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Today Was A Tough Day

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by tryingtomakesen, Apr 26, 2017.

  1. tryingtomakesen

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    I don't know about today made it so rough for me. I woke up this morning with that same feeling I have once or twice a day. The feeling that I'm being stupid and am about to make the biggest mistake of my life. Yet, I can't help thinking about what it would be like to be with a girl, not just sexually. What it would be like to be in a relationship with a woman.

    My husband knows nothing about it. I couldn't tell him until I'm sure, because if I told him what was going on in my head he would totally freak out. Of course he would, that would be totally natural. Wouldn't I do the same if the roles were reversed? In the meantime I feel like I'm just going through the motions. Fake smile, pretending like nothing major is going on. I can't talk to any of my friends about it. They would freak out too and probably stop talking to me. If I were to ever act on my feelings, all of my friends would be gone.

    I'm an emotional rollercoaster. How do I know if the feelings I'm feeling are real? Part of me feels like I won't know unless I try it. Not sleeping with someone else, but going out with a woman. Spending time with her, holding hands, kissing. Then I feel like I would know for sure. But that isn't right. That's not fair to my husband. That wouldn't be fair to any woman to be a part of my experiment to test my sexuality.

    My therapist suggested I go on a couple of dating sites to just what kind of women are out there. I did and I can't get this one girl out of my head. She doesn't live far from the city I live in and she is currently separated. I want to contact her, but know that that would not be right. I have so many doubts right now.

    Today I felt like I could feel a depression setting in. I feel so much better when I talk to my therapist, but when I come home I am so conflicted. Anyone else been through this? Anyone else going through this?
     
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    I am not married (no sig other) and figuring out my sexuality has been challenging. I can only imagine it would be exponentially harder with a husband. How do you think he would react to a discussion about bisexuality (a new found attraction to the same gender when you have only been attracted to males before)?
    Not sure at all what the "right" thing to do here is.
     
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    This sounds so familiar. Discovering yourself seems so overwhelming. It sounds like we are in similar places in our journey. My first therapy appointment was yesterday. I walked out of there feeling so much better, but today was hell.

    I've been trying out some gay apps to talk to guys. I've made mistakes and given into temptation there before, but I've found it very helpful to be very clear about my situation, married, and my goals, friends and conversation. There are other people like us out there and it's ok to chat with them. Know your boundaries and stick to them.

    On hard days, I try to remind myself that all my days aren't hard. A good one will come along soon. It seems like the universe owes me a bunch of good days right now!

    Hang in there. I won't tell you it's easy, but I can tell you, you aren't alone.
     
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    JubileeQ, there is no way he would be open to a discussion. If I were to talk to him about it, that would be it. I would have to be absolutely sure that what I am feeling is true and real. We belong to a religion that does not accept homosexuality of any kind. So if I did have this conversation, my only option to stay in my religion and in my marriage would be to suppress my feelings and I can't think of a worst way for my husband or myself to live.

    I can't have that conversation with my husband. It would most likely result in the end of my marriage and I'm not ready for that. I have kids to think about. So I need to be as sure as I can that my feelings are true and real.

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    ARB, it is so difficult. I have the same feelings when I go to therapy. I feel so much better and lighter afterwards. Even my husband has remarked that I seem happier and that makes him so happy. Of course that made me feel like a jerk. He wouldn't be so happy if he knew what we were talking about.

    I am so tempted to contact the girls that I see and am attracted to on these websites. Partly because I am curious. Would they go for someone like me? Also, because I find myself wanting that experience of being in a relationship with a girl. I keep thinking that maybe it would be okay to initiate contact, but I think that is a slippery slope for me.

    I am just under so much pressure with my marriage, my kids and I'm going to school as well. I don't want to make any big decisions right now.

    Thanks for your post. It's nice to know that there are others out there like me.
     
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    Just imagine what it would feel like to be intimate with a woman. I've seen this advice a lot around here. Don't know how well it works as a test, but I imagine it would work well
     
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    I know how you feel so much it's scary. I too feel better when I talk to my therapist (or email the one friend who knows- and the only one who won't ditch me for it). But then I have doubts creep in.

    I can really relate to the not feeling like I would know for sure unless I try it. http://emptyclosets.com/forum/sexua...o-i-have-cheat-my-husband-know-if-im-gay.html is a thread I started just after I came here. I've been told people who are straight don't fantasize about the same sex. They don't find stories and movies (not porn but romantic/sexually tense movies) about same sex relations attractive, and more so then heterosexual ones. They don't "girl-watch". I do all those things.

