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Hocd or lesbian?

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  1. Jenny173

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    I've been struggling with my sexuality for quite sometime now, and I just don't know where I fit in. I'm a 27 year old female virgin. I used to have crushes on guys but I haven't had one in over 4 years. What I mean by crushes is like butterflies in stomach nervous tingly turned on feeling. I did online dating for almost 2 years on and off but none of the guys I met did it for me. Some I went on a few dates. Some guys I let eat me out and finger me but I just wasn't turned on at all. The only time during the 2 years of online dating that I was ever aroused by men was when I was pmsing or had my period. At this point I just don't know if I'm just not attracted to men or if I haven't found the right guy. The few therapists Ive seen say I just haven't found someone I like enough, and that I have homosexual OCD.When I masterbate I think of women. I've never found the male anatomy really appealing other than the 2 guys I really liked. All the women I work with are constantly talking about how much men's bodies turn them on and I just don't get it. Am I missing something?
     
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    I was seriously going to make a thread with this same title last week. My current conclusion is that I am "on the spectrum" possibly leaning towards lesbian. In my case I am married with a child so I am gripping on with dear life to my family and current life, but I have been obsessing over the possibility of being gay. You likely indeed have attraction to women.. not necessarily meaning you have nothing towards men, but it could be. I do think it's easy to start over obsessing- though not meaning that it is HOCD. My therapist who is gay and deals with LGBTQ issues surprised me when he told me to just not worry about this for now and not try and figure anything out. I have made myself depressed, anxious, and sick over this. I need to take care of myself and try and find joy with my current life before I readdress this question.

    I guess just try and not overthink it, but begin accepting that you are attracted to women and open up who you can date. My issue is I have never had the opportunity to explore this side of myself and I wonder if I will be okay for my entire life not ever being able to.
     
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    I tried last fall to distract myself after my last boyfriend and I broke up which was in September. I used to go to the gym and watch movies but then it got cold and I stopped working out. I've been trying to get back but I'm dealing with a health issue at the moment and it's all I can think about unfortunately. When I broke up with my first boyfriend I almost spiraled back into that obsession but I met up with a guy I really liked before him and I felt normal again. I was turned on by him and everything felt natural but I haven't felt that way with anybody in so long I don't know what that feels like anymore. I wish I had a LGBT therapist. That way I can hear advise from someone who has dealt with these issues. So did you ever love your husband? Were you ever physically attracted to him?Have you always been attracted to women and men? Sorry if I'm being intrusive.
     
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    I have been staying at home with my girl for two years now, and I have found that having all this time to think has let me to spiral out of control with thoughts. It's so hard, but try as hard as you can to not worry or overthink and be in the moment. But I am still struggling with this! When my thoughts go everywhere I start to feel anxious and it's a vicious cycle.

    I know this is never an easy thing to face regardless of your situation... the thoughts of turning everything upside down and facing the possibility of being gay. However, I wish desperately I explored this side of myself when I was younger before I met my husband. I had a huge crush on a friend and fantasized/had intense dreams of her for a period of time. I also recognized crushes I had here and there. I always brushed it off. I actually wrote in my journal.. "could I be lesbian? ...no I can't imagine not having a husband and kids". My naïve self couldn't even fathom an alternate life.

    I was attracted to my husband though it was very mild. It wasn't butterflies or take my breath away or extremely passionate. But it was so comfortable being with him and just felt right. I wanted sex and was turned on by him for a couple months but it quickly turned into me being passive and never initiating. I am 5 years married with a toddler, so I guess I don't know what is "normal" as far as sex drive goes and these feelings of wanting something more. This is why I am trying so hard to take a step back and focus on me and our relationship. I still been a rough 6 months with tons of stress and changes, so I wonder if this is just a little crisis of wanting something more.

    Sorry that went a bit long! If I were you I would get it there and date men and women. Explore that side while you can! The feelings will most likely continue to come back throughout your life.
     
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    I don't think you are lesbian. I think you might be bisexual or maybe just with the wrong person. To me it sounds like your bored of your partner which to be honest isn't that abnormal. I know you probably feel bad about breaking your family but have you ever thought about maybe taking a break from your husband? Have you ever told him your feelings? I can't tell you what you are and what you're not only you know that but that's what I think is happening.
     
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    He knows where I am at right now and knows I'm not feeling "the spark". We wouldn't take a break unless we were likely going to split. But I do need to focus on me and getting feeling good again. And we'll start couples therapy. It's normal to feel this way I know. He is amazing and my best friend and we get along and communicate great. I've just been lacking in the sexual desire. Throughout my life I have been attracted to way more women than men and it is always more intense than attraction to men. So I do think I am leaning that direction. It's hard to think of not exploring that side of myself but I hope to come to peace with that as I wouldn't want to give up the amazing husband I have.
     
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    Well I think you are atleast headed in the right direction. I think it's great that he is willing to go through couples therapy with you. It's very nice of him to do that. At least then maybe you'll get some more clarity on what to do. I can't imagine it has been easy for you considering you've been going through this for 5 years. I hope you do know that their is nothing wrong with you. There's nothing wrong if you like women but there's also nothing wrong with you trying to work on this as long as you both are happy and can come to a compromise that's what matters. Thank you for chatting with me. I really appreciate it.
     
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    Thanks so much :slight_smile: It was good chatting with you too. Good luck with everything on your end!
     
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    Other than fantasies, do you think about being in a relationship with a woman in other ways? Like chatting over breakfast or going to beach together, for example.
     
