1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Finally time to come out?

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by hillwanderer, Sep 18, 2017.

  1. hillwanderer

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Canada
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Some people
    I'm 23. I've known I was some form of queer for over 6 years, since about age 17 when I first started noticing girls. Over time I've defined my sexuality in various ways, from about 50/50 bisexual to now realizing that "attraction" to men wasn't really sexual. Now I consider myself 90-95% gay/lesbian and I just go with the term "queer". I've never come out to my immediate family because they (mostly my mom) are very conservative and Christian and have made many homophobic remarks in the past - stuff about how being gay is against God's plan, "love the sinner, hate the sin," etc. I have also been living at home with my parents since I graduated college because the jobs I've been able to find in what I studied have been a bit sporadic, and housing in my area is expensive. I'm starting a new, permanent job very soon and am looking for a room to rent in the area, but nothing is concrete yet.

    As you can probably imagine, I'm so very tired of having to keep my guard up all the time and hiding a part of myself away, sometimes even lying to my parents, telling them I'm somewhere else when I'm at some sort of LGBTQ event. (Obviously the situation is exacerbated by my living at home, but since I'm trying to save up for a down payment on a home and won't be making a lot even at my new job, I'm in a catch-22 for now.) I do have reason to believe that my mom already has serious suspicions about me. A few years ago she happened to find a blog that I had which featured several photos of an obviously lesbian singer (who I had a big crush on) and even though I vehemently said that I only like her music, she definitely knew. Then a few months to a year after that we had somehow gotten on the topic of gay rights, and I naturally came to their defense in what I felt was a subtle, nonchalant way, and she ended up asking if I knew any gay people or if there was anything I needed to share with her, and that she'd love me no matter what. Again, I vehemently denied it because I was far from ready to come out. I haven't really dated guys, only a long-distance unofficial "relationship" that ended up not working out - never anything official or even in person. I realize that's unusual for someone my age, which is another reason why my parents might already suspect.

    And recently, I've noticed that they have been more restrained when the subject of gay people and same-sex relationships comes up and have refrained from saying anything negative, even somewhat defending LGBT people. For example, someone made a comment to me about how two women were being too affectionate in public and kissing and it was gross, and my mom somewhat apologetically said, "well, maybe it was a little over-the-top.." I know that seems really insignificant, but from someone with a history of openly bashing queer people, it was pretty big. In general, instead of jumping on the "gay people are gross" homophobia bandwagon, both my parents have either been silent or even slightly defensive, which leads me to think they must already know about me and don't want to alienate me further.

    So why am I still so scared to come out when there's some evidence that they already know (or that at the very least, my mom does)? I guess one major reason is that I don't think I'm 100% gay, meaning I'll have to come out as bisexual or something similar, which will only fuel my parents hopes that I'll still end up with a guy and thereby make the whole coming out process seem unnecessary, when in reality, I feel like I'll almost certainly end up with a woman. I really just don't want to label myself as a lesbian on the off chance I do fall in love with a guy and become attracted to him, if that makes any sense. Then my sexuality will be perceived as a "phase" and that I was only choosing to like women for a while. -.-

    If you've made it this far, thank you so much! Has anyone been in a similar situation or able to offer any advice? Does it seem like it's finally time to take the plunge and come out? How do you think I should do so? I know I'll be so incredibly relieved if I do and they take it well, but there's still a big chance that they won't, even if they do already suspect it.
     
    #1 hillwanderer, Sep 18, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2017
  2. Dylan1357

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2017
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    County Durham
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    You go and you come out it's actually only hard the first time or that's how it seemed to me just last week I'd told 2 now that numbers at a whopping 17 people I'm like an open book now. But seriously I don't remember why I worried about it. :thumbsup:
     
  3. I'm gay

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    1,751
    Likes Received:
    809
    Location:
    United States
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    If the only thing really keeping you from coming out to your parents is the proper label, then I would suggest you come out as "not straight" for now. You could tell them that you have attraction to women, but might also have attraction for men, and right now you're just not completely sure. But you know that you're not 100% straight.

    Doing this may help you to release the anxiety of being in the closet to your family without committing to a sexuality that you aren't fully sure of yet.

    I hope this helps. Take care. :gay_pride_flag:
     
  4. Dylan1357

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2017
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    County Durham
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Sorry wrong person
     
    #4 Dylan1357, Sep 19, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2017
  5. Dylan1357

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2017
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    County Durham
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Irrelevant I posted on wrong thread
     
    #5 Dylan1357, Sep 19, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2017
  6. hillwanderer

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Canada
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Some people
    So.. I did it, yesterday.

    It went really poorly at first. I sent a long, very carefully-written and heartfelt email to my mom. I left the house in the morning, then sent it at a time when I knew she was at home. In it I told pretty much everything, how I first started having these feelings around age 17, and for a while I thought I could just pretend they weren't there, and how I'm still not 100% sure of my sexuality but it seems kind of unlikely for me to be attracted to a guy. I came out as "part of the LGBT community". I told her she could also tell my dad, but that it was easier for me to come out to just her first. Her first response was, "This isn't true, and you can't act on it," "God would never make you like this," "This is wrong and you know it," etc. I went into full panic mode because I had obviously miscalculated; they didn't know already. What had I done?

