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Feel so utterly, devastatingly lost....

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by mrpeach, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. mrpeach

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    i've been browsing on these forums for nearly six months. i apologize in advance for any grammatical errors as i'm typing all of this via stream of consciousness. i'm a man married to the most amazing, loving woman. to say that i've been lucky to know her would be a gross understatement. we've been together 8 years, married for five. from a very early age (elementary school) i noticed that i was attracted to both boys and girls. it wasn't until my college years that my physical attraction to guys developed into sexual attraction. college was also when i discovered the world of gay porn on the internet. yet during my teenage years and young adult years i was also very much sexually attracted to women. i wanted to be in relationships with women and only had interest in being with women. i never tried anything with guys mostly because i was afraid that it would confirm i was gay or some such.

    fast forward to the present: during this past year, i've been internally agonizing and struggling with my sexuality. seemingly out of nowhere, my sexual attraction to men skyrocketed to where that's all i was interested in. i was confused and terrified of what was happening to me and wondering why it had suddenly changed so drastically. having this weigh on my mind 24/7 for over a year (understandably) killed my libido: i lost any desire to have sex with my own wife, making up excuses to put it off, and being unable to perform if we tried. i was becoming grumpy and irritable as i wrestled with this situation. finally after a year of going through this alone, i talked to her about it. i told her that i've been questioning my sexuality and that i'm terrified of what it means, and terrified of losing her. she's the single best thing that's ever happened to me. i love her, i love her family as my own just as my family loves her as one of theirs. everything about our relationship was picture perfect. we clicked on every level, and yes, even sexually. many tears were shed from both of us as i told her all of this. she was surprised to say the very least, but she then told me the single most beautiful and compassionate words anyone could ever say: "I don't care what you are as long as you're happy and living your truth." **tears are streaming down my face as i type this**

    this conversation happened over 5 months ago. since then i have been seeing a therapist who specializes in matters of sexuality. it's been an emotional rollercoaster for me. everyday, i wrestled with the question of "am i really gay, or am i just bi?" i felt that each day brought me a new answer: somedays i knew i was gay; others i felt i was merely bi. on top of that frustrating uncertainty and see-sawing, i felt (and still do) so much self-loathing and guilt: all of this sadness and all of this shit we're going through is because of me. my wife has been incredibly supportive of me, but i know she feels sadness and uncertainty as well about what's going to happen to us. we finally saw a couples therapist for the first time this past week. it was a good introductory session. we're going because we have so many question marks in our relationship: "what do we do? where does this leave my wife? how long is she supposed to sit around and wait for me to figure this stuff out?"

    however, i'm finally realizing (as much as i don't want to) that i am for certain gay. and it absolutely kills me. if i was a single man going through this journey of self-discovery, i wouldn't care as much. but i've brought my wife into this...and her family...and my family. there are so many people that are going to be affected by this now....and it's all because of me.

    again, i feel so depressed and shitty that i'm doing this. this was never supposed to happen. we were supposed to continue planning for our future, take vacations together, go through the normal husband/wife life. we were also excited to finally begin remodeling our home. we both saw it as a metaphor for our relationship: working together to make something better/stronger. she's my universe and my everything. i love that woman more than i love myself. she doesn't deserve any of this. yesterday while driving home from work, i saw an elderly man and woman crossing the street while holding hands. and it brought me to tears. that's what she and i were supposed to have. we were supposed to grow old together. over this past year i've prayed, wished and hoped that this gay side of me would go away forever. but it's not. it's not going away.

    i haven't told her yet that i now know i'm gay. i'm dreading that moment. i'm dreading what's going to come next. and i hate myself for all of this.
     
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    Mr Peach,

    i offer you a massive TG hug LOL... Same boat here just different orientation, but the same exact issue. I feel wretched about it because she didn't sign up for this. I have talked about it and said these words, "I'm gay and transgendered". Add in a religious elements and a child and it's a blender for my mind to figure things out.

    i do know that i have trouble with hetero sex, an actually had to take anti anxiety pill. I do know when I'm pushed to answer do you love me? It's an impossible task for me to answer as I used to. IMPORTANT: This is not her fault, she is still a beautiful woman, i am responsible for my actions, never ever make her part of my fantasy or expect her to fulfill it. So i will be keeping you thoughts and feel free to talk. I absolutely want the best for her. I think we will seperate as i have never nor will i be "wife/wife" demanding. She needs to have her freedom, but it's awful, makes you wonder if your crazy.

    Theresa
     
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    Hi Mr. Peach,

    I think many of us understand exactly what you're going through. Please don't hate yourself for what you honestly feel. Your attraction to men is obviously a big part of you. Sometimes it takes years for a person to realize their sexual orientation...look at all of here...the fact that there's a forum called LGBT Late in Life should let you know you're not alone, and you certainly have nothing to feel ashamed about.

    I understand you feel bad right now. However, sometimes living your authentic life means change...including a change in what you planned for your life before, like growing old with your wife. This doesn't mean you won't be in each other's lives. You care about each other and will probably always be like family for each other, even if you aren't married anymore. I'm not saying it will be an easy transition, but it's possible. I think one way to think about it is not just about your life but hers as well. You both deserve to live authentic lives which means she should be in a relationship with someone who's sure he wants to be with her, and you also deserve to be in a relationship with one who you don't have any apprehension as to your attraction, etc. You both deserve to be happy.

    Don't feel bad, you are human, and you're trying to figure yourself out.
    I wish you peace and love.
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    Hey take a deep breath. There are many people here on EC who are in the same or similar position to you. Some are further along in their journey some are like you just starting out. You have done evertpything right talking to your wife, seeking therapy and relationship counselling. I know it's really tough but you can't blame yourself for what has happened. You didn't intentionally do this or cause this, you can't help what has happened you know that because if you could change it you would.
    Everyone here will agree that it's a horrible situation but you can both come through this and get to a place where you are both happy again, probably not together but you can both find your new happy.

    Please don't be too hard on yourself.
     
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    Hi mrpeach :slight_smile:

    Welcome to EC, or to posting on EC.

    I'm sure you have found, and will continue to find, many who are/were in the same exact boat as you are.

    It sounds like you've got a growing support system. That and EC will be super helpful while you go through this.
     
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    i talked to my wife this morning. after a very restless, anxious night of tossing/turning, i woke up before she did and laid on the couch in our living room. she finally came out of the bedroom to great me. and i told her. i told her how i'm not doing well emotionally, and that it's in regards to my sexuality. she encouraged me to "say it" and that "it's going to be ok." i told her that i can't bring myself to say it. "if you love me, you'll tell me," she encouraged. fighting to find my words through my loud crying, i told her that i'm gay. now, i feel even worse than before. she was amazingly and beautifully supportive, fighting back tears of her own, saying that "we'll figure this out and get through this." but she left. she said she's not rejecting me, but she needs to go out for a drive to be alone for a while. and now i'm here at the house by myself, regretting everything, wishing i could take back this horrible morning. i apologized to her profusely through my cries, telling her how sorry i am that i did this to her and to us. i hate myself even more. what have i done to her?
     
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    I know it's hard not to regret this morning but if it hadn't happened this morning it would have happened some other time. You can't help of change what's happening you just have to find the best way to work through it. Sure it's hurting her but it's hurting you too. Maybe you should go for a walk or something sometimes fresh air can just help us feel a bit better.
     
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    You've given her a gift of honesty. Your full true self. She's given you a gift of her acceptance.

    Y'all will make it through. I understand the pain and guilt. We all do on this site.

    Hang in there.
     
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    I was thinking of trying to go back to sleep after browsing here, but I instead really want to write and offer you support as your posts hit home for me and I understand the agony of the situation. Right now, this moment, this pain you are experiencing- I know it is so incredibly much. You are doubting if you should have said anything, you are regretting your decision. Right now is miserable, I know. I am so incredibly sorry. That pain is so real and intense. Something within you brought you to continue on this journey, to continue exploring your sexuality, and eventually you were filled with enough internal discomfort that you needed to share with your wife that you are gay. When I first knew I wasn't straight and I battled my sexuality on my own, every bit of me had to share with my husband because I was exploding inside. I too regretted everything the next morning but little by little I accepted that it was something I needed to do. My husband has come so far in a few months.

    Your wife needs to process things and catch up to the reality of the situation. It will be painful for both of you, but she will be okay. Your wife will find her own strength and understanding. Right now it's raw. None of this is easy. Go on a walk, try and be as present in the moment as you can. Breathe, and trust that everything will be okay. I know right now hurts but things will get better.

