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Chronic Health, Sexuality and Intersectionality

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  1. sugarhiccup

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    Hi,

    I am a newcomer and guess seeking advice. If you are able to offer any advice I would appreciate it.

    Am just enquiring if there are any people on here who have chronic health problems, how do you cope with the intersectionality?

    Am in my mid 30s and have had chronic illness majority of my life which has limited me a lot. It's made me mainly housebound and isolated me from the local LGBT+ community. I didn't come to terms with my sexuality til my late 20s. I just feel alienated.

    Due to health reasons I find it hard socialising on 'The Scene'. I try to socialise online via LGBT+ groups and dating sites but I haven't formed any meaningful connections via these sites yet.

    I have been to in-person women's LGBT+ groups when well but I haven't been able to form any acquaintance bonds with any of the other members unfortunately as I don't go regularly enough due to my health.

    I do have a counsellor I talk too and he is great but he can't fully relate to my intersectional identity problems e.g. being semi disabled, a lesbian and other things that make me more intersectional.

    My straight friends are great but I can't really talk about LGBT+ stuff with them. My family erase my sexuality by not acknowledging who I am. It's like indirect lesbophobia/homophobia with them. I don't stress about it with them. I just accept they don't understand and it's ignorance why they don't. Have done explaining to them or trying to get them to understand.

    Not really after pity or sympathy, just needed a release from feeling trapped mentally and reaching out to other likeminded people.

    Thanks :slight_smile:
     
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    sugarhiccup.....Hello and a great big LGBTQIA+ welcome to Empty Closets! :old_smile: I can remember the first post that I made on EC. I was desperate for help and I got the help that night that I so needed. I hope that we can help you in the same way that I received help. The most important thing to remember about Empty Closets is that we do care about you! We're very glad that you found us here on EC and hope that we can answer questions, give you support and provide a place to vent (as long as it's not violent!) :old_big_grin: when that becomes necessary!

    *****There are 18 different sub-forums here that you can check out and join in the conversations or start your own thread/conversation. When I first joined Empty Closets I was in need of a lot of support and encouragement and I found it here…EC is a safe place. I hope that you'll find good things here too! Folks here will talk to you and share...you don't have to be afraid of asking questions...we're glad to have you! To a degree, I understand what you are talking about and how you feel. We're all different anyway so I don't think that anyone should be saying "I know exactly how you feel". I've had 22 surgeries in my life. Seven of them have been spinal surgeries. Other than the top two vertebrae, my spine is completely fused...it does not bend at all. That causes some significant mobility issues. I've learned to do my best to deal with it but there are many things that I am unable to do no matter how hard I try. Some are very personal and I have to either use medical assistive devices or have help. The alternative for me would have been a wheelchair for the rest of my life so I accept my limitations and feel fortunate that medical science has allowed me as much freedom as I have. I am also very prone to pneumonia having had it 13 times in the last 10 years. Several times I was hospitalized for lengthy stays because of it. So I have to be very careful of that too. There is no question that health issues can have a negative effect on my emotions as well as being able to meet people and get to know friends, etc. It becomes an effort that can at times be exhausting. At the same time it's important to do one's best to avoid being a "shut-in" anymore than what is absolutely necessary. I have times when I simply just cannot go out to a play or a movie, etc.. There are times when I have to force my self to go...I know I need to and when I do I find that I really do enjoy my self. :old_smile: I'm only speaking about myself...but perhaps what I've experienced is something that may be helpful for you. It's not always easy, in fact at times it's outright impossible. But I have found that there are many times when I think I can't do it...but I really can and and I am so glad when I get myself up and go! "old_big _grin:

    Some info on how to navigate EC:
    When you have made at least 10 posts on various threads you will be able to post messages on a member's Profile Page. Just click on a member's Avatar Picture and then click on "Profile Page" in the dialogue box that pops up. You'll then be on their Profile Page and there will be a box that says: "Write Something" When you have been on EC for a few weeks and have made at least 50 posts on various forums, you can apply for Full Membership. A Full Member can send Private Messages (PM) to other Full Members and share personal contact info. Right now you can only send a PM to a Staff Member as that is always possible. Here is a quote from the Full Membership information forum: :old_cool:

    *****To be eligible you must be a member of Empty Closets for a minimum of two weeks, and have a minimum of 50 posts. These posts must be across numerous forums (Fun & Games does not contribute to post count), and consistently posted across a minimum of two weeks. You wouldn't be eligible, for example, if you registered, had no activity for two weeks, and then returned to post 50 times on your 14th day of membership.

