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General News Trump Is Not Well

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by brainwashed, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. Benway

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    It's just not going to happen. Americans are stupid people. I know, I live in the United States. The Republicans have tricked everyone into thinking they're on their side, claiming to be grassroots and creating jobs and supporting Israel to trigger Christ's return when none of those things are true and they're just looking out for the mega-rich. The shadow council has already decided Trump will stay. And don't think for a moment that this Ukraine thing will change anything, Trump will weasel his way out of it just like he's weaseled his way out of everything else. America has embraced neo-fascism, and that's the end of the story. I'm so sorry.
     
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    It's never the end of the story, there are just swings and roundabouts to be navigated, but the story always continues. True there is rot at the top - and doubtless at the bottom, middle and all, but there are signs the left is getting it's act together. It might take a good while yet, but the young, minorities, women, etc, are getting very awake to the possibility of entering politics and when they do, finding a groundswell of support around them. There is hope.

    As for Trump - he is poison. Hopefully he's drunk enough of himself that he'll be toxic to the point the Rep. Party will drop him.
     
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    I implore all American voters to dump Trump from a great height in 2020. I'm afraid your President is alienating all of your natural allies in the world with his double-talk and erratic behaviour and it's having a destabilising effect far beyond your own borders. With Trump in charge, the United States is no longer considered a safe and reliable partner by many European politicians, even if they refuse to admit as much in public. His tendency to rip up agreements and act unilaterally like a mob leader makes it impossible to establish an effective relationship with him and that presents a serious problem for the United States. Ask yourself, would share a confidence or intelligence with a man who has a loose tongue and posts shite to Twitter in the early hours of the morning?

    There are times when it's necessary to hold your nose at the ballot box and 2020 might be such a year for many of you. The only candidate to vote for is the Democrat. It doesn't really matter who they select and what you think of them, because they'll still be an infinitely better prospect for your country, and the whole world, than Trump/Pence. Voting for anyone else could make you complicit in returning Trump to the White House and if that's not chilling enough for you as a member of the LGBT community (and it damn well should be), just consider what might happen if/when Pence has to assume the role of President.
     
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    It is hard to get rid of him for some reason. They kill great Presidents like Kennedy and Lincoln but think Trump is their hero. He is a mess and never was fit. He paid to get rid of his competition now he will pay in spades. I hope the impeachment goes through.
     
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    I couldn’t disagree more with both the premise and discussion on this thread. President Trump is the greatest President that the US has had in the 30 years. His policies have strengthened this nation and our economy after decades of wishy-washiness and abusive policies. That is not a result that comes from someone who is mentally ill.

    President Trump still has a long way to go in fighting the entrenched bureaucracy (the swamp) who are aided by their dupes (the mainstream press) and absolutely deserves a second term as President to continue to make such positive things happen.

    Using ad hominem arguments against someone that you don’t agree with is completely fallacious. When opponents don’t even try to work with them, but instead resort to outrageous, hysterical name-calling (such as “racist,” “mentally ill,” “a Nazi,” “a homophobe,” etc) it destroys all dialogue and cheapens our right to Freedom of Speech under the Constitution. Please think for yourself and do actual research (beyond taking mainstream reporting or some peoples’ opinions at face value without actually investigating the reality of what they report/say for yourself) before you form your opinion. Empty rhetoric is only ‘reality’ if you choose to blindly believe it.

    God Bless the USA!
     
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    Uhhh - IF there's a god and creater then she/he/it doubtless likes all nations and people equally.

    Trump seems be very odd about women, people of colour, Islam to the point of being not only rude about and to them but also enacting policies that activity harm them, seemingly out of spite, and he positively LOVES money.
    I don't know where it says in the bible to love money more than your neighbours, but I'm sure someone can point out where Jesus said "love thy money".
     
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    You can believe what you want it is what you believe, but do not be shocked when someone has a different one.
     
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    "IF" there is a God and creator, OF COURSE, one would hope/assume that that God likes and favors ALL Nations and, most certainly, ALL people equally.

    Unfortunately, many of the major religious texts (which were written by humans, of course) tend to show "God's" favoritism towards specific groups of people and specific Nations.

    Just saying...
     
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    And, in terms of your comment about President Trump seeming to be "very odd about women, people of colour, Islam to the point of being not only rude about and to them but also enacting policies that activity harm them, seemingly out of spite, and he positively LOVES money" can you actually be specific rather than throwing out non-specific inuendeo and hate speech?
     
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    @TrevinMichael Thank you for acknowledging that! Americans ALL have the right to both the freedom of Belief AND the freedom of Speech. Unfortunately, SO MANY people around the World don't have even those basic rights.
     
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    Part of the problem is the media gets in the way. Also we think we know someone and they are not who they say they are. In reality we do not know enough about other people to really say much at all.

    I believe we do have the freedom to think for ourselves, but we also need to be aware of what is reality. The internet provides much information that is not the truth and also that is the truth. It is hard to know what to believe.

    Sometimes when we find out more of the truth what is revealed will either shock us or we will not believe it.

    What we believe is just that. We should not be upset with what one believes and we also need to accept when someone does not agree with us. It is not a threat. It is just their ideas are not the same.
     
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    @TrevinMichael ,
    Yes, sir. Exactly!.

