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Bury Your Gays

Discussion in 'Entertainment and Technology' started by HedaGR, Aug 14, 2020.

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Have you ever abandoned a show because of the death of an LGBTQ character?

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  1. HedaGR

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    Hey guys i'm currently studying a lot about the Bury Your Gays trope. I'm focusing on it for my MA thesis so i would like to know what you think of it. For those who never heard of it this trope, it is connected to the presentation of deaths of LGBT characters where these characters are nominally able to be viewed as more expendable than their heteronormative counterparts. It's basically the disproportionate amount of deaths of LGBT characters in comparison to straight ones and usually their death is connected to their sexual orientation (eg. as a punishment) or it is happening in order to move forward a straight character's narrative arc.

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    Has it ever affected you as a member of tv show's fandom?
    Do you think it reflects society?
    How do you think it affects teenagers and people in general?
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    Feel free to expand your thinking i could use some fan feedback!
     
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    Were you aware of it in the first place?
    Yup, I frequent TV Tropes.
    Has it ever affected you as a member of tv show's fandom?
    I don't watch TV, so nope.
    Do you think it reflects society?
    Sometimes.
    How do you think it affects teenagers and people in general?
    I don't know about them, but it doesn't affect me, personally. Death is inevitable, whether you're straight, gay, bi, etc. So, I guess you could call it Truth in Television.
     
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    I have to say I've been avidly watching gay characters in media ever since Steve Carrington in Dynasty in 81 and I can't really think of an example of what you're talking about. I guess I just watch the wrong shows.
     
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    I've heard of it and seen it in terms of POC, but honestly I hadn't heard of it in terms of LGBT. I don't watch a lot of TV, but honestly can't think of an example.
     
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    It is actually a really disturbing phenomenon. It manifested in 2016 with the death of an lesbian character in the tv show The 100. It led to trends like #lexadeservedbetter and #lgbtfansdeservebetter that dominated media for more than 2 days. I suggest you guys look it up especially if you watch queer content
     
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    "Were you aware of it in the first place?"
    Very.

    "Has it ever affected you as a member of tv show's fandom?"
    Yes. I've quit shows for Burying Their Gays. I've refused to watch shows because someone told me they Bury Their Gays. I've quit shows for unrelated reasons only for them to later Bury Their Gays.

    "Do you think it reflects society?"
    No. I think it's more a reflection of the general demographic of writers/directors/producers/executives. If everyone involved in the production of a show is straight, then there's no one to say "Hey, maybe we should have more diversity" or "Hey, maybe we shouldn't kill this character." Introducing a minor queer character and then killing them off a season later also gives the illusion of diversity while avoiding the risk of upsetting your more conservative viewers (*cough*NCIS*cough*).

    "How do you think it affects teenagers and people in general?"
    It takes a mental toll when the only characters you have in media who are like you are the ones who die or end up unhappy and alone.


    I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but Bury Your Gays has been an issue for decades before The 100. It comes from a time that anything that could be seen as "endorsing" homosexuality couldn't be published, and so the only published novels featuring queer characters were ones that ended with their death or, at the very least, a great deal of queer misery. The 100 fandom was not the first to recognize it as a problem, nor did that show invent the trope.
     
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    I had heard about it but hadn’t watched a show that had killed off a gay character. I think I heard about it happening in Chicago Fire before the 100. I was watching The 100 for the sole purpose of seeing Clarke and Lexa get together. Lexa died and I was done. I heard Wynnona Earp was deliberately playing the whole concept when a Lesbian character got shot in the chest but was wearing a bulletproof vest. It’s really annoying when they kill off the sole reason I was watching a show.
     
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    Indeed it was. I know all about the lesbian pulp fiction etc. That's why i said that it manifested with The 100 when it became more known and a huge deal among the fans. It is now considered an issue both for fans and the showrunners. The Batwoman showrunners even made a special announcement to reassure the fans that they won't follow the Bury Your Gays narrative trope.
     
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    Wynonna Earp is known for its 'positive lgbt representation' and until now fans are legitimately invested emotionally on the show and they're not dissapointed. I suggest you watch it all if you haven't so far. The whole bulletproof vest thing didn't really meant to scare off fans. i think it was a loud comment on the Bury Your Gays trope and how the showrunners are vocally against it.
     
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    I love the show and have watched the whole thing more than once. The bulletproof vest thing didn’t scare me off I was very happy there was a show I would still watch. I love strong women in save the day.
     
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    I cannot think of a specific show that I stopped watching due to this. I stopped going out of my way to watch shows with LGBT characters because I got tired of being told by Hollywood that being who I am makes me deserving of death.

    Were you aware of it in the first place?
    Aware of the trope yes

    Has it ever affected you as a member of tv show's fandom?
    I don't think so, I stopped watching shows like that before they became more common

    Do you think it reflects society?
    Yes, I have experienced hate for being me, from family and from people in society in general

    How do you think it affects teenagers and people in general?
    The way that is it designed, it teaches us that LGBT people should not be tolerated.
     
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    Were you aware of it in the first place?

    Yes and hated it to bits. Double so as a WOC.

    Has it ever affected you as a member of tv show's fandom?

    Yes and very much negatively, especially when I was younger.

    Do you think it reflects society?

    Yup. basically it reflects the attitude of tokenism and quickly hiding/removing the "odd one out" once they're done with the brownie points. Obviously not everyone is like this, but enough are to where it's still an issue worth noting.

    How do you think it affects teenagers and people in general?

    I think that unless they are aware that it's just a silly trope, some may take it to heart (like I did) and reinforce that LGBT relationships are inferior and more unstable that straight ones.