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So my mom seemed uncomfortable...

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by Love4Ever, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. Love4Ever

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    I'm just concerned. I know there is a lot more scenes like that coming up in the show, I got spoiled a bit so I know what's coming, but I'm worried about how she'll react. Ugh, I love this show but now I'm on edge every time she says she wants to watch it.
     
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    Oh, and for anyone who wants to know the show is The 100.
     
  3. tystnad

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    these are just some thoughts, but is it possible you are noticing this because during these scenes you become hyperaware of her responses? that is, maybe she's also looking at you/your sister weirdly throughout the rest of the show, but you don't notice it because you have no reason to be paying attention. i know that i do that with my mother whenever we watch something that has a lesbian scene in it: suddenly i'm extremely aware of every single movement she makes and i start interpreting everything she does differently.

    if she is uncomfortable, i think it's very well possible that, like other people said, she just is uncomfortable because she hasn't seen anything like it before, or because she indeed suspects something. i wouldn't say knowing it in a sixth sense thing, but you might be tensing up during these scenes without being aware of it for example. in that case discomfort could also stem from the fact that you haven't yet dared to come out to her yet, which parents can really interpret in all sorts of ways: a lot of (accepting) parents feel guilty that apparently they did not create quite the trusting relationship with their kids they had hoped they did. that is not to say you should feel bad for not being out to her yet!!! i just mean there are a lot of thing that could be going through her head to cause apparent discomfort that is not 'love between two women is wrong'. if she really was uncomfortable because of that, why would she continue to want to watch it? the 100's same sex storyline is prominent enough for someone who doesn't tolerate f/f relationships to want to stop watching it, i'd say...
     
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    also:
    if you're comfortable enough, maybe you could try bringing up the romance in a way that doesn't address her behaviour or out yourself? so maybe something like... you think what one character did for the other is so nice of her, or that all people should be as good to their partners as this specific character, or even that it's cool that lgbt rights have advanced enough for shows like this to be possible. you wouldn't have to relate it back to yourself: if you have gay uncles i don't think it's necessarily odd to be a lgbt advocate, even if she thinks you're straight. and it could perhaps lead to a not-too-deep conversation that will help you clear this up a little.
     
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    Thank you for the responses! I appreciate you taking the time. You're right, someone would not watch a show they had a problem with. I know this unfortunately because my homophobic oldest childhood friend stopped watching it for that exact reason. :frowning2: I do think it's a good idea to make a nice subtle comment about their relationship. And yes, my mom does know I'm an ally, I have been very vocal about that in many cases. She knows how I feel about homophobia. I wish I could come out to her, but I just feel scared. I don't know why. I just have no idea how'd she feel or react. I'm afraid it would make things weird between us. I don't want it to be weird though. I want to be able to talk to her about it, I mean, she's my mom. I just feel bad. I feel like I'm a hypocrite. I'm so proud and supportive of other people and would encourage them to come out, but I can't even do it myself. I also know that I'm incredibly lucky to be able to have such a great family, so many people do not have that. I can't even imagine being afraid of being thrown out of your home or disowned because of who you love. So why am I so nervous? I just feel so unsure. I am proud of who I am, but I haven't told anyone but my sister.
     
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    Hey it's perfectly natural to be so nervous. Being proud for other people is one thing and dealing with coming out yourself is totally another, you are on a journey and in time you will also have that pride in yourself but it just takes a while to get there. I found when first coming out the hardest people to tell were those closest to me at times. You only have one mum and therefore your brain naturally doesn't want to damage the relationship you have with her. Don't be too hard on yourself these are scary things. I guess the question is what do you want to do, do you want to try and say something to her about the show or would you like to come out to her or what?
     
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    I don't know. :frowning2: I would like to but I'm not sure I can right now. I don't know if I have the courage. I honestly feel that maybe giving her a letter the day I go off the college may be the only way I can do this. I just don't know if I can be standing there when she reads it. I'm just too chicken to tell her straight up.
     
