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Sexuality confusion please help?

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by Redness18, Apr 1, 2019.

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What sexuality am I?

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  1. Redness18

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    Hi, so the past few months since I got with my recent girlfriend who lives an hour away from me which I find difficult in itself I have started to have gay thoughts most of the day especially when I wake up in the morning! They make me feel anxious all the time as I am really in love with my girlfriend and am afraid they mean I’m gay! My background when I was younger I always loved masturbating over woman but I started to go on web and sites to find woman on there but could never find any so started masturbing with other men instead as I couldn’t get any attention from woman in real life so seen it as my only option! That became I bit of a thing and I used to do it quite a lot and enjoyed it! I stopped that when I went out with my ex and our sex life was amazing she used to play with my ass a lot dildos and Strapons which I also loved so since I split up with her all I could think about was getting with other woman but when I got with the girlfriend I am with now where the sex is a lot more tame I don’t feel as horny when having sex and all I can think about is her doing something with my arse or somebody else doing something ie another man! Never seen myself as gay always straight maybe a little bi curious but it’s really affecting my mental state all of a sudden it’s horrible feel like shit all the time and have really bad anxiety just need some answers as you can see it’s very confusing I don’t want to split up with my girlfriend and want to be with her for life but these thoughts are making it so difficult! What are your thoughts please???
     
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    It is an interesting position you are in, I can't decide for you but maybe try talking to your girlfriend about it not the gay thoughts but that you want to do more etc. and suggest anal, emphasise on yourself she might not be into it for herself, and if she agrees to try and if she does agree ,tell us how you feel after a few weeks or so and if the thoughts keep coming back after try something else this is the best i can come up with.
     
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    So I think I'm hearing two different issues here:

    Issue 1, you enjoy ass play, and liked having a partner willing to engage in that with you.

    Issue 2: You're wondering if you're attracted to men, in part because you masturbated with men when you were younger.

    So basically, those are largely unrelated issues. There are plenty of straight men that enjoy anal stimulation; male bodies are hardwired to enjoy anal stimulation, so there's nothing really unusual there. You can be totally straight, and have a girl use a strap-on. What matters is where your sexual arousal and attraction lie, not whether you enjoy anal stimulation.

    Issue 2, there are plenty of straight teens who masturbate with other teens and it is no reflection on their sexual orientation; teens are horny and often not particularly concerned about why they are horny with. :slight_smile: So the question is... when you're masturbating without porn, are you still fantasizing about women, or do you find yourself fantasizing about men? If women... pretty safe to say you're straight. If men... then there's likely some attraction/arousal toward men there. If you haven't specifically tried masturbating to fantasies of men, you might try that and see how it is different to fantasizing about women.
     
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    Hi so I didn’t used to fantasise about men at all always woman doing stuff with my in a dominate way and me being sub! Now all of a sudden it’s like I don’t feel attracted to woman anymore and I have crippling anxiety everyday worrying about the thought of being gay! I don’t enjoy watching gay porn or the thoughts in my head with other men as I want to be with a woman! I just need some closure to sort my head out I know I’ve always been really kinky and up for anything just didn’t know it would affect me like this ?
     
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    Is your girlfriend open to requests you have about incorporating ass play or dom-sub in the bedroom? Maybe try that with her and see how it feels: you may just be interested in these acts, which has no bearing on your sexuality. If you don't enjoy fantasizing about men or are not attracted to them, you're probably not gay.
     
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    I had that happen.

    Women were still attractive to me, but they were no longer showing up in fantasy. That got me worried, I didn’t understand what was going on. I wanted to figure things out. I scoured the internet, reading lots of relevant and irrelevant posts and articles. Finally I went to therapy, and within a number of weeks I realized I am bisexual, and I’m fine with that. I suppose it could have been different, maybe that I was gay, that was not something I was scared of, but it wouldn’t make sense in my case. The main thing is I didn’t have to be crippled by worry or highly anxious, just enough worry about things so that I was motivated to figuring it out with some help, and then embracing who I am.
    If anxiety is crippling you every day, get therapy. I highly recommend it. Best wishes!
     
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    Hey, so you've clearly mentioned you've always been into women. The problem is you're presently hooked on to ass play,which you're not receiving from your current girlfriend. So it makes sense that your mind is drifting to wanting someone to play with your ass.
    Since the physique of a man or intimacy with a man in gay porn is not arousing to you, I'd say it's safe to say that you're not really into men , and so you don't have to put yourself into such anxiety anymore.

    Your body is simply craving ass play. So simple sex currently wouldn't make you as horny as it did before.

    Just watch out if it's becoming a fetish.
     
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    Hi! So I’m still feeling like shit down all the time having these gay thoughts passing through my head and they don’t seem to want to go away! The worst bit is these groinal responses I get either when I look or come close to a guy it doesn’t feel like the usual horny just not nice and makes me really anxious! I can’t even wake up next to my girlfriend and feel ok anymore I feel like I’m going to fall out of love with her which is my worst fear because she’s amazing! Any more help? Thanks
     
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    You didn't directly answer the question I asked, which is what happens when you fantasize about men while masturbating (without porn), and then, in contrast what happens when you fantasize about women? Usually one or the other will produce much stronger arousal, and that's usually a pretty reliable indicator of where your orientation lies.

    Complicating factors is it sounds like there could be either symptoms consistent with an anxiety spectrum disorder, or some sort of obsessive-compulsive spectrum traits going on here. If either of those are the case, that's going to complicate things. It has absolutely no bearing on your sexual identity, but it can cause you to question irrationally. But the real answer is usually pretty clear as a result of the above testing.
     
