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Sexuality and anxiety - hating on yourself for your actions

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by Caecilian65, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. Caecilian65

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    Hi everyone,

    Ive kinda been on and off here for a while. Long story short I had thought I had sorted out everything anxiety and sexulity but I definitely haven't and it is coming up worse than before.

    For a little bit of background i moved 1000km away and cut myself off from friends and family before I was able to come out to myself. Maybe it was rushed I don't know and when I first came out did a bit of experimentation and had a few scary experiences first up and lots blaming and people hating on me for asking and saying certain things.

    During and after this time my jobs have only lasted 6 months and I have moved about 6 times in the last 2 years across the state I am in up to 1400km apart.

    Every time I move I cut myself off from most people because I find it too hard to stay in contact (work is my life). I also cut myself off from everyone when I broke up with my first ever ex about a year and a half ago. It probably didn't help that it was in small cpuntry town which I told myself I wouldn't do but happened anyway.

    Now I have been out of work, living in my car, did a bit of citrus picking (not very good), almost had a boyfriend and niw have a job 4 hours drive away from where i used to work and my ex was. Although I still go down there as i care about the native plants and local beef and citrus properties I help out with as a volunteer.

    So as result of this as well me trying to hook up with someone once and completely breaking down and being emotional I clearly still have lots of issues to work through.

    At least in terms of sexuality and not hating on myself does anyone else have ideeas on how to work this out yourself? I mean I have seen a counselor sometimes but as she is a 45 year old straight woman there so much support and understanding she can provide.

    I've been told by.lots of people just move to the city and not live in a town if 1000 people but I really care about improving the local environment in regional areas and if I don't do it who will?

    I also had quite a sheltered controlling childhood always trying to impress people and make them happy. Especially my parents who never openly mentional sex or relationships except for always telling me you should find a nice girl.

    Sorry for being all convoluted and stuff I just am at my wits end and feel really upset atm and don't know who to turn too or how to help myself..

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    I hear that.

    I'm confused, though. You have anxiety surrounding your sexual orientation in what way, i.e. coming out, figuring out exactly what it is, or what? Or you just dislike not being straight?

    I'm sure you also feel alone and isolated from people who would understand you, and that's what this site is for.

    Do you think that you hate yourself and have all this anxiety in part because you feel like your parents wouldn't accept you or would be disappointed if you came out to them?

    Do you think there is something wrong with being bi, gay or any other form of "not straight"?

    Just trying to get a better sense of why you feel the way you do, and then I think we can give more accurate advice and support. I don't hate myself and don't see anything wrong with being the way I am, and I would like for you to reach a point where you feel the same way about yourself.
     
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    I think it's a bit of everything?? A few things I forgot to mention.
    1. In secret as a teenager (or as secret as possible) i watched a lot of gay porn and masturbated to it
    2. My younger brother once or twice saw my internet history as we all had shared computers. As he is out now and quite active at times my parents blame me.for his sexuality.
    3. When i did try to come out to them I sent a letter to them. I was 1000km away by then and when they got it they sent an email but for some reason I didn't feel any better and I felt even more secretive..
    4. When I first dated my ex in the country town somehow even though he was much younger than me he was more sexually experienced and so convinced me to have a 3 some thing with his friends dad who he used to hookup with when he was underage. He may have just been 18 by then. Fast forward a year and I ended up supervising the son and having to go to his place to fet out of bed to come to work and the fact that I saw the father and as we got along (talked about native plants) that freaked me out. Lead to a breakdown in communication with the son and by the end I cut off myself and blocked off all phone numbers from the family.

    As now I am still connected semi connected to the town I am always paranood everyone knows or will know and will refuse to work with me.

    I don't know if that answers anything...
     
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    I think it helps. This sounds pretty serious.

    Have you thought about trying to find an LGBT therapist in your area, or one whose background shows a lot of experience or specialty working with LGBT people and LGBT issues? I'm thinking getting a therapist you feel more comfortable with and confident in would help you more than anything anyone here could say.
     
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    Personally my faith helped me come to a place of acceptance because it was bad theology that kept me from accepting myself, but that might not be applical to you.

