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I Think I'm Dating a Jewish Pedophile with a Nazi fetish

Discussion in 'General Support and Advice' started by Rakkaus, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. Incognito10

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    The fact that you made this post explaining all the proverbial red-flags that have been set off in your mind, demonstrates you know the answer here. It sounds like you just met this guy, so it is going to be much easier to just cut ties now than later, so do not keep engaging in disturbing conversation or encounters. You can block his number and avoid any other contact such as social media or email by blocking him as well.

    I had a situation in the past, nothing this alarming, where a guy I was considering dating revealed he had stolen money and was in a legal situation. I thanked him for telling me up front but just told him I do not feel like involving myself in that situation and that I wish him the best of luck in his future. Had I have kept things progressing and "led" him on, it would have been much more difficult for me to get out of the situation, emotionally. I also told him not to lose hope for finding a partner because everyone makes mistakes, we learn from them (he stated he has learned) and then we move on a better and stronger person (hopefully). But the key to this situation is that I did not feel it was right to involve myself with someone who needed to work through a major life issue.
     
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    Well I have no *proof* that he is a pedophile, or a Nazi fetishist. Just innuendos and hints, and my brain tends to overthink things due to severe anxiety disorders, and assume the worst of people. I posted this thread out of a sudden sense of panic at around 1 in the morning after my brain had just started processing the events of the day and night preceding.

    I was hoping for some advice for me to stop overthinking things and assuming terrible things, I was not prepared for a tidal wave of posts basically re-confirming the worst anxieties in my defective brain.

    All the people posting here know about this guy is what I've said to them, and I'm a highly unreliable narrator, prone to invent fears and anxieties that are unwarranted. Fears and fantasies that do not exist.

    I told my social workers about this situation, and neither of them told me to "run", they just told me to be careful.

    I think he is just very artsy and very Jewish, anyone who grew up in NYC knows how (secular) Jews are, prone to esotericism and perhaps kinkiness compared to all the boring Catholics I grew up around. When I was with him it felt like I was in a surrealist film, there was an excitement to it that has been missing from my life.

    He texted me today to ask me how my "beautiful golden hair" was doing, he said he wants to hang out again next weekend and caress my golden hair. Flattery always works with me.

    I don't foresee marrying this guy, but then I don't foresee marrying anyone, I probably will not be emotionally mature enough to handle marriage until I am 70, if I even live that long. I see this as more of a....spring fling.



    But oh gosh I wrote all the above post hours ago and just realized I never clicked submit, I'll post it just to show how crazy I am getting, I have like two different personalities, now I am in panic again. I think the psych meds are really fucking me up. When I'm on the meds I really want to see him, when the meds wear off I get overtaken by panic about this guy and what I've just agreed to. I really am going crazy. Maybe he really is just a nice guy with some quirks, idk, it seems like whether I see him again or not will depend on how many pills I've swallowed. I don't know whether it's my natural judgment against seeing this guy that is clouded by my irrational anxieties, or my medicated judgment to really want to see him that is clouded by GABA. I need to find some middle ground to come up with a rational solution. But even now, when I'm feeling pretty creeped out by him, I really don't think he is dangerous, some people here seem to have even more overactive imaginations than I do, I really highly doubt he has some fantasy to "gas" me as some Jewish revenge against Nazis, I think he is just highly interested in me physically and I need to evaluate whether I want that kind of relationship. I need more time to think about it. I thank you all for the advice in the meantime.
     
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    This ain't gonna end well. At best it's going to exacerbate your psychological issues, at worst this guy could decide to kill you, God-forbid. Look up Luca Rocco Magnotta, this stuff happens (just a few miles away from my place, actually).

    I don't think you're ready to be in a relationship yet anyway, you need to work on yourself first so you don't become a prime target for predators like this guy.

    And who cares how Jewish he is?! His grandparents must be turning over in their graves with that nazi fetish he's got going on...

    Trust your gut and RUN, DON'T WALK.
     
  4. Rakkaus

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    I really don't think he would want to kill me. I mean, he had a prime chance when he had me over his place, I vomited all over his bed and was a sick drunken invalid in his house, he would have had plenty of motive and opportunity to want to kill me at that point if that was his intent.

    Instead he took care of me, the next morning gave me some bread and butter and made coffee sitting and chatting with him and his friend (she's studying to be a psychologist) at his kitchen table, he printed out directions for how to get home for me, he texted me to make sure I got home safely.

    I mean, he's made pretty clear that he finds me beautiful, I don't think he would want to kill me. I really don't fear violence from him, I just am creeped out by some of his expressed sentiments.

    It's like that movie "Doubt" with Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Meryl Streep and Amy Adams, where you don't know whether Hoffman (a priest) is a pedophile or not, he is eventually forced to step down from the pulpit at the Catholic school by the nun principal due to her suspicions, and at the end Meryl Streep (the nun principal) breaks down crying saying "I have doubts, I have such doubts".

