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Do straight people turn gay?

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by Hope4love, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. Nickw

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    I agree with what love4ever has written and not the mis interpretations here.

    As a bisexual male that tried to fit in with the gay men for awhile at social functions I have been taken aback at the attitudes EXPRESSED about sex with women.

    I have been made to feel like my sexuality is disgusting. It is so odd that a group of people that have been persecuted for their sexual practices would react this way.

    Thing is. I don't feel that individually these guys feel this way. It's sort of a cultural thing in my experience...That sex with women is gross.

    Love4ever. I don't think this is a battle that bisexuals can win. I'm learning that it is less disturbing for some straight guys that I have sex with men than some gay guys that I have sex with women! For some reason, some of the gay guys take it personally. I've been flat out asked why I would have sex with a woman after having sex with a man.

    Very demeaning.

    I understand the defense mechanism triggered and all that. I also understand the struggles of dealing with a society that does not accept them. But, it still hurts.
     
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    Thank you! I am glad you understood what I meant. That is what I was trying to get across. Not that in any way gay men should be ashamed of liking men.
     
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    This is definitely not true. Being bisexual DOES NOT make you disgusting at all. Those guys are just jerks to say stuff like that. Honestly, I think it must be so hard to be a bi man. For what it's worth, I am completely supportive of bi guys and would love to meet one in real life. Where I live I have only met gay men who were out and proud. So there are plenty of girls (and guys), who will love yo for you.
     
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    I actually agree with this--as long as you take the proviso that you yourself provide: "for people who grew up in a place where the majority of people were straight but there was no shame in not being so..." The thing is, though, I don't know anyone who grew up that way. Utah in the seventies and eighties certainly wasn't that way for me. If you grew up that way I am genuinely happy for you--and more than a little curious where you grew up. I like to think that Chicago in 2018 is pretty close to that for me but people come on here all the time who are in Chicago and much younger than I am and they make it pretty clear it's not that way for them. I think you're right though that in that setting the type of thing I was describing wouldn't happen, and I actually think we're headed in that direction and may even get there some day. That's what I was referring to when I said that what I was describing would hopefully happen less and less over time. But I've seen no evidence we're there yet.

    I feel like your argument is less an argument about the relative weakness of heteronormativity and more a discussion of the world after heteronormativity. After all, the "shame in not being so" is the normative part after all. But I agree that if we somehow move past heteronormativity we will also move past its effects. I hope we get there...
     
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