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which one is correct? (english lesson)

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  1. edy

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    If I had waken up earlier, my teacher would had l led me in

    or....

    If I had gotten up earlier, my teacher would have l led me in
     
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    The second one is correct. If I had gotten up earlier, my teacher would have let me in.

    The verb to lead (led) isn't quite the right verb you are looking for. Let fits much better.

    Also, the first sentence seems to have a few words in the wrong order:slight_smile: And had is the wrong tense of have. Even though it is in the past, you say "would have" rather than "had".

    English is tricky :slight_smile:
     
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    I thought led was the past tense of let
     
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    Nope :slight_smile: Led is the past tense of lead.

    Let is more of "to allow" or to cause something to happen.
     
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    oh thank you! So, I'm not so bad after all ^^
     
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    Let's take a look at both sentences.

    If I had waken up earlier, my teacher would had l led me in.
    If I had gotten up earlier, my teacher would have l led me in.

    In the first, the past participle of the verb "to wake" is "woken". The past participle "gotten" is correct in the second sentence. The use of the word "I" in both sentences is unnecessary (unless you are trying to convey another meaning). Since the first person singular pronoun is the direct object, the pronoun should be "me", not "I", and since you already have written "me", there is not need for the word "I" in the both independent clauses.

    The (irregular) past participle of "to lead" is "led", so you are correct, and if you were trying to use the past participle of "to let", which is more customary in this situation, you would use "let", a regular past participle, instead.

    I hope this helps. :icon_bigg
     
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    thanks ^

    I made a mistake, I didn't mean to write the word "I" again lol
     
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    Neither example is English you would likely see in native use.

    Additionally, inferring from the context of the sentence, I think the wod you want is 'let' (as in, 'allowed or permitted') rather than 'led' (as in, 'guided')

    If I'm reading the context correctly, a better example would be:
    If I had awakened earlier, my teacher would have let me in.
     
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    I'm not sure if it matters what time you wake up or get out of bed. What matters is what time you *arrive* to class.

    Are you learning English, Edy? If so, there's a rule about ending sentences in prepositions (words like in, over, behind, under). We're not supposed to do that... although many do!

    An alternative I'd suggest is, "If I had arrived earlier, my teacher would have admitted me into class."
     
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    I always mess up the tenses, too. xD
     
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    [Grammar_Nazi] This is not true. Latin has a rule that forces prepositions to precede the prepositional object. However, English is not Latin. See this blog for more details.[/Grammar_Nazi]


    This sounds very stiff. It's as if the teacher is at the door inspecting your passport and other documents and then decides if you are allowed to proceed.
     
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    I would've gone for "If I had woken up earlier, my teacher would have let me in.' But then my teachers always had a thing about using got/gotten/get etc when it could be substituted with something else.
     
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    Same for me. Maybe it's a British thing? :slight_smile:

    The word gotten is definitely out of order in the UK. Most English teachers here regard it as an American corruption of the language and would mark you down for using it. Personally, I would substitute the word let with allowed.
     
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    Oh definitely if it was meant to be more formal. Although it is reasonably formal sounding imo by not using I'd or would've - so, doing well :slight_smile:
     
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    If I had awakened earlier, my teacher would have let me into the classroom.

    One cannot leave that pesky preposition dangling. To begin with, it's a rather awkward sentence. It would make more sense by adding an explanation such as this:

    If I had awakened earlier, I would not have been late, and my teacher would have let me into the classroom.
     
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    So how would you say the entire sentence?
     
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    I forgot to mention that "gotten" is usually only used in North America, especially in the US. It's sometimes heard here in Texas, but if you want your language to be more universal, you can use the word "got" instead of "gotten". Most Americans won't even notice. (What they will notice is the spelling of "colour", "favourite", etc.)
     
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    "Gotten" is also not used in South African English. We use 'got'.
    For the sentence though, we would say: "If I had woken up earlier, my teacher would've let me in."
    Gotta love languages :slight_smile:
     
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    "If I had gotten up earlier, my teacher would have let me in." is fine.
    "If I had woken up earlier, my teacher would've let me in." is much more natural I think.

    Even better though, would probably be, "If I had gotten here sooner, my teacher would've let me in." "Gotten here" or "arrived" make more sense in the order of events. First you wake up, then you go to school, then you meet your teacher. In your sentence, it feels like there is a step missing.


    For everyone else, in the case that you've never experienced English as a Foreign Language, it's always American English, they use "get up" and never "wake". They also don't use compound verbs (wouldn't, I'm, etc.) even though they teach them. :/
     
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    Woken would have been the correct word to use...