General News The 2nd Indictment of 45th President Donald J. Trump

Donald Trump represents a world we are trying to leave behind! Our country needs to move forward and this might be the first step to making that happen. ONLY the first of many steps! There are powerful people rising up on the far right and they may be even more destructive to our community than Trump!

 

He was told many times about preserving documents per the laws but kept ignoring it. He tore up, burned, flushed and possibly ate documents while in office against the laws. Then people kept telling him NO you can't take these with you, they belong to the people of the US. He ignored them and kept packing our documents to steal. Then all the unsafe storage, scheming and obstruction to block their return. It's all his unprecedented fault brought fully upon himself by himself. Yet the "law and order" people ignore all of this by the traitor. I hope justice will prevail and he'll serve prison time or whatever max punishment for being a traitor.

 

Well said! I’m in full agreement!

 

While we get our panties all in a bunch about Trump and his mega secret big scary papers don’t think for a minute that there are not equally dangerous creatures on the other side. Let’s face it, as much a Biden (during his brief periods of discernible cognitive function) pays lip service to our community by making a splash with drag queens and promises to the Trans Community 100% of his allegiance is to multi-national corporations, the Davos world manipulators, Besos/Gates, et al. At his point the only politician that I trust to at least attempt the truth is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
I simply don’t trust a government that will know and monitor your transactions, will take every opportunity to limit free speech, and use its authority to shape your actions and opinions. I want my right to love who I love but I fear that we, brothers and sisters, are being played just as the African American community has been played for decades. Just as they are tantalized by the tasty treat of reparations being dangled in front of their noses there is no chance that black people will ever realize them. It’s the big guns and big money that rules. Let’s not be fooled.

 

You make excellent points!!! Everything you said is correct!!

 

This isn't really true but a good example of how goofy the rest of your post was, just wow! There are many good people in government at all levels but you spread the paranoid idea they're out to get us. We are the government, we the people elect all our reps. by the people for the people and all that right? You are saying the same thing your news sources are coaching you with the whataboutism. That's not a legal defense and super lazy. He's a traitor so lock him up.

What is that even? Did you read the indictment, understand it and think you know more than the people investigating it? Please share how you have all the info you must.

 

Let's talk about specific points. Firstly lets discuss Biden. several characteristics cause me to question his cognition. He has demonstrated confusion of thought regularly and has shown the inability to embark on a consistent thought pattern and express it clearly. Please don't ask me for specific examples because it would take volumes to list them all. His gait and movement patters are clearly suggestive of mid-phase dementia. Can I make a definitive diagnosis from afar? Of course not, however, without going into a urinating contest with you and comparing CVs I can tell you that I have the professional training and experience to raise concerns.

In reference to my so-called paranoia I get my information from various sources left, right, and non-aligned. What I see our government and Western Society gravitating to a condition of Global Corporatocracy rather than democratic republics. National politics is no longer one person one vote but the squaring off of voting blocks by both parties. The left has blocks of blacks, Hispanics, LGBT+++, and feminists. The right has its blocks of conservative rural people, blue collar workers, Evangelicals, and small business owners. Holding the strings of both parties and imperceptibly all of the sub groups are the globalists and corporatists. People like Larry Fink of Blackrock, Soros, Bezos, Jamie Dimon, and Musk among many others make far more impactful decisions directing our lives than you can even think of.

Let's just use the war in Ukraine as an example. The war didn't start in February of 2022, it started in 2014 when the U.S. Government toppled the govt. of Ukraine in a regime change. Russia does not want a NATO aligned Ukraine with over a thousand mile border on its western flank any more than the U.S. wants a CCP or Russian aligned Mexico on our border. So the question is, Who's benefiting for continuing this war? Not me and not you especially if this spins out of control and goes nuclear. But I guess that it's all okay as long as Rathien and General Dynamics post a Pride logo on their web sites.

Germany has threatened foreign journalists with expulsion for criticizing their part in the Ukraine War. The Netherlands is purposely destroying the ability of Dutch farmers to do their craft and wishes to take their land. The U.K. is experimenting with 15 minute zones that fine citizens if they go out of that zone without a permit supposedly for Climate Change. Anybody vote on that? We are already in motion to adopt a digital currency. As Trudeau as demonstrated political enemies can be shut down by freezing finance. It was truckers there but it could be anyone with dissenting opinion here. When political systems cannot tolerate dissent it is the very definition of tyranny.

Finally, let me direct you to two very good and very gay journalist both classical liberals, Glenn Greenwald and Douglas Murray. I think that if you open your mind you will come to appreciate them as I have.

Cheers!

