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Stress response is causing confusion

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by TinyWerewolf, Apr 4, 2024.

  1. TinyWerewolf

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    i'm in an ok place at the moment, so I finally feel ready to discuss this.

    When I'm very stressed I start questioning myself- in ways such as "Am I fooling myself?", "What if I'm not a man/ regret T or surgery?", "Am I doing this all for nothing?"

    Then when I'm stable again these go away but the pain lingers. I get transphobia shoved in my face about every day, by my parents. Either through Facebook or Newsmax, or talking.

    How do I take them into consideration so I can shut these down?
     
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    Before starting HRT, whenever I had these moments of confusion I would do two things:
    1. Tell myself that I'll do whatever I can to get testosterone, then take every shot as a small step. I used to tell myself I would be able to stop hormones whenever I wanted. I could take it for one week, then if I wanted to stop, I'd stop.

    2. imagine what it would be like to be on HRT, get to a point where I look like a cis man, and then imagining what it would be like if I detransitioned - so basically transitioning back to female. (This causes a lot of dysphoria tho)

    The first one gave me a sense of control - transitioning is a huge step in life, and it's normal to feel doubt or anxiety. But...you can just take on injection. You can stop after that, if you realise it's not for you. It's not the end of the world.
    The second one caused such a gutwrenching reaction that I would start questioning why I was having doubts in the first place. "Of course I wouldn't want to live as a woman after being able to live as a man"
     
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    I may have already mentioned this before, but I would suppress most of your feelings and put your transition on the back burner for now, until you can get the hell out of there and process them in a safe positive environment. I'm not saying to stop what you're doing, but shifting your focus to prioritize moving out.

    I grew up in a very abusive environment and my family members always tried to gaslight me into becoming the robot they wanted me to be. I'll skip all the drama, but I tried to work on my issues and stick to my guns with little to show for it. I realized being in a negative/narcissistic environment would not allow me to flourish and was knocking me more steps back then forward. So I controlled all my feelings the best I could and shifted my focus to surviving and getting the hell out. Only when I got to a safe/positive environment, was I able to truly make progress and truly heal. Don't get me wrong it took a while and it was a lot of hard work. However, the progress I made was challenging rather than burdening like it was in the past.

    I also know from experience you cannot reason or debate with an abuser or gas-lighter. Their narcissism, pride, and stubbornness can't be changed. If you try to shut them down, then they'll only flip the script. It's just a losing battle. All you can do is say no and walk away as soon as possible. Trust me. My mother, sister, and I tried to show our family the light our entire childhood. We lost and got kicked down in the dirt every time. Accept it's a battle that is already lost and remove yourself from the field.

    I know my advice isn't necessarily cheerful but it helped me in my experience to survive in a time of crisis and move forward.
     
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    i think Chillton brings up an important point. i don't know you or your situation more than in a surface way, but i think generally speaking, those closest to us have a lot of emotional effect on us. i suspect a lot of the effects they have are subtle, not easy to put into words. They know our buttons, they're in a powerful position to influence our feelings, even when our mind is made up and we are cognitively certain. Our emotions can take a lot of time to aline with our reason. It's hard to have clarity when your feelings are continuously taking a beating.
     
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    I plan on doing gel, because I hate needles- really hate them. But point taken. As for the second, I'm filled a sense of dread and kind of disgust? A tinge of panic too maybe? It's hard to keep my head from spinning with all the anti trans stuff spewing from my parents sometimes.


    I'm trying to make myself focus, but I have no idea how to shut my emotions off again. I unrepressed a lot around 17 and 18, and kept going until now. I used to cover for my parents, apologizing to teachers and friends for whatever embarrassing thing they did this time. I've at least come to realize they are abusers with some help, but I love them- and that's insanity but true. I don't know how to move forward.


    Yes, to all of that. I am trying to shut out the anti trans attitudes and propaganda, but I'm oversaturated with it from my family. I'm fairly certain this is a stress response that developed from being worn down and majorly insecure. I feel awkward, stupid, and ugly all the time
     
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    Yeah, feelings can be "awkward, stupid and ugly" all on their own. i had the dream last night that left me feeling insecure, stupid and bad. i dreamt i was put on probation at work for doing something i could never figure out, but i felt like such a failure and still felt the threat of it when i woke up. The thing is, i have worked at the same place for 10 years and get exemplary reviews every year, my managers and peers all love me and many come to me when they have a question (i'm very nerdy). i always have stress dreams the day before i go on rotation. I started telling my peers about the dreams, and then others started sharing that they had them too. Life is so full of real stressors, it's totally valid to have a stress response from it. Rationally, i know better, but that doesn't prevent the dreams with the very real feelings that i have to get around. i get it.

    i am very un-photogenic. i look in the mirror and think, that's okay. Then i'll see a pic and think: "wow, i hope i don't really look like that." lol, honestly, i think most of the population is insecure about their looks. But then i'll get a message on a gay dating site from a stranger who thinks i'm hot. Or i'll contact 9 guys i'm interested in and none of them will even respond. There are so many things out there to feed our feelings of insecurity about our looks. So, i go to the gym every other day and do what i call my "skinny white boy routine." To me, everyone there is gorgeous... and i'm,...... mostly tone. But i do get to stare at some really hot guys while i'm there.
     
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    One thing i do when i'm feeling blue is i watch "The Great British Baking Show." i always feel good watching that.
     
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    I too have stress dreams, mostly about my parents (a little about work). I mainly get upset in the dreams because I get caught doing something affirming- and then wake up with that same panic. It's terrifying, usually wake up sweating even. It's hard to get back to sleep after those. I know I likely have some mild PTSD from the past half decade, and these dreams are probably part of it. It's been four years trapped here, five since conciously knowing I'm not straight (four and a half for knowing/suspecting I'm trans). Maybe I should find something calming to watch for after the nighumares like you, thanks for the suggestion.

    I think my main problem is not passing and comparing myself to cis men- thinking I'll never measure up. I'm short, and the fattest I've ever been. Also got ghosted by someone I was into after chatting for months. Then there's being trans and unable to even try to pass- I wish I could bind and pack or just be a cis guy (stupid extra x chromosome!).
     
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    I'm late to this one, Jack. But you know what I think - I can see how you will look once you get the hormones that will affirm who you are and you're going to be a one cool dude! Don't worry about being short - there are plenty of short cis guys. No-one ever looks at a short man and thinks 'oh they must be trans'. You'll pass no problem.

    As for the confusion caused by living in a transphobic household and transphobic society...it's f***ing hard. I know. When I was recovering from my foot op and not being sociable it was difficult seeing the avalanche of anti-trans crap there currently is in the media. It's helped getting out since and meeting up with friends who accept me. It's hard to comprehend how difficult it must be in your situation.

    But you're still here, after four years. I have so much respect for you for the sheer resilience you have shown in that time. You will get out. Soon. And then your life can finally begin, my brother.

    Hugs, Beth xx
     
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    I hope I'll look like my dad to be honest (if I keep my goals realistic). I just wish I was tall too- I think the majority of people who like men want someone tall or at least average height. I'm at least six inches shorter than that, most cis guys tower over me. Guess I'm on par with the rest of my family at least... Still trying to cope with dysphoria and shove it aside for now, then end up questioning myself for doing that. It's a stupid and odd cycle, and I want to put an end to it.

    My lord, there is so much anti-trans garbage out there- basically none of it fact based and so many people consuming it. Trans women get it worse, but us trans men get ignored (convieniently, as our existence would unravel their asinine arguments about trans women in sports or any others they have). The people who do hate on trans men have a (seemingly personal) vendetta against us- calling us self hating lesbians and such. Then you have people who take it a step further and call us all as queer people mentally ill and mistakes- like my family. It's like eating literal bulls**t to just absorb all that on top of the dysphoria. It makes me sick.