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    Hey it's ok. If you don't want to there is no shame in that, you will know when the time is right. I mean it's always going to be a scary thing but I found in my mind it was like a set of scales, on one side was my fear of coming out and on the other was my need/desire to tell people. When I was first coming to terms with my sexuality, my fear was so great that side of the scales were firmly on the floor and my desire to come out was about 0 so that side was right up in the air. Eventually over time my desire to tell people became gradually greater and whilst my fear didn't disappear it lessened a little and then one day the scale tipped the other way slightly.
    Doing it by letter is a great way, you don't have to do it in person. You should do it however you feel is best for you. If it helps I told my parents by text message.
     
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    You're absolutely not a hypocrite! Coming out can be incredibly scary, regardless of your situation. I live in one of the most accepting countries of the world, yet I'm still scared to come out and worried that it might change my relationships with other people for the worst... even in accepting places, we're still bombarded with stereotypes and very limited narratives, in society, in media, everywhere. when we care about people, the possibility of them being uncomfortable with your sexuality can be an enormous obstacle - even if that possibility is as little as 1% or even less! you don't have to come out yet if you don't dare to: you should come out for YOU, and if at the moment, like silverhalo said, the anxiety outweighs the desire to be out, it is completely okay to wait a little longer. it definitely doesn't make you a hypocrite, it just means you're putting you're putting your own well-being first in a situation where that SHOULD be your priority :slight_smile:
     
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    UPDATE
    So I didn't think starting a new thread was necessarily necessary, but I just had to post this somewhere because again, I have no idea what to do. For the ultimate twist on all of this I think my mom thinks I'm a lesbian! Because I want to only remain friends with this guy I met. I was very adamant about that because I'm every way we're not compatible beyond just friends. In literally every way. And she's taking my rejection of him as proof I must be gay? I'm so confused! I have never had a real relationship before but that is because I have very high standards and would rather be alone then settle for someone I did not have a real connection with. I also live in a conservative town and I personally never thought I'd meet someone while I was still living here anyway. I'm moving next year and I figure there will be plenty of opportunities then. The problem is now my mom thinks I'm gay when I'm not? I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. On the one hand, it's maybe good she's getting used to the idea of me not being straight, on the other, I'm not a lesbian, and she might think if I came out as bi that I'm just too scared to admit I'm gay because I'm pretty sure being bi will confuse her because she's never met a bi person. She didn't actually say she thought I was gay in so many words, but she did ask if I wasn't compatible with the guy I'm friends with BECAUSE HE'S A GUY. Which is basically tantamount to the same thing. She seems very suspicious too as to why I was rejecting him. Honestly, I don't know what to do.
     
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  11. tystnad

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    This could really go both ways... on the one hand, if she thinks you're gay and you come out as bi, it might almost make her relieved because there's still hope you'll end up with a guy so it might go over a little easier. but the question is if you'd be happy with her seeing bisexuality as a "might still end up with a guy" solution. at the same time however, like you said, it could be a way to have her warm up to the idea of you not being straight, and make the shock that you're also attracted to women less great? Did she sound particularly negative or disapproving when she asked you if you weren't into him because he was a guy, or more neutral, or joking, or sad (sadness doesn't have to mean she won't be accepting, it can also be that she suspects something and feels sad that you haven't been able to talk to her about it - definitely not an uncommon response)?

    Did you have plans to come out any time soon? I'm assuming not because you haven't mentioned it anywhere (but correct me if i'm wrong). If not, you could just make it clear that rejecting a guy doesn't have to make you gay at all, and stress that he simply isn't your type or that you'd just really prefer to stay friends/not risk the friendship or whatever? Rejecting a guy doesn't make you gay - if that was the case, wouldn't almost everyone at some point become a lesbian? (I once rejected a guy and once rejected a girl - what would that say about me?!) Depending on what you're like, you could even use excuses like wanting to focus on school first, or on improving yourself, or anything really before committing to a guy. I don't know, I'm really just thinking out loud :wink: Sometimes though... suspicions (unless they're hostile) can be very helpful when you do eventually come out. It just means they've already considering something so it comes as less of a shock. That doesn't mean you need to rush at all - just when the day comes, she won't be 100% overwhelmed
     
