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Do lesbians and bisexual girls encounter bullying from other girls?

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  1. thexboxguy

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    Hello everyone, I'm a 25 year old bisexual guy and I have nothing against lesbian and bisexual girls. Actually, I support the LGBT community since I'm part of it, although there are certain things I don't like about it.

    I tend to respect everybody. However, what I've been wondering for a while is if lesbian and bisexual girls encounter bullying from other girls just like gay and bisexual guys do from some guys. I've seen a lot of cases in which some gay and bisexual guys get bullied by other guys. Whereas, I've never seen or heard of any a case in which lesbian and bisexual girls are bullied by other girls.

    I often see on tv girls making out in order to get attention from guys almost all the time and nobody takes them seriously, they even touch each other to look sexy but I bet if it were two guys making out, they'd start getting called homophobic slurs/names such as the F word.

    Don't you think society is unfair to us?

    Are lesbian and bisexual girls as discriminated as gay and bisexual girls in USA and the rest of english speaking countries?

    How good or bad is my english?

    it isn't my native language, so I'd appreciate if someone let me know if I'm getting better or not?
     
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    I feel like if lesbian and bisexual girls are usually made invisible by society.
     
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    Personally, I was. I've lost female friends in the past because I came out, this one girl said that we could no longer be friends if I ever came out as gay or bi to her. Yeah, it was one of the reasons I was initially concerned at the prospect of coming out.

    I knew these two girls who would make up chants about me on my assumed sexuality, and pressured me into coming out.

    Guys have also been mean to me about it, one time this guy who I think had a crush on me heard some rumours about my sexual orientation, so when he next saw me he spat on the ground and rubbed his shoe in it as if to say I was dirt to him. :slight_frown:
     
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    It does happen, but I feel like both lesbians and gay men face more problems from straight men than from other women.

    With women, I get emotionally bullied, called names, and told that they can't be friends with a gay person, but with straight men there's a bigger risk of violence.

    There is a misconception that straight men "love" lesbians because they like porn of us. In reality, if they find out that a woman is not attracted to men at all, they change their tune REALLY fast. They start to get violent, threatening, call us "dykes", and will possibly assault or rape us (gay men face more physical violence while lesbians face more sexual violence). Most men who watch "lesbian porn" are also the kind of guys who would disown a real lesbian daughter and vote "no" on same sex marriage of either gender.

    I feel like gay men are discriminated against more for liking men, while lesbians are for not liking men. Most of the hate and violence toward us has nothing to do with "liking women" (no one cares honestly), and everything to do with "not liking men".

    In the case of bisexuals, the hate and violence comes more from men being entitled to threesomes and reacting badly if they don't get what they want.
     
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  5. I’m not a girl, but I’m AFAB and in the closet about being trans, and I’m bi. The guys could be pretty mean, and so were the girls. I was treated horribly by girls. One girl I sat next to in class would always be sure to say how disgusting I looked with my haircut and guys clothes every day. Two girls I sat next to in another class treated me like I wasn’t even human. One was worse than the other. I’m actually good friends with the other one now, but she was still pretty mean too. Every day the meaner girl would call me a faggot, and we had to work on a project together and they both just mocked me the whole time. Being in the closet made it so much worse. I felt worthless. Homophobic guys can scare you, but homophobic girls are definitely the most heartless from my experiences.
     
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    Yes, we also get bullying from other women. I've also experienced the emotional bullying and the namecalling Creativemind mentioned but then my male gay colleague experiences them too.
     
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    I think it has to do a lot on where you live and the culture and education of the people. I always read about how LGBT people get bullied and molested and that kind of stuff, but honestly, I've never witnessed bullying where I live. I go to school in Ireland and have a few girlfriends in the LGBT community who are very open about their sexualities. They have never been called names or bullied because of it and are treated like every other person. Of course, this is in a school environment, I don't know if it would be any different in a work environment or anything similar but I don't think so since the people here are known for being nice to everyone. Of course, there are a few exceptions but I feel like that happens everywhere.

    Your English is very good by the way, I'm also from Mexico and learning English! :grin:
     
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    In my personal opinion lesbian & bisexual girls do get bullied on almost an equivalent level as males, but the difference is that generally with girls it's a different form of bullying. Like some previous posts I lost friends due to coming out, also with girls it's like they talk, but not straight out like guys do, girls like to be secretive and love gossip, so instead of getting direct verbal negativity you'll instead get stares and rudeness. Some girls may even appear as if they think being lesbian is contagious. haha. For me when I was younger after coming out as a lesbian it was a lot of awkwardness and loneliness for a time period. From my experience also some males like to rudely refer to a girl as a lesbian and spread rumors out of anger because the girl didn't want to be with them. Just saying.

    I feel like on some level it's actually slightly more difficult for males in society to be gay. Some males are just flat out mean, and have 0 sympathy, like I was saying above males are more verbally direct than females, which leads to the name calling, making stupid jokes, and dumb statements. Plus there's the whole stereotype thing for males, ya know according to some people you're supposed to be all gross, manly, and buff, which in my opinion is usually why some males are targeted as gay, even if they've not came out. I feel like too that some guys are very mean to gay guys because on some level they're possibly homosexual too. Makes sense. Add high levels of testosterone to all I've just said and yeah, total explanation.

    To answer a couple more questions I do feel that every society is totally unfair to LGBT people on some level, however being from the U.S. I can't complain, we have it 100% better than some other countries. As I said I'm from the U.S. and yes we do have discrimination, but no I would say that it's not as equal as some other countries. I feel like the murder/crime rate involving LGBT victims in some other countries are statistically and factually higher than the U.S. and forms of discrimination/abuse are different and in some cases more dangerous.

    Your written English is good by the way! I wouldn't have guessed it wasn't your native language had that not been added at the bottom of your post :slight_smile: