General News Terrorist attack on French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo

Yeah like I said in my post, this is not a Muslim thing, nor a religious thing. No one should use their religion or personal beliefs to harm or judge others.

As for the confusion in the news, the last info in the French news (I'm currently listening) is as follow: 1 of the suspects (the 18 year old) gave himself in and says that he is innocent because he was at school. The other 2 suspects are still to be caught. None of the suspects were killed. Police investigated all night and they are currently interviewing 7 people.

 

I could kiss you right now.

While there are some people in here and probably in world like to link those terrorist attacks to my/our religion and ask for us to apoligize for something we didn't even think as Islam/Muslim but solely see as terrorism.

This is exactly how we see it. It is just simple act of terror. We also have our share of IS or back in day El Kaide related attacks/acts however they are strongly opposed and faded away fast.

I hope one day people will learn to tell the difference between group of people (be it a religious group, racial group or any other "minority") and terrorist groups/terrorism.

I usually stay away from those religion sensitive topics but just stopped to thank you and others who showed similar attidute like you. (*hug*)

 

We just had our minute of silence. Everyone has been really affected. Candles lit, or post-its spelling out "I am Charlie" on the windows. It felt very surreal. I'd never experienced anything like it.

I posted in the previous thread. This is our biggest (deadliest) terrorist attack in ages. We're not used to this. Fear just became very real to a lot of people in Paris.

And no one here has been making it about religion. People have been really great about it, standing up and proclaiming freedom of speech and press. I saw this somewhere: "They wanted to bring France to its knees. They only got us to rise." There's a lot of sadness and anger, but what has really struck me -- and I'm not the only one -- is that there's a sort of awful beauty in it.

 

To discuss the topic without mention of religion is to not discuss it..

So this is a thread just for people to drop in and say how appalling they think it is, as if we might have assumed they felt otherwise, well that will be interesting

 

Fixed that. Islam didn't do this, religious extremists did.

This was a horrible act of terrorism, and I feel for the members of the publication who died and their families.

 

Rest in peace, those that have passed, best wishes to their loved ones, and all those in France terrorized by this tragedy.

 

Good for them! They shouldn't back down to terrorists. If they do, then the terrorists win!

I hope all goes well for them.

 

I can understand being upset by the mocking of someone's faith, even as an atheist. I'm not going to say it's happened to me, exactly, but being upset is understandable. But going as far as murdering people? No. Mocking shouldnt have to cause the execution of people. Mocking shouldnt have to cause the silence of people.

 

We don't have to make this discussion a polar one; we can criticise the magazine for its offensiveness, but by no means can we say that the murderers were justified in any way or that it was righteous cause to consider provocation. These fundamentalists were not part of the discussion between everyday Muslims, Jews and other members of French society who feel that the magazine went beyond satire into racial and religious mockery without cause. They were murderers, who felt that they had the backing of God and the Islamic world in trying to crush any sort of opposition in the most violent way, and had the cowardice to do so in cold blood.

They were unspeakably evil in a way that a callous magazine doesn't come close to. But I would prefer we not make perfect martyrs out of the magazine. This isn't angels against demons. This is the despicably evil against the moderately flawed.

 

I like that we are talking about terrorists, but we should see terrorists not as criminals but we should see them as fanatics who are expecting the world to respond to their violent action. At this point, we do not know why our civilians are so disenfranchise enough to resort to terrorist activities, yet by bringing our attention upon terrorism is in fact perpetuating more popularity for the terrorists. Terrorists are like children who want the attention of the parents, in this case, they want to gain the attention from the world government, and locally they want the French government recognize the cause of terrorism. We should them what they want if what they want is peace and equality. If they want something such as discrimination and the isolation of their country then that is unconventional.

When certain ideals align then we approach Peace with open hands.
-E

 

I think the type to be offended by the cartoons is the type who have pretty extreme religious views to begin with.. the type of extreme views which deserve to be ridiculed. I don't think the magazine has anything at all to apologise for.

Yeah, thanks, though I never did say or imply that the religion of Islam was responsible which would be a strange idea. That these attackers were motivated by their religious beliefs makes a discussion of extremism within Islam quite interesting/important is what I meant. The moderating of this thread has been bizarre

 

Ha, curious then that he's one of the least liked politicians in the UK now with a very real chance of not winning his seat in this year's general election. I do sympathise with his position in government though and he does talk well here I will give him that

 

Apparently 2 are dead at a different siege in eastern Paris. Scary time to be in Paris right now.