 

To bring it back to the subject of T***p. Beezy, are you not worried about the prospects for the LGTBQ+ community, should the orange ogre win in 2024?

Are you not worried about the prospects for US democracy?

Because from this side of the Atlantic, I'm f***ing terrified.

Beth

 

Thank you for the question Chicodeoro. I'd like a mutually respectful discussion.

If I may I'd like to clear the air by stating as I have in an earlier post made it clear that I support Robert Kennedy, Jr. so I am not in the position to be an apologist for Donald Trump. But let me give a go at what life in the U.S. for gays during his administration. I limit my discussion to gay men and women because I simply am a gay man and really can't speak to what the trans, polysexual, asexual, 2 spirit (whatever that is), intersexsual, etc are frightened of. I must admit that though I'm out on a very limited and personal basis and I haven't made my private business the business of the public at large my life was no different under the Trump regime than it is now.

I am not afraid of Trump or any other Presidential candidate of either party. There is an extremely low possibility of any meaningful infringement of my rights as a gay person. The overwhelming sentiment in the U.S. is affirmative to gay people. What has inflamed the right has been discussion of sexuality to young minors in primary school. Non-LGBTQ++ people consider ages 3-8 to be a sex free zone and resent what they consider preemptive programming of their children. I'm not saying that they are right or wrong but maybe a little sensitivity to others is in order. I must say that the objectional display of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence at the Los Angelos Dodgers game was over the top. This organization in drag with a ghastly caricature of Catholic nuns, one with small satanic horns under her habit, got the attention that they were seeking. The media circulated parade performances of a mocking parody of the crucifixion of Jesus.

My point in bringing this up is that it is fine to press for recognition or enhanced position in society. However, some people within the LGBT++ movement are excessive. I defend their First Amendment right to send out any message that they want. I do draw the line at mocking people's religion or closely held value system. Please lets have a little respect for others and I think that sends a better message that a drag queen with cotton candy hair and pumped up breasts to people who are not seeking that as entertainment. And I have nothing against Drag in its environment. I've enjoyed Drag performance in San Francisco at a gay/lesbian/trans cabaret and I'm sure some straight people do as well.

I only bring up the schools and what I consider as excesses not to criticize other within the LGBT community but to point out where one source of resistance in American Society is coming from. Trump is essentially powerless in enacting any policy that would have adequate support to roll back our rights or suppress us. I know that it's unpopular and controversial on this site to suggest this but I think that it is time to look at ourselves and how we portray ourselves. North Face placed an advert. during Pride month that depicted the campest of the camp drag queen proclaiming in one cut, "I'm homosexual!", and in another version, "I'm gay!" Well you don't represent me. I'm gay too but most gay men are not you. I feel bad for a young person who is struggling with the fact that he is attracted to other boys or young men as I once did and think "is that what I'm going to be?" And more to the point is that what we want the rest of our society to think that this is what it is to be gay?

 

My friends, I’m off the thread and won’t post on the Current Event forum any longer. I do wish you all well and it’s not true that I don’t care about you. I regret that you are offended and apologize for that. I guess that I’m used to posting on some political forums where there is more of a diversity of opinion and is more of an open debate. What a boring world it would be if we all thought the same, looked the same, and spoke the same.

Please stay well and I hope that you have a blessed life.

 

I'll admit, I can be civil with just about anyone- even if highly disrespected. I've had to for work, and I've had to at home. I'm used to these discussions from the other side of the fence. I disagree with mocking religions in general, but legally the drag queens were in their rights. Also, lets not forget the people at pride parades who hold up signs with things like "God hates f***" and remember there is no negative coverage of them aside from us here within the community warning each other. You don't see them on Newsmax or Fox or O.A.N. being demonized, instead you will see drag queens and trans people blatantly being called insane. Just remember that before you try to say trans people aren't under attack please.

 

At this point, I am sick of him and the circus he has created. The day we don't hear from him much or at all can't come soon enough. I am exhausted and what's even more exhausting is learning that some people who you thought were smart and had common sense like him, support him, and make excuses for him.

It's not quite as dreadful as hearing about the Russo-Ukrainian war. You have to tune into the details to see the extent of the devastation and the violence to be shocked. It is very shocking.

We may know more about Trump because it's "local news" for some of us.

Finally, is it any surprise that Trump and Putin got along? Birds of a feather.

 

Indeed. 'Make America great again'/ 'Make Russia great again'/Make Britain great again' etc etc etc . It's all the same old macho imperialist bulls**t that in 2023 really only idiots and the most cynical of rich folks are taken in by. The problem is there are rather a lot of them out there, in whichever country you look at..

Beth