    *****Well, as I said, we're very glad you found us! :old_rolleyes: If you have any questions at all, you can always send me a Private Message.

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  3. sugarhiccup

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    Hi quebec thanks for the welcome .

    How do you send a reply to a public wall messages?
     
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    Welcome to the EC! :slight_smile:

    You need to have 10 messages in the forums and then you can start posting on public wall too. For that just need to be active and you can do it in no time.

    I can also feel you about the health worries, so hugs your way and sorry that your family don't acknowledge you. This is the best way to probably stay connected, because I have no lgbtqia+ friends outside either and this forum has helped and supported me a lot, so I hope you get all the support you wish as well. If you ever wish to talk then you can also send PM to any staff member what is the little envelope icon in the right corner and just writing their username with who you wish to talk to.
     
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    Hi Rayland, thanks for the welcome :slight_smile: . Likewise thanks for information re: public wall messages. Am OK at the moment thanks, hugs to you too if you are struggling health wise at the moment. Thanks I just let it slide with my family and not let it bother me.
     
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    Hi there! First off, welcome to EC! You've already met a few very nice members here, and there are plenty more, so do stick around and you will at least have some outlet for the lack of LGBTQ+ interactions in your life. This is actually one of the primary reasons why I joined this forum.

    I do not have any chronic health problems, so I can't really identify with you on that topic, but there are a couple things that stood out to me from what you said.

    I get feeling isolated/alienated. For me it's literal in that I live in a country other than my country of origin, and I've only been here for less than a year. So isolation and alienation from the life I knew and the friends and relatives at home is a very day to day experience for me, but it's getting better, slowly.

    Dating sites can be a real dead end if you're not actively seeking others out. I was on one briefly and am considering joining another one so I can "get out there," and women specifically are very passive compared to men. So a lesbian who waits to be contacted may not ever get contacted.

    Why can't you talk to your straight friends about LGBTQ+ stuff? Do you feel like they are like your therapist, they just don't get you or what you are going through so they are ill equipped? You also mentioned that your family "erase" your sexuality. What does that mean? Like they deny you're a lesbian, or they refuse to talk about it when the subject comes up?
     
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    Hi Wanderlost,

    Thanks for the welcome :slight_smile:

    Sorry that you are isolated at the moment . That's pretty cool that you moved to another country. Am glad this forum helps you. How are you liking the country you moved too?

    Yeah I get what you are saying re: dating sites. I am direct and do initiate conversation with other queer women on dating apps. It's just those conversations die after a few messages, then you get ghosted on the sites I have tried anyway. You never seem to get a decent two way conversation to be honest. I am not giving up hope though :slight_smile:

    Hope your experience on the sites you choose are better and you get to meet new people soon.

    My straight friends accept me as a person and my sexuality they just can't relate to the experiences I have had in life due to my sexuality. So I guess they are ill equipped to advise me. I still have a good laugh with them though and value their friendship.

    By erase I mean my parents especially hate to admit I am not straight and when I bring my sexuality up occasionally they act like I didn't say anything. They just don't want to engage with that line of conversation and would just rather ignore it than acknowledge it. If that makes sense?
     
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    The country I moved to is the USA, and I do like it so far. I mean, I expected I'd like it. I was here (in another part of the country) a few years ago on a vacation with my family, but two weeks vacation is not the same as living here. I'm also not here permanently as I'm just here on a student visa.

    I hear you on the two way conversation thing. At first I thought that my generation has lost the ability to communicate properly, but I think it has more to do with a lack of effort with online engagements. It's a quick hit social experience and most don't find the time to bother with lengthy dialog, especially if it's by way of smart phone.

    It sounds like your parents are coping with some internalized or interpersonal homophobia. I do hate that term because it's not even a "phobia" as much as it's an "ism." They probably are still uncomfortable with being open about it, possibly worrying about being stigmatized or worse, just not liking the fact that their daughter is queer despite being accepting or supportive of LGBTQ+ in a general sense. Another, less problematic but maybe even more complicated problem is they may not understand the point of it being a topic at all. Sort of like being heterosexual is never really "a topic" for straight people. I've noticed this attitude. Straight people living within millennia old heteronormative societies don't discuss their orientation so why should we? Anyway, sorry I feel like I got you off on my own and not the one you inquired about.
     
