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LGBT News Revealed: the hate-filled face of UKIP in Scotland

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  1. paperyostrich

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    UKIP Is in the news again...

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    UKIP Scotland's new energy spokesman is under fire after he accused "selfish" gay people of being "deeply hostile to heterosexuals" and of wanting to "destroy our society".

    Michael Haseler also claimed that politicians in favour of same-sex marriage wanted to "redefine marriage in their own perverse concept of society".

    MSPs last night described the remarks as "beyond the pale" and "poisonous".

    Friday's local government election results confirmed UKIP as a political force in England, with the anti-EU party winning more than 140 council seats and polling an average vote share of 25%.

    This success was in spite of one Conservative Cabinet minister dismissing his party's rivals as a "collection of clowns", as well as allegations that the Tories had been smearing potential UKIP candidates. One UKIP candidate was suspended after photos were published of him apparently making a Nazi salute. Alex Wood, however, claimed he was simply reaching for a phone.

    The party has never made inroads in Scotland and won less than 1% of the vote at the last Holyrood election. Nigel Farage, UKIP's flamboyant leader, admitted recently that Scotland had been a "graveyard" for the party, but insisted it had attracted "some fresh talent".

    One of the new recruits is Haseler, who in the past has been a candidate for the Scottish Greens and the Liberal Democrats in England.

    He joined UKIP in March and was recently appointed as the Scottish wing's energy spokesman.

    On his personal blog, Scottish Sceptic, Haseler claimed to be "an agnostic on man-made [global] warming" and also aired his views on same-sex marriage.

    He wrote: "Why would these polticians [sic] seek to destroy the family unit and asset [sic] their illegitimate power to redefine marriage in their own perverse concept of society?"

    He continued: "Why are gay people so selfish that they cannot see the benefit of long-term couples for the many people who are not gay? Why are they so hostile to hetero-sexual couples - that they feel they have to destroy marriage and replace it with McDonald's plastic-relationships one-size fits everyone 'marriage'."

    Haseler, who wrote the blog entry around a month before joining UKIP, described civil partnerships as a "great idea", but claimed: "I didn't realise that gay people are actually deeply hostile to heterosexuals. Perhaps that is because of the way they have been treated, but personally, I've become less sympathetic to gays, the more they try to destroy our society - the society that gave them the right to be proud of themselves."

    He concluded: "My belief is that this is just another group of zealots who are doing no real good for most of the people they claim to represent who have yet again got the ear of the idiots in parliament and are yet again railroading their idiotic ideas through parliament."

    In a blog discussion with Mike Scott-Hayward, the chairman of UKIP Scotland, Haseler also criticised the party. He said: "It's too late for me to say this politely, but your economic policy sucks. It's all motherhood and apple-pie and I see nothing there that gives me any confidence that the policies will improve the Scottish economy (perhaps because it wasn't actually written for the Scottish context?)."

    Speaking to the Sunday Herald, Haseler said his blog comments on same-sex marriage were "personal positions" aimed at "gay activists".

    He said: "I was putting it there [the blog entry] to provoke discussion. People have to consider other points of view. I am pro-marriage. I am not against homosexuals." :roflmao:

    Green MSP Patrick Harvie said: "This is an extraordinary rant from someone who appears to have some quite confusing 'issues' to deal with - UKIP's candidates have compared same-sex relationships to child abuse, called for new homophobic laws, and suggested that gay people should be 'cured' by PE lessons. Mr Haseler is clearly aiming to fit right in."
    Drew Smith MSP, Scottish Labour's social justice spokesman, said: "These comment are beyond the pale and the leadership should distance themselves from this man if they have - aspirations of making an impact in Scottish politics."

    Scottish LibDem leader Willie Rennie said: "I think Mr Haseler will find that the real hostility will be directed at him and his poisonous and divisive views about equal marriage. Scotland is a modern, tolerant nation."

    Well, UKIP is becoming very popular and is even being referred to as the "4th party" of the UK. Just so you know, they are also very anti-gay in marriage and what seems like everything else. Yep. Britain is doomed. :eusa_doh:
     
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    There was nothing surprising about most of the title except for 'wait, UKIP actually operate in Scotland?!'

    Fortunately, UKIP appeal almost solely to little Englanders who are often ignorant enough to use England and Britain synonymously.

    Don't worry. Now that they're getting bigger, they will be under more scrutiny and their questionable policies, or lack of policies altogether, will soon shine through.
     
  3. Bobbybobby99

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    Nice placed laughing face insert, by the way. The policies shown by this party make me want to vomit. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:ride: that Guy infuriates me. Heck, the article itself described him as flamboyant for goodness sakes. He can go :***::***::***: for all I care.
     
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    UKIP Scotland?????

    That must be a small party lol

    Well its not surprising, they are a party run with closet racists, homophobes and the like. Links to the far right as well.

    All this "Family Values" bullshit is chillingly like the same stuff the US Republicans spurt
     
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    Small? They are growing big time. In Scotland they're nothing to worry about, but accross the border, they left with 25% of the vote in the local elections. Even a few of my friends support them even though I begged them not to:help:
     
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    Didn't Hitlers party start of this small at the begging!
     
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    I know the England and Wales wing has skyrocketed, but the Scottish wing has nothing
     
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    Rejoice. Could do Yes Scotland a favour?
     
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    No

    Most people know that UKIP are not going to get any real MPs and the next election will most likely produce a Labour majority so I doubt it will do Salmond's ego any favours.

    UKIPs popularity is nailed in the South of England specifically, the North is very much like Scotland and belongs to the left, you don't see the North of England wanting to break away do you?

    Anyway SNP aint as Liberal as they would have you believe, they LGBT proposals are seriously lacking Salmond's lot are too close to the like of exCardinal O'Brien , Scotland is actually behind England and Wales on this one.
     
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    wasn't the PE thing in another thread?

    side comment:
    the second news on EC I've saw that includes UKIP...
    BUT WHY DID I THINK OF MUDKIP? at least mudkip looks cuter
     
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    The three main political parties in Scotland are The Labour Party with 41 MP's (In the house of commons) and The Scottish National Party with 6 MP's both Social democratic progressive parties and The Liberal democrat Party with 11 MP's, The Conservative Party has only one MP, UKIP don’t have any fraction of a ever winning a seat in Scotland, its heart will probably always remain red.
     
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    UKIP are the BNP in disguise. At least the BNP aren't pretending to sell equality. They let you know they hate the blacks, gays and Muslims! Except that to support the BNP is like waving a big flag saying I am a Nazi. However UKIP just hide their homophobic and racist rhetoric with big words. They manipulate people by telling them what they want to hear. Imagine you are jobless, and your child is playing truant. If UKIP tell you that the reason you don't have a job is because there are too many Polish people in the country and that schools are not educating children effectively by teaching about homosexuality......then you believe them. You believe them because its easier than the reality of your situation. You vote for them because you think they can get you a job and they can straighten out your child.