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General News The Election of Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by DragonChaser, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. DragonChaser

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    I haven't really noticed anyone mention this, so I figured I would speak about it.

    EC's pretty quiet anymore, and I understand if no one wants to consider this or focus on it, due to the pain it causes, however I want to say something, have some record of at least one of us speaking their piece about it.

    As I write this, Donald J. Trump is the president-elect, meaning he will take control of the White House come January 6th, 2025. He has aligned himself with many conservative figures who, during his run, co-authored a wishlist for his administration named "Project 2025."

    The language of this document makes it abundantly clear that the LGBTQ+ Community is to be considered an enemy of the state, a threat to modern families, and our rights redundant, if not our presence corrupting and in need of regulation.

    They intend, by their document's own words, to end same-sex marriage and heavily restrict if not outright ban all forms of gender-affirming care, if not for everyone then for all minors, unilaterally.

    Furthermore, there is an express intent to classify all expressions of romantic and/or sexual preference, and gender expressions, that do not conform to traditional, notably Christian standards as obscenity, specifically pornography.

    Pornographers, under the full mandate of Project 2025, would be considered eligible for the death penalty, as allowing minors to possess any form of pornography would be classed as grooming/pedophilia. To put it most simply, if you do not behave as your assigned gender and adhere to heteronormativity, you could be put to death for it by the state.

    Whether or not this will truly happen, I do not know. I think it is extremely unlikely, and was a political tactic to distract or appeal to the right people, however it is also clear that profound restrictions on our right to live as queer people will be forthcoming in the following decade/s.

    What we must do in order to sustain ourselves through these years of strife is to find community locally. Begin to build relationships and trust and learn to contribute time to local causes and charities. Find people you trust who you know would stand by you and start gathering resources and even growing food together.

    There really isn't any alternative right now, either. Gather up what you can, and find your community. Maintain it, nurture it, and keep yourself as healthy and safe as you possibly can, every single day.

    We've weathered storms before, we can do it again. Our forebearers and siblings at Stonewall and beyond are here with us now. Their strength is with us, and their will to fight remains strong today. They would not want us to give up, and I will honor them by fighting on in their name and the names of all those who've fallen.

    I will fight on for all of us, past, present, and future.

    Please, and I mean for all of our sake, join me!
     
  2. Ran

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    The first time I heard that he won hit me with disbelief. Then I sobbed and was an anxious mess. This is very unusual for me that an election affects me so much, especially the one that takes part in another country (what don't mean that I think it don't affect me. It absolutely does. If not directly, then at the very least indirectly. It already does as it makes me deeply worried and anxious).

    I already have anxiety over living right next to the terrorist country Russia. I don't feel safe. It's no longer a matter of if. It's a matter of when. The Baltics will be the first ones, if Putin wins in Ukraine. And I and my family will be sitting ducks. We won't be capable of running away elsewhere. We do have British soldiers here already. There are some good things, like denying Russian citizens being able to vote. It also shows you what party is more Russian oriented. It feels similar to when we Estonians were always mistrusting towards Russia and only a few other countries believed us. Only when Russians showed their true colors, then others started seeing what we saw more. I hope this happens with Trump as well, just I hope it happens before it's too late, but seeing as people still voted, when they saw what happened the last time he was in power makes my faith waver.

    Beside being worried of war here, then I'm worried about lgbt+ people in there. I have also friends who are Chinese and Puerto Ricans. They are some of the kindest people I've ever met online. I'm also worried of all the women, children and about the education what will be incomplete. Children who don't know what to do, when you get your period or what a condom is. It's even a taboo topic now in some places. Above everything I am worried over accessibility of healthcare for women and lgbt+ people. It's all truly horrendous.

    I agree that staning as one with your community is important, but also supporting those who are weaker and easilly influenced is just as important and educating others continuously. Violence only brings forward more violence and fear causes more fear and that is exactly what I think Trump wants. I have been comparing Trump to Putin, what I can't help it, because to me they seem similar. Both cause fear and uncertainty.

    Media together with misinformation overpowers the fear and uncertainty too, so always look for news from multiple sources and compare them, find the common keywords, because even news can be onesided.

    Most of all do not forget to care for yourselves during these scary and uncertain times. Try to find some joy in the little things.

    Also don't be too trusting of someone who might advocate themselves as safe space on social media. Approach with caution. Sometimes people who need to advertise themselves as safe space might not be safe at all.
     
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    The backers of Tump have a plan: "Project 2025. I'll put the link at the bottom to the actual document, i think it's about 900 pages. Here's an excerpt from an Advocate article on the conservative plan of action. Whether of not it will happen, and how much, remains to be seen. But there is a decided effort in this country to destroy LGBTQ+ people. ill link the actual document as well so one can see it for their self.

    "It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’” Accountable.US notes.