    And what has kept me on this journey, and why I haven't just said that I'm straight for the sake of my family is this: why would I invent this? Out of all the twisted things I could do for attention or to manipulate people or whatever, why on earth would I say "Hey you know what? I know I've thought that I'm heterosexual and lived that way my whole life, despite having same sex attactions dating back to junior high/high school, but you know what sounds great? I'll pretend I can't ignore it anymore, totally restart my life after 35, so that I can hurt my husband, hurt my children, and lose all my friends!" *insert heavy sarcasm* I won't even go into the horrific notion that going back on the dating scene is to me.

    I'm willing to bet it's the same for you. (*hug*)

    I can't pm yet, but if you want to talk more feel free to post on my wall. Our journeys seem very much alike.
     
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    AbsoluteNerd, I do imagine what it would be like to be with a woman. It seems like it's all I think about lately. I think about contacting one of the women that I've seen on dating sites so often. It's getting harder and harder to resist this. But I can't because I'm in no position to do anything right now. It's difficult, because I feel like I really want to experience that.
     
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    I wish I could be more helpful. I'm not too good at the whole advice thing, but I try
     
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    kunoichi, it sounds like you and I are going through the exact same thing! It is so tough. It's like being on an emotional rollercoaster. Sometimes I don't know how much more I can take. I feel fantastic after therapy too. By my next appointment I'm a wreck.

    I hear what you're saying when it comes to movies. The one I watch a lot is Kiss Me. I have to make sure that I delete it out of my viewing activity so my husband doesn't see it.

    More and more the past couple of days I have been thinking that I know the answer to the sexuality question. I'm just not ready to admit that to myself. I do tend to live in my head and I'm really trying to take my time to make such a big decision. I'm under a lot of stress and pressure right now.

    Everyday that goes by my desire to be involved with a woman grows stronger. I don't work right now because I'm a stay at home mom and go to school. Maybe I just have too much time to think? I just don't know. Thanks for your post. It's nice to meet someone who can totally understand what I'm going through. The only people I have been able to talk to about this are my therapist and my mom.
     
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    I don't even live with my husband and I go through and delete a lot of my viewing activity. I allow sites like this one to stay on my home screen, because realistically no one is going to see my computer but me. But I got a separate Amazon account, separate Netflix account, everything, so I could read books or watch something and not worry about it coming up in my recommendations. My favorite movies so far are "Better than Chocolate", "Imagine Me and You", and for a fun comedy "But I'm a cheerleader". I have "Kiss Me" on my next to view though.

    I'm going to school too. What are you studying? I'm a psychology major.

    Even days I'm busy I think about this a lot. It's kinda always in the background. I know what you mean about knowing it and not being ready to admit it to yourself. I recently changed my status on the little sidebar from "questioning" to ">99% sure..." and even that tiny change on a gay-focused site took me about 30 minutes to make, not because I think it's wrong but because I think it's right.

    Given your background, you've obviously tried everything to live another life without this attraction. You wouldn't have asked for this, but it's there and it has to be dealt with. At least that's what I'm telling myself...
     
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    Your situation resonates with me. I was married with two kids and for year's i suppressed my feelings for women. It was probably about two years ago that i finally started to accept that I'm not straight, though i wasn't exactly sure because I'd never done anything more than kisss a woman, which yes, i did enjoy but it wasn't enough "proof" that i was definitely bi.
    My ex husband went through my internet history and discovered my secret and i spent 18 months in hell, things were never the same. We are now separated and while my interest in girls wasn't the main factor, it did play a role.
    Since the separation i have spent time with a woman and discovered that my feelings were real, and I'm not straight. I'm not saying that you separate from your husband or anything like that, but i think you should trust your instincts. You know how you feel and you should trust those feelings.

    Good luck!
     
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    kunoichi, I'm going to school to get my BA in Liberal Studies and then I'll move on to a teaching credential program.

    I have seen "Imagine You and Me." That is a good one too, but I can't find it on Netflix or Hulu. I'll have to check out that other one.

    I volunteered in my son's classroom today and it was a crazy day. Even then, I can't stop thinking about being with a woman. My son's teacher is a lesbian. She had been married to a man and she has two girls. I want to talk to her so bad about what I'm going through, but even though we are cool with each other and we talk we don't talk like that. You know? I wish I could though.

