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Feel so utterly, devastatingly lost....

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by mrpeach, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. Questionsabound

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    Hi Mr. Peach,

    Your story is so close to mine. I came out to my wife as bi about one year ago and as gay at the end of May. We are now separated, which was something I had to do in order to save my own health and sanity because this ordeal gave me extreme anxiety and depression.

    Like you, I love my wife very much. All of the little examples you gave about things that made you emotional (sorting items in the garage, seeing elderly couple holding hands, etc.) are the same thoughts I had. The word “rollercoaster” is the perfect way to describe this experience.

    I appreciate how you mentioned that you and your wife socialized with neighbors after going through a rough few days. My wife was like yours and was incredibly supportive, didn’t want to split up, and didn’t want me to feel guilty. What I found remarkable was that after we would have these highly emotional, horrible conversations where one or both of us cried, typically the next day we would go about our lives and share some happy moments. Of course, the anxiety and depression was still there, but it was amazing how we both still had a tremendous love for each other and would still smile or cuddle on the couch even in our darkest moments.

    Are you on the email group HOW (Husbands Out to Wives)? You will find many, many men going through your situation.

    Do you have your own therapist? Having a couples therapist is good, but it’s important to have someone who is helping you look out for yourself and prioritize your own feelings above your wife’s.

    Are there any support groups in your area for married men who realize they are gay or bi? I live in Boston and found one that has truly been wonderful and I have made some friends through that group.

    I think it’s important to have a few close and trusted friends or family members that you can confide in. It’s important to get your thoughts out of your head. Personally I felt that I often got more help from speaking with a trusted friend or family member than a therapist (but don’t get me wrong, my therapist has been very, very helpful as well.)

    It also doesn’t hurt to check out some self
    Help books. For me, I began reading “The Self Compassion Skills Workbook” by Tim Desmond which forces me to dig deep into what was causing my depression, and it helped me immensely.

    We are here for you!!
     
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    hi, everyone. by now it's been a month since i came out to my wife. it's been a turbulent roller coaster to say the very least. she and i both are simply exhausted and tired of all the constant crying and sadness. i've continued seeing my individual therapist; she started seeing one just today, and we both continue our couples therapy sessions as well. in short, we're both putting in the work on how to navigate these trying waters.

    the problem that we're both facing now is that we're each in different places on this journey. it's incredibly remarkable how since coming out, everything seems so clear to me now. over the weeks i've become more confident in my awareness...i'm actually using the word "gay" to describe myself whereas before i was too ashamed to even mention that word. i kept referring to it as "the g-word." my wife has noticed this confidence in me and is proud of me. but again, the problem is that we're both in different places on this journey. we had talked prior about wanting to stay together, how maybe i could use viagra in order to be intimate with her again. but, i had to give her the heartbreaking truth last week that that option no longer works for me where i am now in my journey. as much as i love her and care about her, as much as i find her drop-dead gorgeous, the bottom line is that i'm a gay man. i know that hurt her immensely. she's devastated knowing that i no longer find her desirable. i wish to heaven that wasn't the case; i wish i wasn't gay at all. it still doesn't make sense to either of us how just a year ago i couldn't keep my hands off of her and we had a great, fulfilling sex life. how in the hell does it go from that to feeling absolutely nothing? mind-bogglingly frustrating.

    i also feel that i've been progressing faster that she has. she's still stuck in the same place of "i still want to be with my husband," whereas i'm now starting to feel trapped. and i HATE saying that...i hate even thinking that because i don't want to be so selfish to her. we're processing this new reality at different speeds. as i said at the beginning, having come out i see things so much clearer now. i suppose it makes sense that i'm now here in my journey vs. my wife who is still way back there.

    for me, it's at the point where i dread the weekends. we both feed off of each other's sadness and depression. we both get hit hard by sudden bouts of crying. we try to comfort each other, but it's difficult. in short, we're both wallowing in each other's misery. we came to the very sad decision that the writing is clearly on the wall: divorce. but we're going to try a separation for the next several months....not with the intent of trying to get back together, but because of timing. her brother is getting married in june 2018; we don't want to divorce before that and take away from his milestone, nor do we want to cause stress to her parents who are planning for this wedding. so, a separation is what we're going to do in the interim. the question is how? what does that look like? i have a good friend that will let me crash with him for however long i need, but my wife and i haven't ironed out any details. i've been so depressed and mopey that i'm not able to concentrate on anything. my professional life has suffered, and i've lost all desire to do anything. i can't tolerate being around people because i feel i'm faking it. i realized that my processing method requires that i be alone. that's why i feel it'd be better for us to separate. my wife travels a lot for work, and i've benefitted from being alone during those days to reflect, think and come to realizations. i think we both need time apart in order get more clarity and also to get used to the idea of being apart from each other. we talked about keeping our separation as a business agreement: we'll keep our bank accounts together, she'll stay on my health insurance, etc. in short, we're married only on paper. but what's going to happen when i feel ready to start exploring the life of a gay man? what if i want to date around? i don't know when that will be, but it will happen.

    also, the biggest question mark is when do we tell our families? do we wait to separate after christmas and tell them then, or do we keep our separation secret? i have no idea? what i do know is that i'm not ready to see her family. it's going to be too painful and extremely difficult to fake it in front of them. i love her family as i love my own (hence it being so painful). i can't just sit out of spending the holidays with them. maybe we fake it for them and tell them after? or we tell them now? ugh. all of this is such a nightmare.

