...they openly spoke against homosexuality based on religious (Christian to be specific) reasons? For example, lets say someone, knowing your gay, told you "Now that you are openly homosexual, you are going to burn in hell forever unless you repent and change your sinful ways". I guess that might be an extreme example, but its an example haha. Im looking for basically little pre-memorized blurbs to re-call if and when this happens, because it is bound to happen to most people at one point or another. I think its a good idea to have something prepared to stand up for your beliefs, while keeping it clean and respectful of course. So what do you think, whats a good way to word a response to a negative Christian comment on your sexuality without being mean to the person or his or her faith? No, this did not happen to me, but im worried it will soon with one friend.
I would say I did not choose to be gay. That is how I was born. This being the case how can god consider it me a sinner for something I have no control over.
if you cant ignore them, tell them that hell is a belief, and you dont care if they believe in it cause you dont. simple things to refute them should work.
What he said! I like that a lot actually. Hell and Heaven are just beliefs. I personally don't believe in either. So how can you tell me i am going to a place in which i do not think exists?! I've used something like this before with my dad. He wanted to take me to counciling at his church to "de-gayify" me. I told him i would go but it wouldn't have any effect on me because the counsiling would be all christian based and since i'm not religious it wouldn't apply to my way of thinking. He was none to pleased but it got him off my back. :icon_bigg
There's ignorance on both sides. . . .unfortunately Maybe "How can someone with such strong beliefs in God and love be so ignorant towards something beyond control?" or something of the sort. . .
Either a resounding FUCK YOU or laugh and walk away. These people aren't worth arguing with, and aren't worth your time. Just don't even bother with them unless they physically harass you.
i'd take the cross that i have around my neck and ask why it hasnt burned an imprint into me yet. lol people that think like that are just plain messed in the head
Whatever happened to God has unconditional love?Which means that no matter who, or what you are, what you've done,and the mistakes you make shouldnt matter.I have grown up in a christian home since I was little and have always been told that God has unconditional love. So it doesnt seem right if someone says, "oh ur gay? ur going to hell.." this is clearly hypocritical on christians. Dont tell people that God loves them, and be like "oh, except you.." it doesnt work like that.
Personally, I would try not to get in an argument with them over it. Especially if you're like me and would get in too deep. I would say, "I don't judge you because of your religion/views, so why are you judging me?" and that one of my biggest pet peeves is when people force their religion/views on other people. Or if that doesn't work, "Accept me as I am, or lose me as a friend" You know where that's from Greggy.
Hmm, thanks I like that. I think ill tuck that one away from when its needed. ...but honestly some of the responses are kinda, eh, not the *most* respectful thing i could reply with to someone haha. "Fuck you" does not tend to leave the convo on a good note. But thanks for the input anyways guys.
Romans 14 The Weak and the Strong 1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written: " 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.' "[a] 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. 13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men. 19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall. 22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. Long story short, I have faith that I am living my life correctly. How I live my life is between God and myself and I do not recognize their self asserted right to judge me.
Starfish, i could just HUG YOU TO DEATH right now (*hug*)(*hug*)(*hug*) Tytyty I really like the first few verses about not judging others. Its all nice and dandy to say that, but unless you have the verses to back it up these people dont listen!
Either "fuck you" Or just laugh at them I can't stand religion, especially when other people impose their beliefs on others.
Lychee, is exactly perfect. people who need to believe in heaven or hell need to keep their system off other people who do not. so be nice or keep it to yourself. there are no excuses for being mean to someone, not even religion, or faith or whatever.
If you tell someone whos religious to "fuck off" all it does is re-enforce there stereotype of you being a "wicked sinful gay". It really bugs me every time someone tells a religious person to just "fuck off" because i would never say that to them, but when it happens to them they assume im going to do the same based on my sexuality alone. People who cling to stereotypes will take anything they can get to re-enforce it and blow it way out of proportion.
It's true that all it does is re-enforce the stereotype, but frankly anyone who thinks that gays are "wicked" and "sinful" is not worth my time. Sometimes I tell them that only "god" will judge me and that surely they're contradicting their religious beliefs. And, when I feel bored, sometimes I choose to get into a deep religious argument. So, so funny. I know, I know, I shouldn't mock them but it's just so delightfully tempting
I'd generally reply with something like: "Do I have to pay for my own airfare?" or "Oh goody! Sounds like fun!" Or "Oh I needed a holiday!" something like that.