    Today I introduced myself to the principal at the school. I did this because I'm at the school a lot and see her around a lot. Also, I'm hoping to get a part-time job there as a paraprofessional and once I'm done with all of my schooling my dream would be to teach at this school. The other reason I introduced myself to her, is because I am attracted to her. She's totally my type. Nothing will come from it. She's probably straight and if she's not she probably wouldn't be into someone like me.

    I feel like I know how I really feel about my sexuality, I just can't bring myself to do anything about it yet.

    You're right when you say that I wouldn't have asked for this. Not because I'm ashamed of it, it's just that it would be so much easier for everyone if I could just be attracted to my husband and love him like I used too. Right now, I'm trying to just take it one day at a time. Trying to just make it until my next appointment with my therapist in a few days.

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    I am here, my hats off to you. I don't think I can make it two years feeling this way. I'm not even sure I can make it two more months. I'm trying to take it one day at a time, but I feel like I'm failing miserably.

    I've never kissed a girl, but I know that I really want to. I have all of these doubts though. One is that I'm afraid that the kind of girl I want won't want me. I'm also not ready to make any big decisions yet, but I feel like they are on horizon.

    I wish I had a gay friend to talk to about this stuff. My son's teacher used to be married to a man and she has two girls. She has been involved with a woman for awhile now. I so badly want to talk to her about all of this. But that's a pretty deep conversation. How would I go about talking to her about something like that? She's really cool and we talk, but not about stuff like that. I wish I could, because it would be nice to have a friend in the community. Then again, if I did that it would make everything so real.

    You're right when you say that I know my feelings, I do know them. But I'm not ready to act on them yet. I don't know how long that will last though. It's getting harder and harder to pretend with my husband and I find that I have less and less interest in doing that.

    Thank you for your post. I really appreciate having someone to talk to who has gone through the same thing.
     
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    That sounds great. Right now I'm thinking I'm going to go for my doctorate because I'm interested in research. But we'll see.


    That is so very much where I am. I want to start moving into my new life but I can't bring myself to talk with my husband. There are some legit concerns in that department with his temper and our custody situation, but he deserves to know before anyone else does. I signed up to go to an LGBT women's meetup event and I still haven't told him. Now, there is a zero percent chance of running into anyone I know there but I still feel guilty; I feel like I owe him being the first to know, and he's been my best friend for so long it's very strange to be hiding everything important going on in my life (with my faith as well as my sexuality; my closet is doing double duty at the moment. :icon_wink) And even if I was willing to set my feelings aside and try to fix the marriage (it's complicated) I don't know if I think that's fair to him. If it were reversed I wouldn't want to be married to a man who was wanting to be with another man, regardless of how I feel about homosexuality.
    Do you ever worry about how your children will feel; if with the beliefs you've raised them in they will turn on you or not want to be with you or something?


    I'm not...ashamed of it, I just wish I could find a way that allowed me to keep my old life but I don't think there is one. When I acknowledged this openly for the first time, even though it was only to myself and one other friend, it was like I opened a door I can't shut. I'm sure it's the same for you.
     
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    I really sympathise with you, it's such a hard situation.
    As for your sons teacher, i actually really understand the need to want to talk with her, to connect with someone in the lgbt community. My sons teacher was actually one of the first few people i came out to. She's a lesbian and actually confided in me that she was, she's not out at school. We have a really good relationship and we talk about quite personal things. I ended up telling her i wasn't straight a little while ago, and while we don't talk about it often, a casual mention here and there, it's comforting. You don't have to make a big deal about it but if you have a good relationship with her and you talk already, maybe consider just casually dropping it in? You don't have to go in to details, maybe just saying you're not exactly straight and take it from there...?
     
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    I was already divorced when I started questioning my sexuality, and eventually began a relationship with a woman. (But honestly, reflecting on my life there were all kinds of signs along the way that I have always been a lesbian, but just denied that part of me...)

    People here really do understand your struggle! And many find themselves in the same position. I definitely can see why you would want to talk to your sons teacher about what you are experiencing, since she too was once married, has children and is now with a woman. But I understand your reluctance to just randomly bring this topic up.

    However, since you are in school to get into the teaching profession, I am wondering if you could ask her if she would mind meeting you for coffee to discuss some school issues. Maybe ask for her advice on classes to take, or some insight into the various roles and specialties you can get into in a school system? After all this is totally valid too, you really do want to become an educator! And she really does have expertise in this field. No pressure to bring up the sexuality thing, but if the conversation seems to lend itself to that, and you feel comfortable, you certainly can. At least this gives you a 'valid' opening to do so.