    But the current main-stream and social media dominance as well as the "cancel culture" distort the ability of the average person to make informed decisions, thus we are becoming a culture of 'sheep' who tend to want to 'go with the flow.' Younger people, from my observations, not only don't think or research reality for themselves these days, but they also WANT to be part of the popular majority - in order to justify themselves. Again, that speaks of sheep, to me, and not true individuals that think for themselves.

    My 2cents.
     
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    that was at least 3 cents worth

    Yes but then things are what they are
     
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    I'd rather be a sheep against Trump than a lost lamb for him and his neo-fascist regime. I'd much rather fit in to the majority than be an outsider. It's only natural for people to want to fit in. "People" like Alex Jones and Mark Dice who run transgressive "news" disturb me because they speak in half truths and present material that is not objective as absolute truth. They also talk a lot about demons and other metaphysical ideas which have no place in rational, scientific thought. So I'd absolutely rather be a sheep and go with the flow and try to find my way in the ordinary world than be an outsider who has to live off the scraps of what the majority throws me like Alex Jones. I mean, just look at Trump: he failed his way upwards.
     
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    Common sense teaches me that the current POTUS does not deserve to be reelected based on the slumping economy for the lower and middle classes. Point of fact, new wealth income is geared primarily to the upper class while the lower and middle classes are unable to generate new wealth income.
     
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    Trump may suffer from some sort of social autism that makes him a doofus but make no mistake, he's as sharp as a knife strategically. That's what makes him so frightening to me. That's how he won the 2016 election (that and the shadow organizations choosing him for us) and that's why he's already won 2020. There is no hope. He wants to turn the poor into an industrial paste of some kind and use us to lubricate the pistons of late-stage capitalism. This is why I think we need to embrace Marxist-Leninist socialism as soon as possible. Unfortunately Trump will probably be president for life as he already talks about staying beyond 2024. Some people think he's joking but he's not. The man is an absolute monster and must be stopped by any means necessary. But it's just not going to happen because the GOP has lifted their orange messiah up to the highest and proclaimed him their new god. This is what they worship. And the poor will suffer for it, forever. Look at Brazil and Britain-- both are now headed by Trump-inspired figures. It's all over, it's all going downhill. We are all doomed as he's altered the political landscape permanently with a scar that will never heal or even scab over. The end is nigh.
     
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    Agreed. Of the 3, I think he's the only one that can win. He comes off much stronger in the debates. Biden looks like he's having a stroke on stage, and Warren can't help but answer in paragraphs of jargon that lead nowhere. Sanders is really good at compactifying good policy into catchy soundbites. I was worried about his age originally but not his mental faculties.
     
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    I’m not American but the news has nothing better to do than talk about Trump. We held a protest when he came to Ireland because we did want him here. On the other hand they found a really distant relation of Obama’s who was Irish several generations back. I don’t think they could prove it. When I heard that Donald Trump was running for President in the beginning I never thought he’d actually win. It’s amazing that so many people seem to dislike him but still he won the election. He’s one of the worst bigots out there he hates everyone. If you’re not him then you’re not worth a thought. Unless he can ridicule you. He hates immigrants but where does he think his ancestors came from. It’s like finding the worst bully in the playground and give him control of every other kid there. If he wins in 2020 I think America is doomed.
     
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    I hope Biden doesn't win the primary, although if he does I hope he at least beats Trump. I just find it mind-boggling that he's still a front-runner. America has gone too far right. I'd prefer Bernie or Warren. I find Yang's ideas interesting, but with no rank voting, I'm not going to risk Bernie or Warren losing to Biden. I prefer Bernie over Lizzie, mainly because I trust Bernie so much more than her. Bernie was always just ahead of his time. Bernie has publicly stood by the lgbt+ community since 1972 - a time when not only was same-sex marriage unheard of, but gay sex was downright illegal in most of the country. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton conveniently waited until public opinion polls ticked past 50% to say she was ok with same-sex marriage. Warren isn't as shameful as Hillary in that regard, but she does have a past as a republican. I respect that Warren converted and showed she's willing to change, but when a person like Bernie has been committed to the same cause for so long, it lets me know he truly believes what he says. Trump on the other hand, I hope doesn't believe what he says, because it's insanity.
    I was against Trump the moment he called undocumented immigrants murderers and rapists. Obama was harsh on deportation for sure, but Trump is just a monster. He completely flipped the script by saying "most" are murderers and rapists, and only "some" are good people. There's what, 12 million illegal immigrants, so shouldn't that equate to at least 12 million murders? That's like all of New England being murdered, it just doesn't make any sense and is not grounded in reality whatsoever. If you are someone who believes in the death penalty for murderers - like Trump is - then it only follows you would be fine with mass-murdering the tens of millions of undocumented immigrants.
    His actions have been just as megalomanical as his words. Puerto Rico, whether he likes it or not, is a US territory, and Puerto Ricans are US citizens. Yet when a hurricane devastated Puerto Rico, he just left it to suffer. He threw a temper tantrum. This horrifies me - does he want Puerto Rico to be left in ruins because he's racist against Puerto Ricans, or because it's a blue territory, or both? I live in a blue state, and not by choice, will he leave my state in ruins if we're hit with a hurricane because there's just too many democrats? Probably, and if not then only because it's at least white enough for him, which doesn't look good on his part.
    I don't think most Trump voters are as disgustingly racist and maniacal as he is. Many may simply favor his economic policies (which are failing miserably and are fiscally irresponsible), but I fail to see how it can excuse him. History is rife with people looking the other way.