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    Other than in fantasies I don't think about women. I don't see myself marrying and settling down with a woman. I've never actually had a crush on a woman. I feel a bit shy around masculine women but I don't know if it's because it's so uncommon to see women like that around where I live. But I've only seen myself with a man. It's just lately none of them are doing it for me.
     
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    You don't have to answer these questions...

    Are your fantasies about women in the context of a relationship? Have you ever fantasied about men?

    Do you fantasize about being in a relationship with a man? Like, shopping together, etc.

    As crushes on women go, I would have said the same thing a couple years ago. But, I've had friendships where I've been jealous about them hanging out with other women, and just figured I really wanted to be their best friend. Only you can know whether you've had similar experiences.

    Also, not all lesbians are masculine.

    When you're out and about, who catches your eye the most? Men? Women? Both?
     
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    The fantasies are things that I've seen in porn. I used to be an avid porn watcher and I haven't watched it in over 6 months. I'm hardly if ever in the fantasies. I'm almost always an observer. I have thought about men. Not sexually as much more in the terms of a relationship. The only time I ever think about sex with a man is when I know the guy and really like him but it's been a long time since that. Some men used to be all I would think about. I've only ever had that nervous gut tingly feeling with men but it's been like 4 years since that. I mentioned masculine women because I've hung out with feminine lesbian women and I don't feel intimidated by them at all. I have a question I don't know what your status is but do lesbian woman feel horny around men during that time of the month? I know it's a random question but I've noticed when it's around that time I find myself super horny around men only to not feel that way about them after. Also I check out both. Women more in terms of curves men more in terms of their build and face. I've always found men in shape aesthetically pleasing but not always sexually attractive if that makes sense. Ive always thought finding someone aesthetically attractive and sexually attractive were the same thing but I'm realizing it's not.
     
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    There are some things you've said that I relate to and some things that I don't.

    This I completely relate to. I've never been into men and I don't really understand it either.

    For me, when I fantasize about women, I am in the fantasy and it's usually in the context of a relationship. I've never fantasied about a man that I've known, only women that I've known. That applies to my current (opposite-sex) partner too. I haven't fantasized about a man for quite a while, but when I have they've always been outside the context of a relationship and the focus was never on their bodies, i.e. they were normally clothed. I hope this is not TMI.

    My situation is similar to Findingmyself1; in a long-term relationship with a man, have a young child together, have been a stay-at-home parent, and currently considering the best way forward.

    I can only answer that question for myself. I've never really felt horny around men. I feel horny during that time of the month though, but it women that I think about. For me, feeling that I'm gay or not tends to fluctuate, so sometimes I feel gay and other times I don't. Yesterday it occurred to me that this may be linked to whether I feel horny or not.

    I'm no expert, but I don't know why lesbians would become horny around men at a particular time of the month. Your feelings are valid and unique to you, so only you can pick it apart and try to understand what's going on. Do you feel horny around women at other times?

    Do you ever see women that you find attractive? Do you find yourself still thinking about them hours later?
     
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    I've seen women that I think are very beautiful but I don't think about them hours later. I don't think about what they think about me either if that makes sense. I had one time where I felt nervous when I went shopping with my friend. She went underwear shopping and all I could think about is what if I get turned on? What does that say about me? I wasn't but I kept stressing about that thought.
     
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    Were you attracted to your friend?

    I've been in lingerie shops with female friends. I wasn't attracted to any of them, but I remember feeling that, whilst I knew I was allowed to be there, I didn't really belong as part of the group. It's hard to explain. I wasn't worried that I would be turned on though.
     
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    From what I have read, worrying that you may be lesbian without actually having that crushing attraction, does not mean you are gay. It doesn't mean you have HOCD but it could be just fears and obsessions over something that isn't necessarily real. If you have that attraction and think about women in a romantic way, then those are more signs. I would just relax and be open to either men or women and see where that takes you :slight_smile:

    My update.. I told myself all was fine yesterday with me and my husband and I can be happy and not stress. But then realize I have insane feelings for a close friend and had butterflies all night last night and couldn't sleep. It's almost like as soon as I tell myself we are fine, I get more intense feelings towards women. It's hard to know what to do with this.
     
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    She's a beautiful woman and has great sex appeal. Most men that look at her find her attractive because although she is beautiful she is also confident. I see her almost as another sister because she's close to my family but I was nervous that day maybe because of the OCD that was going on in my head. Now when I see her I just see her as a friend and I've never wanted anything more. I don't think of her in a sexual or romantic way.
     
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    Maybe you just have to feel those feelings. I think the fact that you can acknowledge that you like her is a good step. It's like a quote I read "sometimes the only way over is through". There's nothing wrong with having those feelings and the more you try to push them away the more you are going to struggle. It's hard when you have this internal struggle within yourself. I know. It's so terrible feeling like what you feel is wrong because then you don't even allow yourself to indulge in a thought and I think that is painful. Your mind is a judgement free zone and you can think and feel whatever you want in there.
     
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    Jenny173, since you're currently single, this seems like good advice to me. Be open to both, just be and see what happens.
     
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    Last summer and the summer prior I put so much pressure on myself to find someone, that I would continue to date men I just didn't really like. So everytime we did do something intimate everything but intercourse I didn't enjoy it because I didn't like them to begin with. At this point in my life I've just let myself be single and if I find someone I like then I'll pursue it.
     
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