    And just as a side note, if an acquaintance of mine approached me and said, 'Hey Moonsparkle, I remember you were married for a long time and then you ended up with a woman, I think I might be going through the same sort of thing, can I talk to you about it?' I would be happy to talk with them. I have had the children of friends approach me about the field of work I am in, thinking they might want to study this in college. They just want info on the reality of working in this field...and again
    I am more than happy to meet with them to discuss it.

    I guess what I'm saying is that most people are more than willing to share information about anything they have 'expertise' in. Most people are happy to help people along the way...I know sexuality is a much more loaded topic than college courses, but I still think most people who have been there(and are out themselves) would be quite open to discussing it. All the best to you:slight_smile:
     
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    I can relate to a lot of what you're experiencing. I don't feel that I'll be able to help much, as I'm still pretty much in the same place as you, but I hope it helps to know you're not alone.

    My long-term (male) partner has no idea about my questioning. Like you, I am unwilling to discuss it with him until I am completely sure. I'm a lot more sure now, than I was a year ago, but it's still a scary prospect.

    Keep questioning. There's no rush to make big changes. :slight_smile:
     
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    This. I haven't told anyone except my therapist and you guys, but now it's all consuming. A steamroller that is running over my entire life. I don't want to stop it, but there has to be a way to turn it off sometimes so I can live my life while I work it out.
     
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    kunoichi, I'm sorry if it seemed to imply that you are ashamed of your feelings. That's definitely not what I meant. I meant more like, I know that people I know would probably feel like I should be ashamed of what I feel and I'm not. But a lot of people that I know act disgusted by gay people. The way the talk about gay people and what not. It's not hateful or anything like that, but it's definitely not nice.

    I too feel like I want to move on with my life. That's really cool that you are going to that meet up. I wish I could do something like that. But I'm still pretty new to this whole thing and I'm taking baby steps.

    I'm not too sure how my kids would feel. I think that the hardest thing for them would be not living with their dad. I have a feeling that they would eventually be fine. I don't know how our faith would play into things with them though? They are really little. My oldest is only six. I would hope that I can and have raised them to be open minded and to understand that you don't have to necessarily agree with everything a person says or does, but you can still respect them and even love them.

    That's great that you're going for your doctorate. How much longer do you have to go?

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    I am here & Moonsparkle, Thank you for your suggestions. I have been thinking about casually dropping some hints here and there when talking to my son's teacher. Kind of like testing the waters. I haven't really had a chance to do this yet, because it's the first week back from spring break and it's been a crazy week. The days I have volunteered in her class this week have been hectic. But I feel like I'm a bolder person now and feel like trying to talk to her about this stuff. We shall see if I'm able to follow through.

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    ARB, I can so relate with what you are saying. It's the same for me too. It is so difficult to figure out what you want to do and to make the right decision when having these thoughts running through your mind all day long. Sometimes it's hard for me to get my schoolwork done because of it.
     
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    No worries. :slight_smile: I knew what you meant. I wish I could feel so firm that I'm not ashamed. I think I'm mostly not, but I'm sure that as long as I've believed homosexuality is wrong I'm still dealing with that a little. A lot of people I know act disgusted by gay people too. Although I have to say the attitude is more negative towards two men then two women, at least in my experience.

    My children already aren't living with me, so that's something they've already had to deal with. I'd like to have more custody then I do but I have to get to where I can afford a place big enough for them. Right now I'm renting a room because that's about what I can afford. Right now I know my husband would be open to it, and I'm worried that when I come out he won't be. I'm going to have to talk to him soon. I'm beginning to face some questions that are getting hard to answer, like why I've stopped going to church.

    My kids range between 5 and 15, and we have a large family. So several of them are old enough to have been raised in our faith for a while, and to have at least on some level have it become theirs. Although we've never taught them it's ok to make fun or be mean to people, that doesn't mean they would be ok with their mom embracing a way of life we always told them was sinful.

    I don't know for sure that I'm going to go for my doctorate, but I'm really considering it. I like the idea of doing counseling, which you can do with a master's, but I also like research and that is a doctorate.
     
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    kunoichi, I think the reason I'm not so ashamed is because the area where I live has a large gay population. So nobody out here really makes a big deal of it. It's easy for me to say that right now I feel okay. