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  1. Lia444

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    Probably not the best forum to ask this on but had another therapy session today which got me thinking more....

    Anyway do straight girls do these things

    Watch lesbian films, porn and read lesbian romance books - I haven't always done this but some of the reviews for the books I bought were from straight women and also have read online that some straight women enjoy watching lesbian porn

    I can list loads of female actresses and singers that I like and can only remember the names of some male ones. I would go and see a film because it's got xyz actress in it which I thought most women did as wouldn't you identify more with your own sex and prefer watching them. I would watch films with well known male actors in too but wouldn't see if just because it had brad Pitt in it let's say but most films have male and female leads.

    I'm a facts person so my therapist said ok we are in a court room and she listed all these things that suggest your gay and you now list the ones that you think make you straight and my mind went blank!

    I have lots of dreams about being with women too. I did none of this a year ago though so am struggling to accept that I am most likely gay!
     
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    If you relate to lesbian facts and dream of being with a woman, you are probably a lesbian.

    That said, being interested in certain films, porn, or books doesn't indicate sexuality. Straight women can enjoy lesbian media, and lesbians can enjoy straight or gay male media. Just because straight women can enjoy lesbian media doesn't mean you have to question or second guess yourself, though. When people say "straight women enjoy lesbian media too", it doesn't mean that "lesbians don't exist/you're straight in denial" if YOU like that kind of thing. It just means that "People can enjoy media irrelevant of sexuality, and that applies to everyone." Personally, I am a lesbian and I hate most lesbian media. I prefer heterosexual and male/male stuff, but that does not make me straight or bi.
     
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    I think most straight girls dont do those things no. Sure there are probably some that do but also sexuality is not as easy as gay, straight and bi so very few people are 100% straight so those who say they are straight may have a small attraction to girls, its just not as dominant as their attraction to guys.
    I certainly think straight girls dont dream of being with other girls.

    I thought I was straight until I was 25 and then I started questioning my sexuality. Up until that point I had never looked and girls and thought I was attracted to them, I hadnt conciously been surpressing my sexuality, I didnt check girls out or anything but the more I questioned the more girls entered my head, so what you are experiencing isnt that uncommon.
     
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    The therapist mentioned something about a chicken and egg scenario so did I think about women first then research lgbt and watch films etc or the other way round. I remember looking into female orgasm as this is something I had never experienced and thought it was about time I did so googled about that alot and watched some porn and I think then I had dreams about sleeping with women that then led me to research lgbt etc and watch and read everything gay I could find. She also said that straight people don't question whether they are straight and try and find evidence to prove that they are so why do you need to do this? She asked a lot of tough questions which I struggled to answer and I agree with most of what she says but am still struggling. We will be discussing society and what we learn from that growing up as I seem to keep saying this is what you're brought up to think and what so and so would think but know I need to just go with what I think! Sorry for the ramblings hoping now I've written it down I will be able to sleep.
     
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    Yeah, it definitely depends why you're doing this. It would be weird for a straight person to look up LGBT stuff in particular to "prove" something.
     
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    Sorry I didn't word that very well I didn't research lgbt stuff to prove that I'm gay I was just curious as it's all new to me and i tend to research the hell out of things to fully understand them. I guess I sort of have a crush on someone and she said would you act on those feelings and I said if she liked me then it would be something I would like to explore but still this isn't enough for me as I keep looking for more concrete evidence and reasons to prove I'm gay but at the same time can't think of anything that proves I'm straight. which is sort of what I was getting at before as straight people don't question they are straight they just are so why can't I do the same.
     
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    You definitely don't sound straight at all.
     
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    Ha I get it entirely. It's like it doesn't matter how much evidence is pointing to gay you always want a bit more. Questioning your sexuality can be completely brain scrambling and I do think writing it down and talking about it helps or at least it did for me, otherwise things go round and round in your head so much it makes you dizzy.
     
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    After my session last week I couldn't sleep as so much was going round in my head so I wrote it all down and emailed it to her and we are going through it so hopefully in a few weeks things will be clearer. I'm definitely grateful that I found this forum, thanks for replying ladies
     
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    Just let us know if you have any more questions. I have been out for a very long time (13 years) and I know Silverhalo is pretty good with advice too. We'd be happy to help if anything else confuses you.
     
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    I had a reoccurring dream most of my life where I was sleeping with a girl but I was a man always the same dream (I assumed I was a man but now I understand how I can be in the same position and still be a girl :grin:). This really bothered me because I thought I had gender issues or something and I have always been a tomboy liking things boys like. I also would get strong feelings for close female friends that I thought I was confusing relationship feelings for friendship. I was able to ignore these things for at least 15 years. About 9 months ago I watched a movie where two woman fell in love and I found myself totally relating to it. I didn't register it as a lesbian romance it was just a normal romance and it felt so right. I watched this movie like 40 times even went on and on about it at work and home. I started watching all the lesbian movies I could find and I really enjoyed them. I also thought back on my life and looked at pictures of myself. Then 4 months later I came here and started reading other peoples stories. I decided I was at the very least bi but with strong feelings towards woman romantically and sexually. Since then I have had several other dreams of being with a woman and now I am able to be a woman in the scenario. I know I like being a girl and that I can like things that most girls don't like as well as dress differently. I think my mind was playing some massive tricks on me. The thing is I picked a label that I thought was close enough for right now but I would not be surprised if later another label was more approriate. Not that you need a label or anything. Oh and since I allowed myself to feel these things I noticed I am able to look at woman and determine if I am attracted to them or not. I thought it was only people I knew in person. I guess I allowed me to be more of myself openly.
     