    I would guess you need to understand the root cause of the hate/unacceptance. It sounds like your parents blame you for things that are out of your control. That can lead to a lot of shame, self blame, and by extention hate. That's just a thought though. I think working out things is hard without better knowledge of psychology.

    Therapist authors such as Brene Brown and Kristen Neff might be helpful, as they tackle issues of shame, blame, judgement, empathy, compassion, etc. I don't think they address lgbt+ but they address what helps us to love and accept ourselves.

    I personally think a good therapist doesn't need to be gay to help us accept ourselves. Acceptance and self hate is something straight and gay alike struggle with. However, training in lgbt issues is a thing and you can look for lgbt therapist if you want. It is okay to ask if a therapist is lgb for the sake of your comfort. Same with religion, ethnicity, gender, etc It's also a trial an error process with counselors/therapists. I didn't like the first 3 people I saw, 4th therapist has been a radically different experience.
     
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    I don't know. I have looked at it once but the closest one is 400kms away in the capital city. There are no other ones around.. i wish there was sometimes. I have called organisations and they keep on telling me nothing is outside the capital city.
     
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    Thanks yeah. It just feels like things keep hapening and i have no time/chance to know.myself and why I feel this way. Sadly there is no choice of therapist. She is the only one in the area.
     
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    I hear ya, I rarely feel I catch a break.

    Have you looked outside the area? I'm not sure if their are other towns near by or not. I looked at places 2 hours away, but ended up with a local person.

    I know you said you like small towns and want to help them grow. I also want you to know you have value too and investing in yourself to grow is well worth it. If you invest in yourself, you'll have more you can give back to those things and people you love.
     
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    Ok yeah mean most counselors are 4 hours drive and I don't even know how long this job is going to last.. i am still living in my car. I cannot afford the drive to other counselors. I haven't even been able to afford to drive to my current counselor so it has been phone calls... i feel horrible.
     
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    Also, everything I have done for last 20 years has been based on me helping other people/animals/plants not myself so I find it so hard to believe that I need and/or deserve it. I have had low selfesteem too and was bullied and isolated at school if that makes a difference. Being an all boys high school lots of homophobia...
     
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    Yeah, you have so many things that have gone on in your life that make a huge difference. It would be hard to deal with all of it for anyone, which is why it would be great if you had a professional who could help you. I was bullied growing up, too, and it has affected me a lot. I don't think people understand how much bullying stays with people.

    I think I understand why you do it, but the pushing people away and cutting off contact with them is also really huge and might be one of the first things you need to work on changing. If you don't like the one therapist in your area and don't have a good relationship with your parents, you still need someone and some support. And a good support system is free.

    Do you ever talk to your brother about these things? What is your relationship with him?

    If you live in your car, how often do you have access to the internet? You can always come on here whenever you can get online and make posts about one separate issue that is bothering you at a time, and users will read, respond and try to help as much as possible. I am very sorry to know you still live in your car.
     
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    I totally understand not having money to even drive places. If you're doing phone calls for counseling, then you might have access to do calls with other counselors outside the area regardless of distance.

    All your experiences matter because they can all reinforce the messages we got as kids. We don't have to believe those messages. We can shift through the lies and choose not to accept them. At the very least, for me, I now ask myself "is this helpful?". If it's not, I change how I'm talking to myself, I choose to talk about a belief I want, I distracted myself, cope, whatever it takes to get myself on a path to becoming healthier.

    You are definitely worthy and deserving of help. Just as much as those you help. We're all alive and feel and deserve a chance to be happy and loved. No one earns that right. We're all in this together. We all fall short. It's not easy, but we're not alone. Those you help, you help out of compassion right? It's not earned, it's a gift. You can have compassion for yourself too.

    I dont have it all figured out but I know where you're coming from.

    Brene Brown and Kristen Neff both have ted talks and videos on you tube if you can afford books.
     
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    Hi all,
    Its been a really crazy and stressful time with work and living and out of my car. I will try to respond to all your great points later tonight.

    Lots of food for though. Thanks for responding

    Cheers,