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Tips on coming out to mostly christian friends and family?

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by avawava555, Aug 22, 2024.

  1. avawava555

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    I have recently realized I’m bi and I live/come from a very heavily christian community. Most if not all of my friends are heavily christian, some have shown signs of homophobic tendencies and some seem to be “comfortable”. I am out to my mom who was minorly accepting (christian) little brother ( doesn’t really understand) and two of my friends (not christian & gay). My whole family (cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents) are also christian and very judgmental towards people in the queer community. I know I don’t have to come out to them but I would like to eventually so I can feel comfortable around them. Also I haven’t come out to my very best friend of over 10 years because I’m scared that things between us will change. Please respond with tips if anyone has experienced something similar, yes I know it’s a tale as old as time.
     
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    Hi, avawava!

    Where are you from? I'm from a christian family as well. In my experience, it was hard to come out to them. In Spain the average level of tolerance towards gay people on christian families is higher than in other countries or cultures... but that depends on the christian community. It goes from complete tolerance to relative tolerance ("Live your life, I accept it, but don't make it public as I don't agree with it") and to total opposition. My mother is christian and I know she struggles with the idea of my homosexuality... but because she doesn't want me to suffer and, in fact, she doesn't understand it. That's the consequence of her christian education. The day after I came out to her, she asked me to go praying to the church with her. There she began crying: fear for my future, misunderstanding towards my sexuality...

    It was hard. I have no tips: I don't think they exist. What I learnt is that the main point is to understand that you are first. Of course, that comes from the position when you can deal, both emotionally and in your "material" life, with the notion of losing abd winning. You will keep whoever loves you, and you will lose whoever puts conditions to their love. But your sexuality is never a condition. Come out when you are ready, when you have come to terms with both aspects in your life.

    But, at the same time, keep in mind that there's no ideal moment to come out. At the end, you do it when your mind is strong enough to carry with whatever fate could put in your way. And that's the moment when you grow up to realize that you are important, you are first on your life.
     
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    i don have tips but thi# place is a great place to be ur self it helped me so much already i have the same problem minus th3 church stuff but someone will def help u figure stuff out
     
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    avawava555…..I usually catch people when they make their first post in the "Welcome Lounge" but I missed you there, so I'll catch back up to you here! :old_rolleyes:

    …..Hello and a big LGBTQIA+ welcome to Empty Closets! :old_smile: I can remember the first post that I made on EC. I was desperate for help and I got the help that night that I so needed. I hope that we can help you in the same way that I received help. The most important thing to remember about Empty Closets is that we do care about you! We're very glad that you found us here on EC and hope that we can answer questions, give you support and provide a place to vent (as long as it's not violent! :old_wink: ) when that becomes necessary! This is a safe community of loving, caring and very supportive people and we will do our best to help you blend into the community.

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    ****In particular you may want to check out the forum that is titled “Sexual Orientation”, there are people there who may have dealt with some of the same kind of issues that could be challenging you.

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    Welcome to EC. It's always nice to know i'm not the only Texan here lol.

    From my observations, anyone who is either very religious or political has very ingrained beliefs. Which is not a bad thing. However, they usually are very narrow minded and abrasive to anything that opposes or challenges their beliefs. So if you're going to tell your extended family there is not really a chance to change their minds or persuade them to alter their perspective. They'll either accept you or they won't. That's just the risk we all take coming out.

    You can't control or persuade them, but you can control yourself and the situation. Since you're 14, I would imagine if you came out most of your extended family would go straight over your head and address your immediate family with their opinoins, instead of you. Make a game plan with your family about how you will handle it together, or better yet tell them to direct all their questions and judgement to you directly. The less people involved the less drama there will be. Control the narrative and flow of information.

    secondly, be prepared for many personal questions and biased opinions. Don't let them get a reaction out of you, be firm in your resolve, and know when to walk away if it's clear the conversation isn't going anywhere. Your only objective is to come out of the closet, and the rest of it is up to them to accept you or not.

    Thirdly I would suggest you should wait until you're at least 18 to come out to your extended family.( but the decision is totally up to you). It will be a lot easier to fly under the radar until you can provide for yourself without them potentially giving you grief. Your immediate family already knows and accepts you, and that's what matters most. Focus on you and discovering and falling in love with yourself first before anybody else.
     
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    I don't think you should worry about your extended family for a while, but maybe telling your best friend is something you should think about as the next step. Age is on your side though, I think. The only thing is, you need to be sure you can trust her (I'm assuming she's also a girl) not to out you to anyone else.
     
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    If you are under the age of 18, I agree with others here that it is a good idea to wait until then to come out to extended family. I would go a step further and give yourself time to explore things in college, too. Since you are bi, there is a chance you may get in a relationship with the opposite sex, in which case you may not even need to deal with coming out at all.

    I know this may not be what you want to hear, but coming out is tough, even under the best of circumstances (i.e. without religious judgment). If you are in high school, I would focus on school, having fun with friends, joining clubs or sports or whatever extracurriculars you enjoy. There is no harm in waiting on this and seeing where life takes you. Best of luck in your journey.
     
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    avawava.....What you are dealing with can be seriously difficult...I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. The biggest problem is that it's very hard to change someone's mind when they have made their decision based on emotion rather than facts. It's best not to say that to a Christian as they won't react well to it...believe me I know as I am a Christian myself. Yes! There are gay Christians, even though some people think that's impossible...it's not. I'm going to give you a link to a really great site that explains why the Bible does not, yep, does not condemn homosexuality. I think it may help you at least understand why a person can be gay and also be a Christian.
    https://www.gaychurch.org/homosexuality-and-the-bible/the-bible-christianity-and-homosexuality/ View The Article: "The Bible, Christianity, and Homosexuality" That will give you access to a 5-star explanation of why the Bible DOES NOT condemn being gay.
    .....David :gay_pride_flag:
     
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