    I don't know how I find myself in the most bizarre situations. Am I dating a pedophile who is 2 years younger than I am? Am I dating a Jew with a Nazi fetish for the Hitler Youth look?

    I have doubts, I have such doubts...:tears:
     
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    Good therapists will never tell a client what to do. That's why your social workers won't tell you to run the other way. To do so would set up an unhealthy relationship with them.

    There's no question here, Erik. None. The guy is bad news. Any one of the many problematic issues you've mentioned would be enough to make an emotionally healthy person run the other way. Combine them together and you'd have to be really crazy to continue any sort of contact with him.

    You can believe what everyone's saying... or you can decide something different. Keep in mind, your track record in the latter isn't very good, and you've got completely unanimous commentary here, so that should tell you something.
     
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    He may not murder you forcibly, but he could tempt you into some very bad stuff. And IMO it's pretty creepy to text you about your hair when you've had all of one date. Yes you may have psychological issues, but it's never too late to make one responsible choice. Two problems don't make a solution!
     
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    My social worker argues with me and tells me what to do all the time. In fact I've complained to her that she argues too much and she tells me she just wants to "challenge" my thinking. But even she didn't say to stop seeing this guy. She just scolded me for not using a condom for oral sex and told me to be using protection. But she told me I have no proof that he's a pedophile or anything and that I'm prejudging him based on shaky evidence and irrational anxiety.

    Ha well I guess that hits the nail on the head then about my own emotional health. :eek:

    I'm really crazy! :eusa_shif

    Right now I've just been texting him and we've been having normal, ordinary conversation about regular things. Nothing weird or creepy.

    I'm also chatting with some other guys, some seem promising, though I don't like to get my hopes up. But I'm keeping my options open.

    My lifelong track record has been to be an anxiety-prone, risk-averse loner, and that left me a friendless, relationshipless, pathetic loser. Sometimes chances have to be taken, and I think I need to take this chance.
     
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    Eh...no. Dude, I'm telling you now as someone who's probably desperate enough to go for grandma in a mumu- run.

    Like, sure. He might be merely mildly eccentric. Sure, he might be a little strange. But a possibly pedophiliac Nazi fetish having guy? That's not mildly eccentric. That's a cry for help.

    If you're lonely, get a dog. Don't get a man who's asking to be Ted Bundy: Electric Boogaloo.
     
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    What kind of "very bad stuff" could he tempt me into? He had me in his house in the most vulnerable state possible, I had just vomited all over his bed, and all he did was end up taking care of me, he let me stay until noon the next day, made me coffee, fed me, introduced me to his friend, gave me directions home, texted me to make sure I got home safe. He may have said some things with creepy undertones, but I really don't think he is malicious.
     
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    Still seems like a troll thread to me. Too ridiculous to be real.
     
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    I give up.

    There's far more than ample justification here, the collective wisdom of everyone who's posted... and you aren't interested in listening to any of the sound logic or advice anyone is offering.

    So... have at it, and good luck.
     
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    Alright well I'm still deciding on what to do.

    He says he wants to meet to hang out next weekend. If you guys never hear from me again after that, then you can all give yourselves pats on the back with the sense of smug satisfaction at being proven right.

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    That's like the definition of "camp". Perhaps that is what attracts me to this relationship. It is as campy as could possibly be.

    However this guy is a real person, I could link you to his crazy YouTube videos, but his account uses his real full name, so not sure if that would be appropriate. But he's like, too ridiculous to be real. That's what make him so oddly alluring to me.

    Anyway, I'm meeting some other guy on Wednesday, he invited me to his place to watch Disney movies and play Pokemon, maybe I will find true love and forget all about the campy crazy guy.

    Watch this space.
     
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    This guy is probably being "nice" to you because he's "grooming" you. Didn't you know that's what pedophiles do with their victims? Treat them nice, tell them they love them, etc, and then when they psychologically ensnared you and you are helpless, the hell begins. Pedophile technique #1, and you're totally falling for it because you are need and you have issues. Guess what? That's probably the first thing he spotted about you when he was looking for his next victim.

    PS.: I'm pretty sure Lin Jun never thought Magnotta would kill him, either. But that's not the kind of thing you want to take chances about, is it?
     
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    Rakkaus, you are beautiful, you don't need someone like that in your life but seeing and reading this whole thread it seems there is no changing your mind, are you a Taurus? I have similar questions about my sanity though I haven't had a therapist since getting over my middle school bullying.

    You are really brave though to be having first dates and whatnot at a strangers house, I would never be comfortable enough to do that. I have to meet in public. But then going on dating a possibly paedophilic Nazi fetishist takes a remarkable amount of bravery too. You are much more brave then I am.
     