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    So I tried this out quite hard to fantasise about stuff you haven’t done before I get hard when think about both really it doesn’t feel much different I do get harder quicker when thinking about another guy but it’s so vague hard to tell what it really is?
     
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    So if both arouse you, but you feel stronger arousal thinking about guys, that's usually a pretty good sign that the attraction for men is stronger than for women. Now... the question is whether you're closer to bisexual or gay, and that's more difficult to discern, because our internalized homophobia and fears tend to get in the way.

    Basically, you have some thinking and contemplation to do. You can continue to masturbate fantasizing about guys and see how that experience works for you; often, as you start to open the door, the feelings for that will become stronger. At some point, you have to consider what this means for your current relationship, and a lot will depend there on whether your arousal is mostly about guys, or fairly equally about guys and girls. And as you get more clarity on that, you will probably need to have a conversation with your girlfriend, as it isn't fair to keep her in the dark.

    A lot to think about. But there's no timetable, and you can take the time you need to get a handle on it.
     
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    Hi, I had a similar question a while ago. What I’ve found is sexual identification is fluid. You may feel rod straight one day, but full on gay another and it carried from day to day. The best thing to do in a situation where your mind can’t seem to settle is don’t focus on how you feel overall. All the mixed day to day feeling with overwhelm and confuse you. Instead, focus on how you feel that day. Maybe keep a journal. Eventually, your mind will settle and you’ll have a more clear understanding of what you want in life. But it takes a bit of time, patience, and work. Just focus on what you want in life and eventually you’ll get there. Hope this helps!
     
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    That experience isn't uncommon while people are in the process of figuring out where they are; it's a byproduct of our internalized homophobia, the fear we have about the unknown (what it would be like to be gay), and the sense of having our identity upended.

    I just want to clarify that what is being described is a transient, temporary thing while one is figuring oneself out. There's nothing I've ever seen in the research, or in common consensus among professionals, that would indicate that this happens in the long term. I just don't want the OP (or anyone reading this thread) to get confused.

    The above is a great way to handle things.
     
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    Thanks for all your help my mindset seems to be much better now enjoying time with my girlfriend more and the sex seems to feel much better! I’ve still got this in my mind all the time though and when I’m around most men I have this shooting pain that goes from my groin the down my right leg to my big toe it’s very uncomfortable and just make me feel like I’m aroused it’s not enjoyable I try to stop it but it just gets worse is this normal?
     
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    Another thing aswell I’m in the gym training with my mates and all of a sudden this past 6 months I’ve been with my girlfriend or maybe a bit longer I feel really awkward training with them getting all these groinal responses leading into pain in my right foot again can’t train as much as I used to because of this and I’m not an awkward person at all? No girls ever train in our gym which makes it even worse nothing else to look at
     
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    It does tend to sound like this is more than just anxiety. When you talk about the 'groinal response' and shooting pain down your leg... is this actual physical arousal from being around guys? And when I add that to your much earlier comment that you started watching gay porn (if I read your message correctly) because you 'couldn't find' straight porn (or something like that)... that is almost certainly a rationalization, since there's about 10 times as much gay porn as straight porn.

    So, then adding that to what you describe about getting equal or slightly more arousal from masturbating thinking about guys, it sounds like there's a pretty strong attraction to guys, but a really serious anxiety/fear about embracing that.

    Where it gets messy is the fear can inhibit the ability to actually figure out where your attractions lie. If you weren't in a relationship, I'd suggest simply trying something with a guy, but it's not OK to do that if you're committed to someone. Perhaps you could propose a threesome with another guy to her?
     
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    I don’t know if it’s physical arousal or not because how can you be physically aroused all the time around men when they aren’t doing anything sexual? It’s a major head fuck I like the idea of being fucked up the bum hence the whole strap on thing I do get boners easier watching gay porn but I watch straight porn feel aroused aswell but now I’ve stopped getting boners as easier but look at the girls and think yes I want to have sex with her but when I watch gay porn I don’t think yes I want to have sex with him like I don’t feel attracted to them but get a boner so confusing! A threesome with another guy isn’t a possibility at all don’t know what to do
     
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    So the more you explain it, the more what you're describing sounds like genuine same-sex attraction.

    What might help is understanding how our minds process loss (in this case, loss of perception as straight. There are stages: denial-anger-bargaining-grief-acceptance. In the denial phase, one basically avoids or minimizes the facts that might support the idea of same sex attraction. That's what seems to be going on here. This would also be the case where your body is feeling arousal when you watch gay porn, but your head is going "I don't want this". What's going on with arousal in the body is the unconscious hardwired response, while what's going through your head is filtered by your own thoughts and resistance (i.e, not wanting to accept the possiblity you could like guys.)

    So it's likely that the confusion is driven at least in part by that disconnect. I would suspect that the very fact that you're talking and thinking about it will start to alter your conscious perception so that you can be more open to considering the possiblity.

    At this point, I don't think anyone can say definitively that you're gay or bi or straight, only that something is going on that you need to figure out. The hard part is simply giving yourself time to contemplate. The answer is probably going to take a while.
     
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    I could accept it more if I was bi because I don’t want to lose all feeling and sexual attraction to woman I’ve always loved being with them love this relationship I’m in now! Love everything about woman and my girlfriend really knows how to turn me on it’s mainly when I’m alone because she lives away from me I have all these feelings so I really struggle being away from her
     
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    Don’t ever want to have a same sex relationship the thought of it is not appealing to me either it’s a mind field aha