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    Thank you for responding. Honestly, I'd prefer if she didn't assume I was going to end up with either gender. But I don't really know what she'll think. She wasn't angry when she asked. She was only upset with me during this whole conversation because I kept insisting I just didn't like him in that way and I wouldn't give her a definite reason why, mostly because I don't want to to have to explain why we're not compatible. It's just a laundry list of ways of looking at the world that we don't have in common and those are deal breakers for me. But I think she just thinks I'm rejecting him for no real reason at all and I won't tell her why. Which honestly isn't true. So then I guess she summers from doesn't like a guy, won't go into explaining why= lesbian. Which is not correct. But I didn't want to go into that with her right then because the timing was awful. My dad and sister where home and I'd rather tell her alone without the whole house hearing about it at once. I don't know, next time she makes a comment I may just have to say something assuming we're alone.
     
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    I don't know if she'll even bother to ask again. I was so irritated I kind of shut her down. I don't like being quizzed about my personal life because my mom and I do not want the same things and I just don't think she'll get it. But then she feels upset that I don't talk to her.
     
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    My mom is a wonderful person but she basically has a very traditional life. Husband, 2 kids the whole thing. And I don't want any of that. The last thing I want is a conventional life.
     
  15. tystnad

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    I feel you - I'm in exactly the same position (well, add in a divorce, but that's almost traditional where i'm from :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: ). For me it's actually the main reason I haven't come out yet: I don't think my family would be homophobic beyond all the homophobic jokes they make but i've already diverted from the norm a lot and i can tell that just doesn't quite fit within their worldview... Anyway, don't really have any further advice, but just wanted to let you know you're not alone in this :slight_smile:
     
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    Thank you! I appreciate knowing I am not the only one out there. I'm sure it will all work out in the end.
     
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    Hmmm. Maybe your mom is like... "And what if my daughters were gay? Maybe Love4Ever, she dresses so gay recently. Oh today's youth is so much more bisexual than in my times" . I mean... some moms are... my mom is... wondering if people are gay in a gossiping with yourself kind of way, she has gay friends, it's a topic people talk about... so moms think about it. It may just be on her mind. Normal drama view of reality :wink:

    If she knew, she may know exactly the way you know: by observation who you make big eyes to.

    Well, about the update. If you tell your mom you're bi and she doesnmt believe you, then it's not your business to try and convince her to something that IS TRUE. I mean, it does hurt when a mom acts like that, but we have to have a bit of distance to our parents.
     
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    LOL. I loved your response. Made me smile! I hope when I come out she is happy for me.
     
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    Hi Love4Ever. Based on your update, I think your mother suspected all along that you weren't straight, and that is why she acted oddly watching the lesbian love scenes. She may have been thinking about what you might be thinking, and whether she should bring up the topic... When you say she asked if the reason you want to remain friends with the guy is "because he's a guy", I read that as her asking you, pretty straight out, about your sexuality. I would guess that the reason she suggested that was the reason you only wanted to be friends is because she already thought you weren't straight (not because everyone who turns down a guy is gay). The good news is, it seems to me there's nothing in this thread to suggest she's not accepting. On the contrary, she seems to have tried to communicate to you that it's fine if you're gay. So is there any reason to think she's not perfectly happy with you being bi? Maybe, like a lot of people, she initially assumes most people are either straight or gay, but still understands bisexuality. Lastly, speaking as a kinda old person, just because people appear to have led a conventional life themselves, doesn't mean they're not internally open to lots of different ways of living. I realise here that you mention that your mother has certain expectations about what your life may look like, and I don't have the information about that. But remember that she seemed to be fine with the idea that you might be a lesbian. I understand that coming out is always scary, but I think your mother is likely to respond well - based on what you've said here - whenever you choose to bring the topic up with her. It sounds like it's a conversation she would like to have, and tried to initiate. She's not likely to be concerned that you shut down the conversation before, because anyone would understand that it's a difficult conversation to have. Good luck!
     
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    Wow thank you! I really love this perspective. I'm sure it will come up again and then I'll just spit it out. I do think she must have been asking about my sexuality. I mean why would she emphasis my friend being a guy as being the problem otherwise if she wasn't? Even though that's actually not the problem. But she definitely suspects.