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    I thought I was the only one who imagined myself as a man before I accepted what I was!
     
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    I wish I had been exposed to more lgbt people or movies earlier in life heh. Hopefully not TMI but my dream was always me having sex like a man from behind and now I am not as naive seeing what type of toys are available to woman. I am also surprised in myself after reading several not so standard lesbian romances that I might even be more adventurous than I thought with the right person whom I trusted.
     
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    so much of what @dreemingfreely has written resonates with me... It is as if you have written my post!!
    Me too. Except the other way around!

    Exactly. Again the other way around! I was very very scared and confused and had no where to turn to..

    Except the other way around. Ignored totally as much as I could. Strange how the mind is able to do this.

    Again the other way around but exactly what I feel. I know I like being a man and can like a man!
    Exactly how I feel. I know I can look at a man and not feel guilty about it at all but enjoy it too!

    Sometimes I can't understand how long it took me to realise all this and I am glad I have accepted myself. Otherwise life would have been a living hell. I feel for those who are in denial or closeted - it must be so difficult.
     
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    I think my problem is that if I come out to myself and truly believe I'm gay then it becomes real and that scares me as I will have to tell people in order to be me and not hide me. I know that if I've got it wrong then it's not a big deal to change later down the line but it's the putting this new me out there that I'm afraid of. Not really sure why as I should stop worrying about what other people think.
     
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    In all honesty, as you get used to it....It's not really a big deal. There are a million reasons people can be hated and discriminated against by peers, and homosexuality is not the only one. I face more social rejection for my disability than I do for my sexual orientation, and that started as young as five years old. By the time I figured out my sexuality, the idea of "nobody liking me" was already something I lived with, so I didn't really care. If you're new to social rejection, it can be scarier, but I've noticed that It's less likely to happen these days with sexual orientation. I haven't received a single negative comment after coming out so sometimes we just build assumptions in our heads that aren't there. And if we do get rejected, we need to learn how to live with that because we could face the same issue if something else happens that others disapprove of. That is not to invalidate your feelings as they are valid, but It's something LGBT people need to face and to not run away from.

    BTW I've changed my sexuality label before from bi to gay, but I haven't had issues with confusing anyone.
     
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    I completely get this. Real = scary.

    What is the one thing you are most scared of? Or two things if you can't chose.
     
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    I'm not really sure this might take some more thought! I've never been one to talk about personal stuff so whenever anyone ever asked me anything I would always lie and just say what they expected to hear which became a sort of habit so now if I'm going to be the real me I can't lie anymore and putting your heart and emotions out there is probably what scares me the most. I know I need to get out there and meet gay people etc as they don't know me so there is no need to lie and they won't judge or at least I hope the majority won't and then I can work on being me with the people I know but it's finding the courage. Or maybe I should bite the bullet and be me with the people that matter to me most and hope that doesn't backfire and make me more confused! I've been looking at meet ups etc and there isn't much to choose from and I won't go on my own so thought online dating would be easier as it's one to one but again it's finding the courage.
     
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    I get it 100%. I've been where you are now and I know to think that now doesn't seem right but honestly when I was first questioning my sexuality I was kind of like even if this is true and I decide I'm gay there is absolutely no way I am ever going to be able come out to anyone so what's the point.
    You can have more time to think, you don't have to even answer it here if you don't want to. I just think if you can work out what scares you the most or your worst case scenario then you can work on making it it less scary and how to work around it.

    It's a tough one sometimes to decide how to go about approaching it, you have to go with what feels right or best to you. There are advantages and distadvantages of both options. Coming out to those you know can sometimes be harder than people you have just met because with close friends and family you have more to lose, they are your support network and social life and they are intertwined in your life so it feels as though a negative reaction could cause more devastation if it were to happen. On the plus side though people who know you are Moreno likely to be supportive, I mean friends that really care are more likely to stick by you.
    Starting out with strangers gives you that distance in that if people reacted negatively (not that you would get this at an LGBT group) you can just walk away and carry on as if nothing had happened. You can also try and build a positive support network of LGBT friendly people for when the time come to come out to friends and family.
    Sometimes it's harder to talk to people you don't know and sometimes if you are trying to turn over a new leaf it's easier. There is definitely no right or wrong just whatever feels best to you.

    I came out first to my best friend she was great. I did go to a meet up once, it was just difficult because they used to meet on a night I was busy so I didn't really get chance to go again.

    Do you think your friends and family are generally LGBT friendly?
     
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    Thank you for your reply that really helped. I casually said something to my sister the other week and she said she wouldn't care if I was gay and I don't think my mum and sister would care either if they could see that I was happy. I don't think the men in the family would be quite so open but I'm sure the women could talk them round. I have something happening next week where depending how that plays out I might speak to my other sister. Sometimes my mind goes clear and I've stopped thinking about it all. I don't want to be questioning forever but I feel if these thoughts go out of my head then I think that it was all in my head or a phase and I've got over it.