    regardless of the progress i've made in accepting myself, i still feel like absolute crap for doing this to our families. i married the love of my life, and now she's gotten the raw end of the deal. her father gave her away to me to take care of her, protect her, love her and cherish her.....and i've failed every single one of them. she has two identities with me now: as my friend, she's happy for me and proud of me; as my wife, she's devastated that she's losing her husband forever. how can i not feel like absolute s h it for this?

    we both desperately wanted to slow things down and not rush into separating/divorcing, but again, i can't help or predict where i'm going to be or how i'm going to feel with each day. i wish i could slow things down, but how can i? i'm feeling trapped, i feel like i'm faking it, and i feel that i need to be alone. but is my concern and sorrow for my wife holding me back and keeping me from dealing with these things the way i need to? my therapist says i need to be able to process things the way i need to; so does my wife. that's why i feel that us being under the same roof isn't making things any easier.

    i apologize for the novel i wrote. i'm just seeking answers and solutions. if any of you have any input on how best to navigate these waters of separation, please let me know. thank you all for your time. take care.
     
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    My heart goes out to you and I do think you are making the right decision. Stay strong!
     
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    mrpeach, I think being alone is hugely beneficial to yourself and your wife. It sounds like seperate spaces would be helpful to mourn and heal without the ghosts of "what was" and "now will never be" constantly present. There's no way to get stronger in that environment and in my personal experience, resentment can grow. Best of luck to you both, listen to that inner voice, it'll lead you where you need to go
     
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    thank you, leb. today has been another grueling, emotional day. it's abundantly clear that my wife wants to slow things down, that she isn't ready to undergo a separation yet even tho we both know divorce is where we're heading. the thing is that she feels disappointed that we haven't considered ALL possible options, but to me, there aren't any. what would an open marriage look like for real? i'm a gay man and as much as i love my wife with my heart and soul, i know i'm going to eventually want to be in a romantic/emotional relationship with a man. just about everything i've read about open marriages have prerequisites stating that you aren't allowed to fall in love with your side fling. i can't have sex with her, i can't provide the physical intimacy she needs. and, we're both dreading having to tell our families....especially with the holidays being around the corner.

    i feel like an absolute, utter failure....failure because i wasn't able to be the husband and future father we both wanted. i keep being told that this isn't my fault but how can i not feel that way? all of this is happening because of me. our families are going to be devastated because of me. the promising future we both dreamed of is destroyed because of me. and our dream wedding 5 years ago has now become a nightmare.

    she's now visiting a close friend, talking to her about our latest updates (i'm glad she has support). because of this, i'm sitting here in our home alone, and i feel better being alone. we keep discussing repeatedly what the "purpose" of a separation would be. would it be to give us both time alone to figure out next steps, to seek clarity? or would it be to help us transition towards divorce while still being in each other's lives and supporting one another financially? for me, it's the latter. but i know she's not ready for that yet because again she feels everything is moving so damn fast. and she's right. it has moved fast. i wish i could slow things down and take our time, but how???? and what benefit would that provide???
     
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    Hey mrpeach I know this is all so hard and I get that now you are at the stage of the journey you are at you know that ultimately the only way forward is divorce. I'm sure at the beginning of your journey you also were once in the place your wife is, a time where you didn't want to acknowledge the reality and could put move forward. She has to tread those same stages you have but just on her own path. She is just a bit behind you. Did you say she is seeing a therapist?
     
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    thank you, silverhalo. yes, she just started seeing a therapist. i know it will be helpful for her. her first session already was. i just wonder if my feeling sorry for her and being worried about her is holding me back from truly being on my own. i'm starting to think it is. i need time to process and be on my own because i'm feeling trapped; i need to be alone and away from everything...otherwise we're continuing life as normal.
     
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    Hi mrpeach. I don’t have any good advice, but I want you to know you are not alone. I’m in almost the exact same situation as you with the same time line. I am still questioning whether I am bi or lesbian, but I do know that I have really struggled intimately with my husband since acknowledging my attraction to women about a year ago. I will have days where I come to terms with it, but then I see how miserable he is and how much I’m hurting him. I somehow convince myself that none of this is real and I need to just find a way to enjoy intimacy with him so we can keep our happy marriage. I recently moved out to get clarity, but it has just left me missing my home. We miss each other apart, but are miserable together with the uncertainty of the future looming over us.

    Thanks for sharing your story, and I hope that both you and your wife are able to find peace.
     
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    Hi Mr Peach, I hope you are doing well. Any updates?
     
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    Thanks for posting this. I just found this site today. I came out to my husband two weeks ago. We have two young children. Each day that passes feels like a year. We moved 3 months ago to try and kick start a new chapter in our lives and wipe the slate clean from the last 5 years of dark times in our marriage that culminated in my affair with a woman but I still wasn't able to come to terms with admitting to myself or to him that I was a lesbian. Now we are in a new house, a new town, moved back close to our home town to be surrounded by extended family for support and after a few months I just couldn't take it and finally came out after starting to see a therapist. I don't know how I convinced myself into thinking the move would somehow "fix" everything but I did and now my husband feels so betrayed and tricked. My husband switches on the hour from being as understanding as he can to being absolutely furious and punching walls and telling me to fuck off and fuck you for ruining his life and our kids lives. It is absolute hell. I have a therapist and have told my sister and kind of told my parents. They know our marriage was on the rocks which is why we moved and they knew about my affair but thought it was just emotional because of our marriage issues. I feel like I am ruining my life and everyone's lives around me.