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    He's 21, I'm 23. How could he possibly be "grooming" me like a pedophile? That's like entering Bizarro World. What is he going to do to me? We are both adults well past the age of consent. And I am quite self-aware and perceptive of others and their motives. I have my mental issues, but I have anxiety disorders, not mental retardation, my mind envisions every possible negative consequence imaginable. Most of my fears and anxieties are unwarranted and I need to stop letting fear and anxiety rule my life.

    We went out on a date- he paid for dinner. Then we went to a cafe where we just sat and chatted for a while about a whole variety of subjects. Then we went for drinks- we split that bill. Then I went back to his place and engaged in consensual oral sex. It was a fun time until I ruined it and threw up all over his bed. Most guys probably would have just kicked me out on the street at that point, but instead he was really nice and took care of me.

    I hardly ever have a guy interested in a second date after going on a first date. I certainly never have had a guy actively interested in pursuing a second date with me, most guys don't even respond to my texts after our first date. And this is the first time I've actually vomited all over a guy's bed! There must be something special about him if he's still interested in me after that.

    Last night we had a nice friendly normal text conversation. Nothing about Nazis or priests or any other weird things. He has a lot of problems with his parents too, something we have something in common. It really calmed down my fears about him. I don't think there is any harm done in giving him another chance. (Hell, I'm lucky he is giving me another chance, considering I vomited all over his bed, ruined the night, and got him in trouble with his parents.)

    If anything I feel like people in this thread are treating me like a middle schooler and talking down to me. I asked for advice, not to be told what to do and then mocked as being too stupid to make my own decision. Just to remind everyone, I'm not actually a middle schooler. I'm not as stupid as I look.

    I really don't see what a case about a psychotic cannibal porn actor in Canada has to do with this. This guy has his quirks, but I've seen nothing to indicate violent tendencies. He has had ample chance to harm me if that were his intention.

    One thing I've resolved is that if I do see him again, I will be strictly limiting my alcohol consumption to ensure I maintain my faculties.

    But anyway, I don't have any plans at this point to meet with him again. We'll probably be texting a bit more and I'll be able to get to know him better before deciding whether to go out with him again.

    If anything I'm more nervous about this Hispanic guy who wants me to go over his place when we like literally just met online last night, he wanted me to go over tomorrow, I told him maybe Wednesday. And he got rather pervy in his comments towards me. What started off as him inviting me to watch Disney movies and play Pokemon ended up with him telling me he's "rock hard" thinking about my "cute little butt"...ugh gay guys are all perverted creeps. I was going to suggest maybe just meeting for coffee instead. But now he's inviting me to have a threesome with him and his friend tomorrow morning. I seem to really know how to attract the biggest creeps. So now I just want to figure out a way to extricate myself from that situation completely. I think I'll just tell him I think we're looking for different things...

    Ugh even the ugliest and nastiest of straight guys seem to be able to easily find normal attractive girlfriends and have normal healthy relationships. Lesbians have it even better, not having to deal with men at all. Men are creeps. Navigating the pitfalls of gay male dating culture is a Sisyphean task. There are like, no normal gay guys out there. And I'm tired of being alone...:tears:
     
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    Well, they say that love makes you crazy. Rakkaus, you've gone off the deep end.
    I concede that this man has demonstrated a "softer side".
    But that's like saying that since Hitler liked dogs, maybe he wasn't so bad.
    Although... There is one possibility we may have overlooked.
    Perhaps he was joking about that Nazi thing. I mean, he is a Jew.
     
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    Well maybe it was all a joke. Jewish humor. Maybe he is putting on act for the sake of camp. I don't even know any more. I think maybe some more text conversation will help me decide what to do with him.

    But right now I'm dealing with this situation with the Hispanic guy I just met online last night. I never responded after he said he wanted me to join him and his friend for "kinky" "fun" tomorrow morning. Now a few hours later he asked "did I say something wrong" so I have to come up with some sort of response. At this point I've rather lost interest in him, I need to let him down easy somehow :bang:.
     
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    I think you should talk to a friend who could give you their honest opinion on this dude, after meeting him and talking to him.

    But solely based on what you tell us, he's a nutcase, and this time, your anxiety is more than legitimate.

    That's all I have to say.
     
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    Erik, your energy should go into loving and believing in yourself. You can't love anyone else in a healthy way until you can love yourself, and you have a lot of work to do there first.

    I don't really expect you to take that advice any more than you've been willing to take any other advice in this thread, but I encourage you to at least think about it. I promise you it would be worth it.
     
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    I'm sorry that most men are pigs, it makes me sad actually because that means that it will probably be very hard for me to find someone legitimate. I just came out and I'm still just fantasizing about love, only the love I'm hoping for is a little different and the idea makes me a lot happier.