1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

So straight men dislike the idea of two men, but have no problem with two women?

Discussion in 'General Support and Advice' started by Lackey, May 2, 2017.

  1. AuroraBorealis

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2013
    Messages:
    0
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    U.S.
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Some people
    This x1000. Men only like lesbians when they have the arrogance that they can turn one straight. When he's not watching her have sex with another woman or rejects him romantically he'll get butthurt and throw slurs.

    Another double standard, if a man tells a straight man he's gay he'll take it seriously, but if a woman tells a man he's a lesbian, he doesn't respect that or take it seriously. He'll ask "are you sure" "how do you know" "when did you know" or ask questions about her sex life just to get off.

    Straight men are just straight up fuck boys.
     
  2. Naos210

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    California
    Not all straight men. Don't generalize them. However, a lot of people who are against homosexuality are only against male homosexuality, and will watch lesbian pornography (obviously directed towards men, made by men). It's just something that's... life, I guess.
     
  3. Lexa

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2017
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    173
    Location:
    Belgium
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    I don't like the generalizations. Some straight men are ok with gay men. It's logical that when a men is a 0 on Kinsey Scale he has no interest in watching gay porn but likes lesbian porn, right? This said, I think it's true that most straight men have enough ego to think they can turn a girl straight :wink: . Funny, isn't it? Lol.
     
  4. Creativemind

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2015
    Messages:
    3,281
    Likes Received:
    411
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Gender:
    Other
    Gender Pronoun:
    Other
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    No one is generalizing straight men as a whole, but you are generalizing how people view homosexuality. Just saying.

    Most people are against homosexuality from both genders involved. Watching lesbian porn does not mean you support lesbian rights, nor does it mean you are not against female homosexuality.

    Ask half of these "lesbian porn watchers" if they're okay with lesbians being in love, lesbians being married, lesbians having children, lesbians having the right to exclude men from their romantic/sex lives, lesbians being their own daughters/loved ones. Chances are that that the majority of them will say no, they do not support these things. If they do support these things, then they wouldn't have a problem with male homosexuality.

    What about straight women who like yaoi? Does that mean they accept male homosexuality more? No, because they fetishize it. A lot of yaoi fans are still very homophobic and don't believe in equal rights.

    Watching porn =/= Supporting LGBT
     
  5. Dryad

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2013
    Messages:
    772
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Europe
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
  6. Lackey

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2017
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicago
    Okay. Sorry. I didn't mean to generalize straight men. I guess I should make it clear that I meant some straight men.
     
  7. Dollop

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2015
    Messages:
    206
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    UK
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Not out at all

    cant help but think ur on to something there....
     
  8. Naos210

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2017
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    California
    I'm not generalizing. Nothing in my statement implied all of a group.
     
  9. gravechild

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,425
    Likes Received:
    110
    Gender:
    Androgyne
    Gender Pronoun:
    They
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    A few people
    Straight men and gay women don't typically have the most... amicable, of relationships.
     
  10. Kira

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2014
    Messages:
    1,623
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    Georgia
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Some people
    This right here always got me growing up. I used to sort of think "Oh, she's got a picture of two guys kissing... likely totally accepting, we'll be good friends I bet!"

    It seems like such an odd thing to do in my eyes, but eh. People are strange. I've had acquaintances who would be totally fine with gay guys and "gay best friends" but if I dared say something like "Oh, Serina and Kate are just the cutest couple!" they'd be instantly and thoroughly disgusted. It baffles me, but then again I do live in the core of the "Bible belt". There is no logic in this place.

    More on the original topic, "typical" straight guys and the media have a tendency to oversexualize just about anything with a feminine torso. Many just cannot for the life of them imagine a functional relationship without themselves. The smart guys who use their brains are put down by the ones who don't, maybe it's a form of jealousy, or just a bundle of ignorance and hormones. I hope someday the tables turn, and the intelligent take the majority, but they tend to reproduce notably less... and are a lot less vocal.

    But yeah I'll stop, Creativemind has already covered most of the good points.
     
  11. Creativemind

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2015
    Messages:
    3,281
    Likes Received:
    411
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Gender:
    Other
    Gender Pronoun:
    Other
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Sadly some yaoi fangirls are against real gay men too. I've seen them drool over "animu buttsex" but then call real gay guys "fags". Or they outright refuse to date bisexual men because they think "ew gross HIV germs". Or they're against marriage equality for both.

    I've seen the same logic with men who love lesbian porn. It's hot to see two girls going at it, but if they both don't want to service his dick too, they're nasty dykes.
     
  12. Lackey

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2017
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicago
    Gosh. That is weird. I thought this was just a straight guy thing. I didn't know the same applied for straight women. And I don't get why straight girls would be okay with gay guys but not lesbians. I like all people -- gay, bi or straight -- however, I much prefer women as friends of any sexual orientation. I have a gay male cousin and we are close, but I don't have much interest in being close friends with men (gay or straight). I don't feel I have much in common with guys as friends (gay or straight) and I just don't trust that straight guys would want to be platonic friends. From my experience, they want to have sex with you or something more.
     
  13. AuroraBorealis

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2013
    Messages:
    0
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    U.S.
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Some people
    I see that with some straight women as well, they get along with gay men, but lesbians make them "uncomfortable"
     
  14. Mattroderic

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2017
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Buenos Aires
    Once I heard that that is because people tend to see themselves in the position of one member of the couple, so when straight men see a lesbian couple they may picture themselves in the position of one of the girls or both, when they see a straight couple they may picture themselves in the position of the boy, while in the gay couples when they picture themselves in the place of any of the couple they feel disgusted as they would never feel attracted to that or they would just ignore it. The level of disgustment depends on the person just as when someone sees an 'ugly couple' and feels repulsion when picturing themselves in the bed with them. In my case as a gay boy I should feel disgusted for lesbians but that is not the case, certainly I don't feel any attraction for them sexually, I think many straight men overreact their disgustment to defend their masculinity and make everybody clear that they are very straight (personally I think that has to do with their insecurities). Following this theory I wonder if straight women fantasize with gay men.
     
  15. skittlz

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2017
    Messages:
    319
    Likes Received:
    37
    Location:
    MN
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Basically many straight guys feel uncomfortable about possibly being sexualized by a gay guy when they themselves are guys sexualizing women

    ---------- Post added 12th May 2017 at 08:57 PM ----------

    That's a good point. Even before I realized I was queer, the only female classmates in elementary that got along well with me later came out (at least to themselves) as queer or gay. Maybe the other female classmates sensed it or something. Though, I think my example has more to do with the fact many of my female classmates didn't share my interests because pretty much all of them were really girly.