    I stayed away that night and most of today. (I also ended up coming out to my brother, which is another story). When I finally came home, both my parents were there to give me a hug and reaffirm how much they love me, and that that will never change. They're still in denial, saying things about how even straight people have gay crushes sometimes, and I'm confused right now (to be fair, I am semi-confused, but definitely aware that I like women.) It feels awkward having opened up so much, and all at once, since before I was always so closed-off and rarely talked about anything as personal as this. But I can comfort myself with the fact that I faced a tremendous fear and just did it, and I'm still standing. The worst is over. I needed to tell them at some point, and I got it over with.
     
    Dylan1357 likes this.
  7. I'm gay

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    1,751
    Likes Received:
    809
    Location:
    United States
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    I congratulate you on mustering the courage to do this. I know from my own personal experience how difficult that is to do. Well done!

    Not all parents, but most of them do come around, and yours will likely do that as well. It takes time for them to process this news, and to process the "loss" of their straight daughter. Remember, your parents built their dreams for your future as you grew up, and this is a devastating blow to those dreams. It doesn't have to be, of course, because you can get married, have children, etc., but it will take some time for them to realize that.

    Just keep being you, and things will be better. :gay_pride_flag:
     
  8. hillwanderer

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Canada
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Thank you! Yes, I realize how hard it must be for them to suddenly receive the news that their seemingly straight daughter is mostly gay. It must be quite a big loss, or at least seem that way at first, which is why I try not to take it so hard when my mom says things like "You don't have to choose that lifestyle."

    I think overall I will be so much happier living openly and honestly. I had gotten away from Christianity for a while because I felt like there was no place for me as a queer person in most Christian churches, but now I intend to get involved in an LGBT-friendly church nearby, and I told my parents that. I know they still won't be happy about that and would like me to continue going to their church and never act upon my attraction to women, but I'm just following my heart and what I feel God wants for me. I don't believe He wants me to be alone forever.
     
    #8 hillwanderer, Sep 25, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2017
  9. I'm gay

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    1,751
    Likes Received:
    809
    Location:
    United States
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    It does sound like you have your head in the right place, and self-acceptance is the most important part of all of this.

    I've heard the "lifestyle" point many times, as in "I accept gay people, I just don't approve of the lifestyle." Ugh.

    Here's what I say to people who comment about the lifestyle:

    "When you talk about the gay lifestyle, what is that specifically? Anonymous sex? Casual sex? Multiple partners? Spreading diseases? Cheating? Are those the kinds of things you're talking about when you talk about the gay lifestyle? Because each of those things occurs in the straight community much more than the gay community. Straight people have sex anonymously, with multiple partners and treating sex casually. Straight people spread all the same sexually-transmitted diseases that gay people do. How about unwanted pregnancy? The difference is that there are about 9 straight people for every gay person, so just in sheer numbers, the problems you associate with the "gay lifestyle" are so much more rampant in the straight community. How about instead of disapproving of the "gay" lifestyle, you just disapprove of a promiscuous lifestyle."

    I don't know if something like that would help with your mom, but sometimes people need to be challenged on the myths they have learned and accepted as truths. Overall, though, it sounds like you're doing fine - just give it some time.
     
  10. Zoe

    Zoe
    Full Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2013
    Messages:
    539
    Likes Received:
    104
    Location:
    USA
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Hi Wanderer-

    I think you're getting great advice from I'm Gay. I'm glad he's chimed in.

    I also want to congratulate you on facing this hurdle. That's an enormous achievement. That fear you felt has kept many people in the closet far beyond their twenties (myself included). I wish I had had half your self-confidence and self-awareness when I was your age.

    While your parents seem to be still denying that you are not straight, I think it's hugely encouraging that they welcomed you home with open arms when you returned from being away overnight.

    My experience has been very different, as I came out when I was 42. At that point, I was pretty much, "Hell with it. I'm an adult." But I thought of something I haven't thought of in a while when I was reading your post. When I came out to my father and step-mother (over the phone--he lives across the country), there was a long pause. Then he said, "We want you to be happy, but I'm worried you've chosen a very difficult path."

    His concern really wasn't about my being gay exactly--it was that by coming out, I would make my life more difficult. Maybe that's part of what's going on for your parents. I agree that they are grieving the future they imagined for you, but there may be a part of them that's worried for you. Worried that you'll face prejudice or hatred. Or that you'll end up alone.

    It is a big adjustment for your parents, but I think you're handling it beautifully. And I agree--you'll find yourself much happier living an honest life. For what it's worth, after I got through the initial struggle (I was married to a man when I came out), my life has never been better.

    I'm glad you decided to come out to your parents and I wish you luck in this continuing journey.

    Zoe