    Sending a giant hug! I am truly sorry. I know there are no words that can make this better. It is a painful journey but keep listening to what you really want. Your life is yours to live.
     
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    That was so brave and such a big step even though you feel absolutely awful. Sharing something so big and scary and raw is so hard. By sharing with her, you are continuing to give her honesty and respect. The first 24 hours after I told my husband was the worst. Encourage her to share how she's feeling. I found tabeling the topic for a day or two and writing down our feelings, questions and concerns then sharing once ready, helpful. Take care yourself
     
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    thank you, everyone, for your input and words of encouragement. i don't want to continue beating the dead horse by endlessly repeating how horrible and guilty i feel about what i did and how much i hurt her. she's still gone. i don't know when she'll come back, but i understand she needs her space. i have no idea how to help her now. there's really nothing i can do to make her feel better; there's no coming back from something like this. ontop of the guilt and agony i feel, i'm worried about her and feel i need to take care of her.

    this wasn't supposed to happen. we were supposed to grow old together, have a family, plan for our future for the rest of our lives. and i took all of those shining dreams away from her/us with 2 words.
     
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    I'm so sorry this is hurting so much right now. I agree that what you have done is brave--it takes incredible courage to be honest when you know it's going to hurt someone you love.

    Hang in there. Your wife sounds like she's an incredible person, and she will come back. I agree that she just needs time to process the situation. Think about how you would feel if the situation were reversed. You'd still love her, but you would need some time to integrate this new reality. She probably needs time by herself or with a trusted friend or family member to talk things through and think about how to move forward. While she's gone, you can do the same--or just use the time to clear your own head, as was suggested.

    Take care of yourself and remember, many of us have been where you are and we're always willing to listen and help.
     
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    I know how you feel - that feeling of being a "future" thief and simultaneously living in crisis mode where it's minute to minute. Just try get through today. And then get through tomorrow. And the next day. She will come back. And you guys can talk a little more
     
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    As others have said, you really shouldn't continue to blame yourself for the difficult predicament you and your wife are finding yourselves in. You have not intentionally deceived your wife - in fact, as far as I can see, all you have done is follow your heart - something we are all programmed to do! You have already done really well in being honest with your wife and seeking therapy. I'm not sure there is much more you could have done, to be honest.

    Although I am wary of the concept generally, it does seem to me that you have what some might call a "fluid" sexuality - one which shifts over time. You mentioned when you were young you were sexually attracted to women, and I wonder if you call recall how this felt and compare it to your current attractions towards men.

    If you are in the right place for it, I would recommend checking out an interview conducted on Bret Easton Ellis podcast, with a singer-songwriter called Michael Angelakos, who came out as gay a few years ago following reports he was getting divorced from his wife. Your post reminded me of so many of the things he was talking about in that interview (though I think he has since gone back to identifying as bisexual).
     
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    thank you all so much for your word of encouragement and support. as you can imagine, they've been invaluable. yesterday was the biggest rollercoaster of our lives. no doubt they will be more to come. we decided to try and continue with our pre-set plans for the day which was to clear out our garage. i felt like i was on auto pilot...more like i was in a haze. it just seemed so surreal to go on with our day as if everything was "normal." finally, at one point, both my wife and i had to stop because we were hit with such sadness. this is our home that we both fell in love with it when we first walked in five years ago. this is where we were supposed to continue our lives together. and the thought, the idea of us not being together was never an option for either of us. yet we continued on with our tasks as if our marriage is going to last forever, talking about where in the garage we'll put the bike racks, or which of picture frames should go in the living room. are we just deluding ourselves? or is having a sense of normalcy the best way to go through this uncertain path? we cried. hard. later that evening, we had dinner together (pizza) on the couch, watched an episode of tv, and then talked some more. neither of us wants to lose the other. but for her, sexual intimacy is a very important part of her life. otherwise, we're just glorified roommates. how do you look your own beautiful amazing wife in the eyes and tell her that you aren't sexually attracted to women anymore? how many more stab wounds am i supposed to inflict upon her? i told her that during my past year of struggle that i had done a lot of research and came across the notion of a "mixed orientation marriage." she had never heard of that before and so i explained what it is, and how the parameters are defined by the married couple. some allow for an open marriage, some allow for the gay spouse to seek companionship from the gay community, among many other caveats. for her, she's doesn't like the idea of imagining me in bed with someone else. but she was surprised to learn that i wouldn't have a problem if she hooked up with someone else. clearly i haven't been able to satisfy her in that realm for a while, so i wouldn't have a problem with her getting her needs fulfilled from elsewhere. in any case, i told her that i would try ordering some more viagra to "see" what that could do for us. either way, we have another couples therapy session this coming tuesday. we have a lot to discuss with him. we have so many questions that keep coming up: what does this mean for our house, for our finances? could we still have a child together, or would it be a farce? how long until we realize staying together doesn't work and that separating is the only solution? so many frightening and tear-inducing questions. but all we can do is take things one day at a time and focus on the here and now. we hugged, said our "i love yous" and i went to bed in the other room.
     
