General News Mike Pence to be Donald Trump's Running Mate

Lol

 

I feel like this is gonna be two men(Trump/Pence) running against two women(Hillary/Warren). Still interested to see who Hillary picks.

 

I've seen lists that speculate whom Clinton might pick for VP. Those lists are dominated by men; however, Elizabeth Warren has been on at least one list. However, it commented that Warren seems like a remote possibility. Warren is thought to be too progressive for Ronald Reagan Lite 2.0, er, Hillary Clinton. She could also potentially dominate things too much.

But we'll see.

One option occurs to me. I don't know if it could happen, but Joe Biden might be an attractive possibility. He certainly should know the VP job by now, and he's widely recognizable--unlike a lot of the "possibles." He is also more likable than Hillary Clinton, which might help her campaign.

 

Stark high-contrast design...emblematic of an us vs. them mentality...can't get enough of that penetration meme, so, so perfect!

 

Does anyone have a weird suspicion that Trump is running a disastrous campaign on purpose? Pence is a horrible person and unlike Trump he has the voting record to prove it.

 

Pence is primarily there to get evangelicals who are hesitant about voting for someone who professes to being a fastidious, God fearing conservative but who behaves like a slovenly, atheist liberal.

Problem is large sections of the religious right don't like Pence because of the RFRA "fix". Doesn't matter that anti LGBT discrimination is still legal in large sections of Indiana, they wanted that protected by law, he "compromised" therefore he is Richard Dawkins in all but name.

 

Agreed. Based on what I've read of him I don't really agree with some of his policies but just looking at him in interviews and the like he seems very clean cut, normal looking dude. At the same time I agree with Trump on a lot of things but he's a little too crazy for me to support him on his own; with Pence I think it balances out and is definitely a better option than Clinton.

 

PHP:

As someone from Indiana I know he looks harmless and clean-cut and like a nice guy but he is actually really awful. The only good thing he did was HIP 2.0. Otherwise he has set Indiana back a lot and has been really homophobic and sexist in policy. If I were to watch him in an interview without being from his state I would be like well at least the VP pick isn't awful, but believe me he is not good for our community at all.

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6 Reasons Why Mike Pence Is Awful For Queer People

http://www.bustle.com/articles/172623-mike-pences-anti-lgbtq-stances-make-him-dangerous-to-the-community

"Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexual's as a 'discreet and insular minority' entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities." He believes marriage is "ordained by God" and strongly opposes same-sex marriage.


Pence was against the 2009 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act and said "This will have a chilling effect on religious expression, from the pulpits, in our temples, in our mosques and in our churches," he said. "And it must be undone."

He also opposes transgender people in bathrooms. I'm not trying to say people can't vote certain ways, I'm just trying to inform people because I know as a residence of his state that he is pretty scary. I was going to try to vote him out of office because he is so scary. He also is really backwards towards Planned Parenthood and anything regarding women's health.

 

https://www.romper.com/p/the-mike-pence-hiv-scandal-4-things-you-need-to-know-14479

(Sorry for the long information spew lol) There was also one of the worse HIV outbreaks in the recent days in the USA in Indiana and Pence basically made it worse because he had defunded Planned Parenthood. This made the rates go up because people didn't have access to the Planned Parenthood offices.

"One of those was in tiny, poor Scott County, the site of a mass addiction to the drug Opana, according to The Chicago Tribune, which users liquefy and then inject with needles. When they had access to Planned Parenthood and the HIV prevention, intervention, and counseling services it provided, the disease reportedly could not proliferate the way it did when the county lost those safety nets. The clinic shut down in 2013, and by 2015, 150 of its residents were infected. By April 2016, the number had swelled to 190."

190 people got HIV and those numbers are going up everyday still probably. There are only less than 24k people in all of Scott County. It wasn't until way after the outbreak was too far into an epidemic classification (in 2015) that he signed a needle exchange program for places in an epidemic. Still, he didn't react until very late and he defunded places because of his opposition to abortion even though many of the offices didn't even perform abortions. Some small Indiana towns have very high rates of IV drug use.

 

I wanted Palin :/

 

Same here. That would have been absolutely hilarious.

 

I understand this but I like it because he doesn't seem like he'd attempt anything super insane. Trump himself seems to be pretty accepting of LGBT and it looks to me like his presidency won't have a lot to do with that, given his loud personality he might even try to shut down anything Pence might attempt with that; and Pence in return is probably OK with a majority of the things that Trump will try to do which I am mostly for.

 

He's a politician. It is, quite literally, his job to appear normal and appealing. Have you ever read anything about not judging books by their covers? The same applies. In any case, as I have previously stated, Presidents already have a high mortality rate, and being someone who has now offended literally every group other than white males makes you rather likely to be assassinated. I would, at very least, place it at a 20% chance, which is a 20% chance of a Pence presidency. Assuming that 5% of the US population is LGBT (which is actually rather low if you look at the fact that 5% of porn searches are for gay porn), that means an average of 1% of the US population being persecuted against. Thus, voting for Trump is, at very minimum, a vote for 3 million people to lose the right to marry, lose their right to not be discriminated against, lose the right to go to the bathroom of their choosing, and otherwise lose their rights. By voting for Trump, you would be personally responsible for those 3 million people, at least some of which will likely starve because of unemployment. Not to be aggressive, but voting for Trump+Pence is essentially murder. That's only accounting for the effect on LGBT community, by the way, rather than the subjective yet probable general job loss as a result of his economic policies.

 

I'm just gonna back out now

 

I have lost any respect I might have had for the Republican party now. They are ignorant, narrow-minded and their "values" are outdated and foolish.

 

I'm honestly scared of anyone who says they support Trump/Pence.

 

Yeah screw those guys

 

You're sig while you say that!:lol:

 

I'm glad I didn't place any bets on who he'd pick. I just can't think of any way this benefits Trump in the general election. He's courting the evangelical vote, but not much else.

 

I've maintained my current level of respect for the Republican party (hint: it's none).

Though the Democrats I'm sure will make their convention as much of a Trump-bashing fest as the Republicans have done with Hillary. This kind of negative campaigning distracts from the vague policy proposals of the candidates; it's pandering, it's rabble-rousing, and it doesn't help bolster the candidate. But that's the way politics is.