    The next Health and Human Services secretary, Project 2025 recommends, should reverse what it calls a focus on “‘LGBTQ+ equity,’ subsidizing single-motherhood, disincentivizing work, and penalizing marriage, replacing such policies with those encouraging marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.”"


    https://www.advocate.com/politics/project-2025-anti-lgbtq

    https://www.project2025.org/policy/
     
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    Project 2025-I can't see Donald Trump reading 900 page document, but evil people like Steve Bannon and Kevin Roberts are the people to fear. Donald Trump needs to pick his cabinet for his administration to implement the 2025 project those that are too extreme won't get approved by congress. The filibuster is still around in the senate to block most extreme appointments for cabinet positions. Need 60 votes instead of 50 for supreme court justice. I know John Thune or Mitch McConnell not interested losing senate seats on the 2025 project.
     
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    I don't see Project 2025 happening its all just talk.
     
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    I believe anything from him. I rember the last time he was president. He's been seen as threat to human rights, even by the human rights assosiation. I think it's better to keep an eye on this all rather than fall into false sense of security that nothing will happen. His full campaign is filled with loopholes and some things he promises are something that you can't fulfill. Even the less extreme things will go bad, if not implemented well.
     
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    About the only silver lining I see at the moment, is Trump's history of firing people left and right and the general incompetence his last administration had.

    Things are going to suck for a while, but please don't fall into despair.
     
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    It's bad news for women, for trans people, for the LGTBQ+ community, for Ukraine, for Gaza, for the future of our planet, for unions, for ordinary people, for democracy, for justice, for all of us, really, other than the billionaires who will surely enjoy the tax cut he will provide them with.

    I still can't get over the fact that 73 million people knowingly voted for a convicted criminal and rapist.

    I wish I had your blithe confidence, Jake. I suspect that you will soon find out that the far right are as ruthless, as heartless and vindictive as they were in the 1930s, indeed as they've always been.

    Beth
     
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    Thank you @DragonChaser for starting the thread. I’m also a part of other online forums which have also slowed down in recent years. I believe this is due to people spending more of their screen time on social media.

    I also believe social media has played a part in creating echo chambers of people thinking all the same. I saw many young male “influencers” who would boast about their Christianity and supporting Trump. I also saw a lot of my leftist friends say that the tragedy in Gaza meant they would not vote for Harris. It reminded me of the Bernie Sanders supporters who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016.

    Project 2025 threatens the safety and dignity of all LGBT+ Americans and the global community. I agree that we as a community need to help support the most vulnerable members, especially kids who are have to deal with intolerant families. Let’s not forget same-sex marriage across the US has only been legal for 9 years: there are still many straight people who want to enforce a strict gender conformity. It’s up to queer people and straight allies to show there is a better path that respects our true human diversity.
     
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    Trump picked Matt Gaertz for AG its all grift going on here. Trump is like Al Czervik he Rodney Danger character in caddy shack as loves dysfunction and chaos. Trump is trolling senators offering RFK to Tusli Gabbard cabinet positions he knows these some of these nominations will fail its all by design!
     
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    "You can't fit a square peg in a round hole." They don't want to acknowledge that people are, by their very nature, different from each other.

    The Project 2025 mantra has much narrower boundaries. I think they'll get some of it, but not most of it. I also think that there will be a McCarthy era type of wave. It's all creepy.

    I am not so sure if this would have happened with garden variety Republicans, but there seem to be fewer of them. Maybe this chaos will cause the pendulum to swing the other way in the future because this era will be so disconcerting for most people. I can only hope so.
     
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    One question: where's the opposition, the resistance, where are the people standing up to this disgusting egregious bully?

    The Democrats? The media? Other countries' heads of state? It's like they're all cowering, hoping the bully won't pick on them.

    FFS show some courage, some fight! Trump himself is utterly predictable. What's revolts me most of all is the pathetic quiescence of all and sundry to this out of control nutcase.

    Beth
     
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    I've seen many places mention they think we're being baited into "making ourselves a threat." Others are being censored. There's been no headlines about the anti-ICE protests in LA.

    Last but not least, I think Canada imposed a tarriff on the US after orange idiot threatened to do that to them.
     
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    This was such an inspiring post, thank you for sharing DragonChaser :innocent:

    Even though I'm typing this from the UK, I can kind of see how these 'Trumpian' tendencies could, potentially, reach here as well.
    As for the use of the death penalty in the US, I'm following the news and signing petitions to stop executions and, from what I understood, new legislations are already underway to extend the use of death penalty, including some initiatives to make it much harder for inmates to be considered as one living with mental health challenges. Really sad to read.


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    Its weird to think that I almost miss the time we had before trump came into office. At the time, I thought nothing could be worse than all the unknowns. But honestly, the reality is so much worse. The amount of homophobia and transphobia circling around is at a level that I would have thought would be taboo by now. I recently got in an argument with a random trump supporter on Quora (I know, I really need better hobbies) who called me a "rainbow tit baby" and "psychopath" for saying that Trump's decision to bar trans people from the military was wrong. The policies themselves are awful, but the environment that they are creating is what we can never erase. I hope that all of you here in the US are able to find some safety and solace in these very dark times.