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Possibly Gay but difficulty wrapping head around it (28)

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by DudeGuy, Sep 2, 2021.

  1. DudeGuy

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    Hey,

    So I don’t really know where to begin.

    For the longest time I felt I was attracted to women (straight and never questioned a thing). My first crush was a woman. I remember in the fourth Harry Potter film seeing Hermione walk down the stairs to the ball in her dress and it was the first time I remember feeling sexual desire to someone lol, Had that sports illustrated poster of models in my bathroom that I used to pleasure myself to too lol. The typical stuff that “straight” individuals do. That carried out throughout my adolescence and teenage years. Had girlfriends in high school that I fell in love with. Then became a dad at the young age of 22 and was fully planning on marrying this woman. (I am no longer with her - she needed things and I was devastated)

    But around the age of 21, some curiosity peaked through just in terms of sexual nature with men. Never men I knew. Just porn. I could appreciate a good looking guy but never had any sexual desire towards them. At the time I just figured it was a kink. I could always pleasure myself thinking about women and women that I’ve been with but never men or men that I knew. I just never had that desire. Even after watching gay porn, I never really felt there was that side of me. It was honestly 90:10 in ratio from straight to gay porn.

    I’m not the least bit homophobic. I have gay family members and have met plenty of fantastic gay individuals. However, there was always this piece of me that gay individuals would know my secret “kink”. That was the only time I would feel “uncomfortable” if you could say that. I was never planning to tell anyone and I’ve never had any sexual feeling of action towards as man in person.

    Fast forward to 27. I started to realize it’s more difficult maintaining an erection during inter course but still never think anything of it.

    Then an event occurred…
    A friend of mine got a hold of my phone and came across some gay porn I was watching. We were in a large group and were very intoxicated (he blacks out all the time). He just starts questioning me on everything about me and my sexuality not knowing that I knew what he came across. We woke up the next morning and it didn’t seemed he remembered. But my mind was racing and it hasn’t stopped since (this was over a year ago now). We’ve hung out since and he’s mentioned some things to me that reinforces that he doesn’t remember.

    But that moment - it came to the surface. It was “real” and it was “out in the world”. Ever since then I’ve been questioning everything. Haven’t felt myself in what feels like a year. I’m in a constant state of anxiety and depression of who possibly knows this secret. I could control it when I didn’t tell anyone but now it feels like I’ve lost complete control.

    I need some guidance. It’s apparent that I must have some internalized homophobia that I never knew about because I now feel guilt. It literally feels like my face is going to explode at times. I have no sexual desires towards anyone and it feels like I have no idea who I am. I’m so disassociated from what I felt was me and my body.

    I suffered from anxiety and depression previously - but not like this. I’ve been reviewing and reading everything. “Do I have HOCD” “Are you bisexual” “Are you gay” “Are you asexual”.

    I’m just having a real difficult time understanding what is going on and need some guidance.
     
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    Welcome to EC.

    The porn that a person watches is a very poor indicator of that persons orientation. Plenty of lesbians watch gay porn despite not being men nor having any interest in men. I think that the underlined portion is much more indicative of your orientation. (especially if you really meant attraction rather than action)

    This could be physiological. If you are continuing to have issues like this it would be a good idea to consult a doctor, it certainly won't hurt.

    A couple of issues here.
    • A person who is that toxic to you is not really a friend. Maybe just disconnect yourself from him.
    • The whole being hurt by ridicule points to bad friends, compulsory heterosexuality and toxic masculinity in society. Even if you are not consciously homophobic we all live in societies that expect and pressure everyone to be "normal" (heterosexual) and we absorb that.

    This sounds like you could definitely benefit from therapy. If you know that you have anxiety and depression you might even benefit from medication. Also "Homosexual Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" is not a thing any more than "Handwashing Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" or "Checking if the Stove is on Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" are things. There is just OCD and if you have it then all of these thoughts and problems can be addressed by working on the OCD. There are therapies and medications that specifically help for OCD so seeing a professional for this issue is a good idea.
     
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    What what you’ve said it seems unlikely you are gay. My question is, can you see yourself intimate with a man, kissing him or dating etc?
     
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    It sounds like your concerns about your sexuality are part of a bigger picture that probably includes other significant stressors, such as what happened with your ex and what happened with your child (you don't say if your in the child's life). Also you may have generalized anxiety or depression because of other traumas. I would suggest you see a therapist or psychiatrist about all of your symptoms and not focus just on your sexuality at this point.
     
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    DudeGuy......Hello and a great big LGBTQIA+ welcome to Empty Closets! :old_smile: There are a number of sub-forums here on EC...why don't you check them out and then feel free to join in the conversations! I have to agree with several others here that seeing a therapist is not just a good idea, but something that is very important for you to do. You have several things that are all on your plate at the same time and that is making it even more difficult for you to reconcile any of them. That happened to me in 2014. I had just retired from a job I loved. I had health issues that were getting worse all the time and I had finally, after many years, just come out as gay here on EC. There was just too much to handle all at once. Deciding to see a therapist was one of the best decisions that I've ever made. He has helped me a great deal and I still see him occasionally. Please give that some serious consideration! In the mean time you have found us here on Empty Closets...we are a community of loving, caring and very supportive people and we will do our best to help you blend into the community. You can ask questions in any of the Sub-forums by creating a new thread or by joining in a conversation-thread that is already going. You can also post a message on anyone's Profile Page after you have made at least ten posts yourself. If you have a question that is somewhat private you can always send a Private Message to any Staff Member. Normally Private Messages can only be exchanged between two Full Members, but a PM to a Staff Member is an exception. :old_wink: We are so glad that you have found us here on Empty Closets! :old_big_grin:
    .....David :gay_pride_flag:
     
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    The question of your sexuality has not been raised at all since that night when everyone was intoxicated, so it's highly likely your friend has no memories of it. Even if he does, he probably considers it none of his business and largely irrelevant and he's certainly been very discreet about it, if he remembers.

    Fact: straight people do watch gay porn and gay people do watch straight porn. It happens and we should be honest in saying it happens. It really proves very little about our sexuality. I only think it demonstrates that humans are a curious species who like to know what other people are getting up to and how they are getting up to it. We may find it a little bit arousing when we watch it (because sex is arousing and porn is designed to get us aroused), but the mere fact of watching it doesn't undermine our whole sexual identity. So, you are curious and might not be 1000% straight, but that's totally okay and really quite normal.

    I think your concerns are largely based around a fear of indiscretion on the part of your friend and how it could be challenging to face lots of questions that you are ill prepared to answer. Essentially you are worried about being exposed as something you are not and it's weighing heavily on your mind. I actually don't regard all of this as internalized homophobia. I imagine a gay man who had been caught watching straight porn would experience many of the same dilemma's. The difficulties you are now facing in maintaining an erection could be connected to the emotional disturbance all of this has caused.

    Honestly, I don't think anything has been said or will be said about what was on your phone. I'd be fairly confident that your friend has no recollection of it.

    As to whether therapy is a good idea, I would simply say that therapy is always a good idea. I think 90% of the human race would benefit from a little bit of time in therapy. I've done it and I'm so pleased I did. Learned so much about myself and the things that provoke and trigger me. That's a good thing!
     
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    I would agree that therapy helps. Sexuality really is a spectrum, you can go from straight, bi, gay, or anywhere. Do you have any fantasies that you have in your head? The big question is can you see your self being sexually satisfied woth a guy and romantically satisfied with a guy. There should be no shame in it. Society should be more accepting.