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    Hi Wonderlost, welcome to EC. You’ll love it here and the support is so right on. There are so many people here & we all want to support each other. I haven’t been here long but I feel right at home. Really too bad we can’t have the same conversations with family and old friends and instead feeling totally freaked about even telling them, much less having the real discussions that should be happening. There afraid. I’ve learned though to get what I need through other people who care because they’ve been there. The other thing that makes a difference is supporting others. That’s what happens right here. We support you and care about you and want to support you. Again welcome. lf I can help in any way let me know.
     
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    Hey Wanderlost,

    Am glad you're enjoying the US and hope you have a decent time for as long as you're staying there for your studies :slight_smile:

    Yeah I agree that people don't have the time to engage online a lot of the time. Am more chilled and willing to put the time in talking to other people. I just wish I didn't have to be reliant on socialising online during my ill health relapses. I do prefer socialising in person to be fair.

    I think you do have a point about older generations not wanting to talk about sexuality in general never mind LGBTQ+, as anything other than heterosexuality was taboo. I do think with my parents this is partly to blame but also internalised and interpersonal homophobia are to blame too.

    My parents I do think are homophobic but they just don't air their opinions. They are really in denial that I am a lesbian and they don't want to accept. I have given up hope they ever will accept. All that matters is when I am with a partner they don't minimalise our relationship. As long as my partner is happy I don't care what my family think as it isn't directly affecting them. I am pretty private about my sexuality anyway. So I don't get their shame of anyone else knowing. Thanks for listening to me ramble on about this stuff. I am just disappointed that my family won't tolerate my sexuality and agree to disagree about it.

    Hi 74andconfused

    Thanks for the welcome and kind words :slight_smile:
     
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    Hey sugarhiccup! Y’all must think about you age and your parents, etc. Our world is still scared sh*tless bout us. They won’t get over it until we normalize the truth of our bodies being ‘different’ because our consciousness is not going to align with the the ‘norm’. We’re all normal though and we have to be strong and convinced that we don’t let the other thinkers scare us. That’s my take on it anyway. That includes our parents and other family. That’s coming from the person that’s scared beyond belief about telling his wife I’m not just trans, I’m Bi. Thank you for being there and making who we are sane. You all help me sooo much. Thank you for being there.
     
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    Hello All.....I have to agree with some of this conversation, in that my generation - Baby Boomers - just did not talk about sex period. So for many people whose parents are in my generation or close to it, there is a problem when someone close turns out to be queer. Those parents just don't know how to deal with it. So they often retreat into either total rejection or an effort to completely ignore the uncomfortable situation. It's sad, but unfortunately true. :old_frown: The best hope is that their love for their children will, over time, win out and allow those parents to gradually accept their children, especially if they see them in a happy, committed same-sex relationship. My best advice :old_rolleyes: is to try to keep communication as open as is possible in the hope that recognition and acceptance will eventually happen. I realize that there are times when the rejection can be so intense that keeping communication open is just not possible. Perhaps doing your best to "be the bigger person" and separate yourself from the bad situation as politely as you can is all that you can do. However, if you can do that, then you will not have to carry around the guilt of having intense negative words with your parents the last time you saw them. We all have enough that can pull us down without adding that to the mix. This is my opinion and I really do realize that it's not going to work for everyone! :old_smile: But I can always hope that it will help! :old_big_grin:
    .....David :gay_pride_flag:
     
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    @74andConfused Thanks, yeah we're all normal and should never doubt it . I hope it goes well when you do have that conversation with your wife. Good Vibes .

    @quebec Thanks for your advice :slight_smile:. I do keep respectful with my parents and family. I just have to do some mental gymnastics e.g. compartmentalise my thoughts, feelings around them. Whereas with friends I can just 'be'
     
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    Well I had that conversation with my wife last night. OMG it was crazy and so freeing at the same time. My marriage is so out of balance right now. I just can’t write about it yet. I have to process through it before I can make any sense out it. Wish me luck. Thanks everyone!
     
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    I don't know what to say. What you did is so inspirational and heroic. You should be very proud of yourself. I know your wife may not take this so well. I don't know her orientation and all that, but you put it all on the line and that's very commendable. *huge hugs*
     
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    OMG, thank you so much! More to come….
     
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    74.....I remember when I had that conversation with my wife. It was very difficult and there were many tears. However, it was the right thing to do and I've never regretted it. I am happy for you! :old_smile: and hope that things will work out for the best.
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    Thank you so much David! Don’t have a clue where we’ll end up yet, but I do feel so excited about getting it out. The discussion is ongoing but we’re treading very carefully around each other. Thanks again for your support. More to come.
     
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