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Is it possible?

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by Sebby45, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. Sebby45

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    Is it possible for any transgender person to come to terms with their biological body and not feel dysphoria? I'm not talking about conversion, rather a sense of integration without the desire for hormones, surgery, etc.

    I've been working on loving my body the way it is and blocking hateful thoughts surrounding my body. Most days now, I don't think about gender and am able to go about my life with less triggering moments. I don't know if this will last. I acknowledge that I have a male mind, but don't try to take it out on myself for not being physically male. I'm tired of hating myself. I've done it way to long and am trying to turn things around.

    Does anyone else feel this way?

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    I do think it is possible. I think if society saw me as my gender that I would have significantly less dysphoria. I guess I'm still on my journey for liking my body for how it is. I have mixed chest dysphoria, with some of the time wanting my breasts to be shrunk and other times I'm fine with it. And if I lost more weight and workout more I feel that my body would look more androgynous.

    But I think it is possible.
     
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    I think it's totally possible. I'm not like that right now but like Niko said, if society didn't care sooo much about the implications of sex, I would probably be quite at terms with my body. Who's to say it's not possible to become comfortable in one's body as a trans person regardless?

    I also admire you for working on your self-love, it sounds like a really healthy thing for you to be doing!
     
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    I don't think you can get rid of dysphoria entirely, but I think you can lessen social dysphoria and learn to cope with physical dysphoria without physical transition.
     
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    There are some interesting statistics (the first place I remember hearing them quoted was in the wonderful documentary "Growing Up Trans") that about 40% of youth who experience gender dysphoria will resolve it completely without transitioning or any other form of treatment.

    I don't know how reliable that data is, but I do know that there are definitely some people for whom that is true. And there are, of course, many others, for whom the dysphoria is an indicator of a need to have their physical body match their mental state of self.

    This is something to discuss with a therapist for sure.
     
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    Hey it is possible I've been doing the same thing. I learned to like my body instead of hating it but to be honest I started to hating it again when I realised I'm transgender. I guess it was because I found out my hate had a reason but I know I would be able to like my body again if I wanted to. I had the same reason as you but now I wanna change things so dysphoria is kinda necessary I suppose.
     
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    I think it might be possible for some people. I don't know if it's possible to stop feeling genuine gender dysphoria entirely, but it might be possible to lessen it. I don't think that's possible for me, but maybe for other people.
     
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    I think it is. Mine used to be a lot worse before I started to socially transition. I still have it to some degree, but it isn't as bad. I don't know if I want to medically transition and I think I could live without doing it for sure.
     
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    Thanks Chip, that is some interesting data. I am working with a therapist on this issue and things have been going well.

    Also, thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread so far. It is always awesome to get feedback. :bow:

    Sebby
     
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    I can't enirely relate. I used to hate that I'm a girl, but it somehow... vanished. I unpacked this feeling. I hated my body, because I thought I had to do certain things I didn't like because of it, and that I can't do things I want to do, because they are "for men". The society is just so binary, and they attribute certain traits to the sex, like it was obvious and straightforward, and true for everyone. But it's not. Men like motorcycles. Right? No. Wrong. There are women who win motorcycle races, and men who never thought about riding a motorcycle. I thought I can't achieve things in career, can't be fit, have to be a mother and housewife, have to wear frilly, uncomfortable things, and so forth... And all that because my sex is female. And I realised that all the divisions are false, and I can do anything and be exactly who I want to be, with a vagina. Physical differences are not very big. I disliked my period? I worked on making it more managable. I wanted to be fitter? I did sports. Childbirth? I don't ever have to do it. And how does that differ from having an illness for half a year, like a broken leg, anyway? If we throw all the societal bullshit out of the window of course. Boobs are mammary glands. Nothing more. They are meant to produce milk, end of story. Not to be "feminine", whatever the hell that means. Plenty of women don't ever use them. Societal bullshit goes right through the window. I hated frilly clothes? Here we go, they sell black baggy dresses. They also make jeans and t-shirts. Make-up and shaving? Why the hell? Who said I have to? Don't like it, don't do it. sImple. A woman can do anything a man can do except very few things like impregnanting a woman.

    Sorry, that was a flame. But those are my feelings towards the gender binary. I lived like that for a long time. Ignoring norms.

    Then I realised that people see me completely wrong, read my thoughts, feelings, intentions, wrong. And that's when I started to purposefully experiement with gender expression. It's just down to what people see, and guess what - they are wrong. I'm currently trying to fix that and I guess I'm on a good way. Because socialising gets, hm, easier and more enjoyable. That's a social transition.

    I say I'm fine with my body. But I will probably never achieve what cis people think is comfort. I won't ever feel comfortable with my partner looking at my "down there". Because I have a loose wire in my head that can't be fixed and which tells me I have male genitals, and have all "programs" on how to use them. I want to have sex together, and I don't feel my body the way it looks. I don't see how this can be solved completely. Surgery won't feel like a correctly grown body, because you can't make it with such crude tools. I want to guide my partner and show them my body like it feels. I had surgery once for other reasons. The nerves don't ever completely heal. The feeling is misplaced. That's what I feel down there too. The feeling is broken and misplaced, there is lots of noise, as if I had a surgery. But I did not. It's just my brain. I don't think I can stop feeling like my bits are deforemd. But I don't understand the big deal about it. It's a loose wire. Oh well. I guess I'll live on. I can have a strap-on to feel comfortable with sex and have it like I want to / find it natural, and it will be good enough. I can also not let my (minor) body & sexual issues interfere with my life.

    I dislike this whole mindset... however I feel about that or not, I have a problem to solve, and it's all there is to it.

    What I found to be a deadly thing is to think about my body through the lens of social pressure. It's my body. Only I get to decide what it means.
     
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    Social transition can include a lot of things: dressing in a way that matches your gender identity more closely, adpoting an according way or speaking, mannerisms, hobbies/interests, other activities, gender roles, coming out, going by a different name, changing your pronouns... I've researched the subject a lot :slight_smile: Of course it's down to what you feel comfortable with and don't do anything that feels forced. I also find that things that I enjoy things that are "masculine" anyway. The part about activities helps socialise with your gender, the rest helps to get people perceive you as your gender and with the interpersonal dynamic.