Should Teachers Be Armed

While I appreciate the motivation behind self-sufficienty--pulling one's own weight--the communitarian in me says "no." We need an approach to unsafe schools that isn't just an arms race between abusive students and abused students. What is it that makes us think unsafe schools that are sexist, homophobic, and transphobia now are going to be safer after we give weapons to the same teachers who had previously been ignoring the problem, and saying "boys will by boys"?

 

not MORE GUNS. You're probably trying to refer to less restriction. The government just doesn't hand out guns and command you to be armed.

We did have less gun violence when we had less restrictions, and I know you guys won't agree it was the "Bible" in our schools that kept shootings from happening.

And where are all these school shootings happening? In gun unfriendly states?

Banning narcotics won't stop addicts. Banning guns?

 

Edgy, the public school system is quite literally a set up for institutionalized child abuse. And that's exactly how I felt about it and will continue to feel about it. So no, I don't want the abusive teachers with weapons, lethal or non-lethal. Nor do I want abusive students to get their hands on such things either, because teachers and school administrators seem not to care what they do anyway...

 

By abolishing the only form of education available to the vast majority of people, we will surely have a better society.

 

So do you prefer private schools/homeschooling, or do you think that reform of the public school system is the answer? I'm just curious.

 

At this point, I'm going to have to withdraw from the argument; I'm not sure how US public schools function, but if the rest of the world is any guide, that is an exaggeration even if it does have some level of truth.

 

Really? I was under the impression that they did. :rolle:

So cite an example where an armed teacher prevented a school shooting in the "good old days". More restriction isn't what causes school shootings. The increase in shootings is due to an increase in people who think the solution to their problems is shooting people (the reason for that is not something I'm really in a position to explain). Now, if those people are able to get access to a gun, that's where the problems begin.

No one here is saying we should ban guns. That is the classic pro-gun straw-man argument. They're saying that a teacher in a classroom full of students should not have one. How that translates to "no one should ever own a gun" is beyond me.

 

I'm in a really bad mood, so I said something hyperbolic. Stuff happens. Regardless of what you think of the remark, I have serious concerns about the inattention many teachers and school administrators in the US display toward harassment and violence against women and minority students.

My old high school principal was on the record as not caring about the Day of Silence... At the same school where one of my best friends was almost beaten to death because he's gay and lacks straight passing privilege.

 

You can't know that.

Then teachers should also be armed with bombs and semi automatic weapons?

 

As a future teacher, I would not want to be armed with a gun.

 

I think American society has a lot of issues festering under the surface that simply don't exist to the same extent elsewhere in the developed world which seems to make the country particularly murderous and violent - especially in the cities. I think guns are already too entrenched into American society to make a ban effective, but I don't think arming teachers will alleviate the problem of sporadic school slaughters or the general level of murder.

I don't know how you solve a problem like the United States.

 

Agreed.

 

I think it is heartbreaking and terrifying that people are even discussing this.

 

no it will make the situation 100000000 time worse

 

Oh God..

School already felt too much like prisons for me. If you arm the teachers, I'd feel like living in terror state.

 

Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! And kid caught bringing a gun to school should be sent to prison for ten years IMO. That would scare most not too. I'd hope.

 

Kids start school at what, 4 or 5, so we're expecting them to afford themselves an education? Oh no, the quality of a child's education, or their ability to access education at all, should depend on the wealth of their parents, I see

What a horrible idea

On guns in school, wow I just can't, how is this even something we're talking about

 

That's an easy question for me: no!

 

Absolutely, i would want a trained individual to protect my kid if i can't be there. and i would want them to do more than just get riddled with bullets trying to protect him, i would want the teacher to do what i would do, kill the SOB that was trying to kill my child.:***::tantrum: