Some opponents of same-sex marriage claim that everyone is already treated equal under the law, but that gay couples just want "special rights" for their "deviant behavior". This is the most common claim I've seen from people who are against same-sex couples from marrying each other. I'm just curious if what they say is true? I personally don't believe that, but how do you counteract their claim? Now that the Supreme Court is deciding whether or not to make same-sex marriage legal nationwide in the United States, more and more people are trying to prevent that from happening by making some ridiculous claims.
It's not true. I'm a Republican, and I hear this argument all the time when I tell some of the older ones that I support Gay Rights. They know if they flip this into a "us vs them" thing and demonize LGBT, then they still have a chance of keeping gay rights suppressed. Thankfully, it's not working.
The argument is usually that gay people can get a "straight marriage", so they're not denied access to it, therefore asking for gay marriage is asking for something special. The problem is that by that logic, straight people can also get a same-sex marriage if they want to, so it's hardly "special".
:bang:... What "special rights" do we want? This is such a stupid argument. Gay marriage isn't even legal in some countries, in fact being gay isn't legal in some countries and being gay can get you put in prison or killed... The stupidity of some people baffles me.
If by "special rights" they mean the "special rights that straight people are granted and not gays, such as marriage, nondiscrimination, and many other things in which straight privelege runs its course".
You have this so dead on. Sobering on gay rights and managing to draw attention to how badly some poor people get shat upon too. O.O
People against gay rights get on my nerves. Seriously live your own life and leave us alone because we don't want to deal with you in the first place if you hate us. To me they are just butting into people's personal lives and trying to tell them what to do. "Hey stop eating that ham sandwich!" "Why?" "Because I don't like ham." "What's that have to do with me?" "Nothing I just don't like ham!" "But you aren't eating it" "Yeah but I don't like ham." That is basically what these people are doing only with gay marriage and gay rights.
Exactly. But what they don't realize is that forcing a gay person in a "straight marriage" will be completely pointless/meaningless and it'll also be, pretty much, a sexless marriage. Not to mention it's not even fair to the spouse who doesn't know.
Basically that's what happened to me by society. Now my wife is very upset and I'm stuck in a emotionally destroying situation, and all I wanna do is be myself.
I saw this anti-gay ad where "homosexuals can have straight marriage, it's totally fair" was outright stated to be half the point of banning same-sex marriage. If ever there was an example of insane troll logic, there ya go. I think anti-gay bigots are becoming more and more their own caricature.
Same-sex marriage is not a "special right". A straight person could enter into a same-sex marriage if they wanted to...
Ah yes. Equal rights. That's why I have to go to a college in a city where gay is accepted, because my mother is worried about me. That's why I'm terrified of being left alone at family gatherings. That's why my grandfather will most likely disown me and not come to my wedding. That's why I have to constantly worry about getting beat up in the streets because the wrong kids at school find out. That's why I have to get special permission to take someone of the same sex to prom, and have to know my rights beforehand. Ah yes. Sure feels equal. ... On that note, anytime people say we have equal rights and are trying to be special snowflakes, I will promptly respond with a stern "F*ck off".
Characterising individuals or groups as "deviant" shreds the preceding point about equality. If your starting position is that something or someone is deviant, you cannot reasonably propose any arguments about equality. Choosing to use immoderate language in a debate about equality demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about the issue.