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    Hey mrpeach,

    It's been a couple of days since I was last here, and so I missed your post until now.

    Just wow. It has brought back so many memories of my coming out to my wife 16 months ago. I feel your pain and your guilt because I've been there too. It sounds like you're both doing your best to figure all of this out, and I'm impressed with your honesty with your wife. Despite the pain you're in right now, I honestly believe you will both come through the other side just fine. It takes time.

    Please don't have a baby while you're still figuring all of this out. A child will massively complicate all of this even more than it is now.

    You are not alone. We're here with you.
     
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    hello everyone. it's been nearly a week since i posted. so many of you have offered such powerful words of encouragement, reminding me that things will improve as time progresses. it's pretty damn near impossible to see beyond your current state of misery....even more difficult to try and imagine things getting better. but here i am.

    it's been (as i just said) nearly a week since i came out to my wife in the most agonizing and tearful conversation i've ever had with anyone or probably ever will. i'm happy to say that the days have improved. sunday and monday were extremely difficult. not knowing how to navigate these waters, we simply tried to continue on with our days as normal, but our days were peppered heavily with random bouts of sadness to where my wife and i would both break down and cry. she's told me over and over again to stop apologizing, to stop blaming myself, to stop feeling guilty. she's been nothing short of an amazing, loving person during this ordeal. i told her, however, that i wish she would just hate me instead. it would make all of this easier and facilitate a clean break if she hated me. but, she could never. it got to the point to where i simply hated the mornings. i hated waking up to this new reality...wishing so desperately that this would be nothing more than a really bad dream. but no, it's here to stay.

    the following tuesday, my wife felt incredibly depressed. she couldn't bring herself to go to work that day; called in a mental health day. made me feel even more terrible. later that tuesday afternoon, we both met with our couples therapist for our second session. we filled him in on everything and brought him up to speed. my wife and i both cried as we talked about our feelings, our fears, our worries (for ourselves and for each other). it was a rough session for sure. but later that evening, something unexpected happened: we found joy and laughter again. later that night we got together with our neighbors for dinner and had such a fun time, laughing and joking, etc. it was an evening we both needed, and it actually brightened our day. we went to bed happier just having been surrounded by good moods and joy.

    the following wednesday, my wife had to go out of town for work for the rest of the week. later that night i met one of my close friends for dinner and told him everything. i was scared to share all of this information, but felt a sense of relief in being able to share it with someone other than my therapists. and from then to now, i feel that i've finally begun to find some peace with everything. i've finally been able to begin accepting who i am, and i'm not as scared of the future as i once was. my wife feels the same way; she's feeling more at peace with things as well.

    at this point, we don't know what's going to happen. we're leaving all options on the table vs moving straight towards divorce/separation. we are each other's best friends; we love each other more than anything. and i know that love we have will continue helping us see through this.

    i'll continue to post. thank you all for your encouragement and support. i wish all of you the same strength and comfort as you've given me.
     
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    Amazing! I think the fact that your wife sounds like an awesome person and that you are already seeing a couple's therapist means you are already on the path to having a completely successful outcome to your situation. It may not be all forward movement all the time but in the end, you will get there.

    Keep the updates coming. They're very inspiring!
     
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    Hey mrpeach I'm glad you have found some peace. I'm sure there will still be bumps in your road but we will all still be here for you.
     
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    Hi Mr Peach,
    Both you and your wife sound like lovely, honest, caring people. Regardless of what decisions you make about your marriage, I think you will be in each other's lives in loving & supportive roles forever. You're both mature and honest. I really wish for happiness for both of you. Take care and write to us. ❤️