gay feminine man myself, it's tough. I know if I were female, most of the stuff I do nobody would care. Being that I'm a man, any relationships I have with men or women are complicated and my life is at risk usually.

It's just a classic double standard that it is no use talking about it. What can you do?

 

Like @Suomi explained, it is not rare for female to be hyper-sexualized and put two hot ladies together (or even not so hot) and it's the cherry on top of the cake. That's why female bisexuality is hypersexualized and fetichized while male bisexuality is taboo.

Straight men have no interest in gay porn simply because they don't find men appealing, in lesbian porn they get to have two (or more!) of their stereotypical hot girls getting it on with each other. Lesbian and bisexual women on the other hand, even though they are attracted to women are less attracted to lesbian porn because lesbian porn isn't usually representative of what lesbian sex is actually like, in most cases lesbian porn is set up and film in a way that's there to attract and appeal to men not LGBT folks. I watch gay porn sometimes and that's because gay porn feels more real, more relatable (even though obviously I am not a guy) so more enjoyable.

There is a lot of taboo about male homosexuality that make most straight people uncomfortale so I am not too surprised to see them stick to more "conventional" porn films.

 

Thing with men is that they are more visual when it comes to porn. Straight men prefer watching porn with women, gay men prefer watching porn with guys. They would not want to look at something that turns them off (gay guys usually don't like lesbian porn either)....

It's almost opposite with women...it's not uncommon for straight women to like lesbian porn or lesbians to like gay porn. That's because we are less visual and care more about environment over what genders are involved.

 

It may not be true for all men or all women, but it's also a common fact backed up by multiple sources. This is where the (incorrect) assumption of female fluidity comes from.

It's no different than saying men have more testosterone and women have more estrogen. Do people with hormone imbalances exist? Sure, but the vast majority of the genders are biologically wired this way and it's 100% a scientific fact. Just because exceptions exist doesn't mean we can erase scientific evidence either.

 

As Creativemind said, it's just the psychological difference between men and women. Men don't see porn as just a video on a screen, they attach themselves to it in their mind. They don't mind watching straight porn because they aren't thinking about the fact that they are watching a naked man also, because in their mind they are the naked man in the situation so it's ok.

With Lesbian porn, again, they imagine themselves being part of it instead of just watching it so they don't care that it's homosexual, as long as they get to see vaginas and breasts it's totally fine, they just imagine being the cameraman watching it in real life.

With gay porn, they are no longer able to imagine themselves in the situation without also imagining themselves being gay, so they dislike it.

As far as I can tell, women don't see it that way, they see the entire situation as it actually exists and don't need to visualize themselves as part of it to enjoy it.

 

Well, I think you can watch whatever porn you want as long as it's not illegal but I can't believe people are saying it's rare for straight women to fetishize gay men. Maybe it's more teenage girls and those in their early 20s but I know heaps who are obsessed with yaoi and gay porn. Or insisting that every fictional character on planet Earth is gay like damn, I actually prefer het ships nowadays. But why does it matter what porn someone watches? It doesn't affect sexuality anyway.

Edit: I don't actually care when men watch lesbian porn…it's made for them and they're into women so obviously they're going to like the idea of two women together. You're never going to change someone else's sexuality so there's no point fixating on it. The only issue is when they can't seperate fantasy from reality or can't keep their fantasies to themselves.

I'm not sure if this is related but I actually did know a gay guy who was a bit obsessed with lesbians and it was annoying because he only wanted to be friends with me after realizing I liked another girl. And I think it was totally innocent and out of curiosity more than anything else. It used to bother me but other people's curiosity is something anyone LGBT is always going to have to deal with

 

It's just a very overkilled question.

I wasn't trying to hurt or disrespect you. I just thought everyone knew the answer to this.

 

Yeah, the only conclusion I've come to is... women aren't so easy to understand, so forget about making any huge generalizations. I could see why a straight woman wouldn't want to watch straight porn, since women are portrayed pretty horribly, and many can't relate to it at all. Seems women actually like being separated from the characters on screen, whereas for men its the opposite (not that its surprising, since its geared towards men).

So I can see why women of many sexualities would be into male-male action: its taboo, its more "authentic", there's less sexism involved, they're attracted to men, so x2 would be better, they don't have to worry about comparing themselves to anyone in the video, there's less fake body parts, etc. It makes sense to me on a theoretical level, even if I don't relate to it at all. I've heard some say that its a way of "taking back" their own sexualities, more so when it comes to writing slash fan fiction, directing, etc.

 

I think you misunderstood her post.

Her post isn't about gender but biological facts. People who are born with a male body have more testosterone than people born in a female body (wether they are a man in a man's body or a female in a man's body) like people who are born in a female body have more estrogen than people born in a male body, those are facts that can't be denied and gender doesn't come into play here. It may not be fair but that's how it works, that is also why trans male take testosterone while trans female estrogen when transitioning, because they need to reverse the hormones their body naturally produce to develop the physical characteristics of the opposite sex. Her post isn't about gender but about biology, and to say that while there are exceptions to the rules (people who suffer from hormonal imbalance for example) facts and studies show that the male body produces more testosterone than the female body. You can't say it's not true because some people suffer from hormonal imbalance or that it shouldn't be like that because some people are trans and they should be able to produce estrogen/testosterone if they want to as it's simply been shown that this is how it works and you kind of have to accept it.

What she meant by the whole thing, I assume, is that YES people should technically be able to watch all type of porn without feeling judged and men should be able to watch gay porn without being grossed out. In an ideal world, this is what would happen, but in the real world it's not what happen as numerous scientifical studies have shown that men tend to stick to what they like (women if they are straight, men if they are gay) while women are more fluid and are less likely to stick to just one category of porn as they can be aroused by more than just straight sex. Is there exceptions to the rule? of course! are those exceptions the majority? No.

It's not about gender roles, it's about scientific studies showing a pattern of behaviours based on a certain category of individuals. It obviously doesn't mean that everyone from that category is like that, but that people from that category are more likely to apply this pattern than others.

 

Exactly what I was trying to say!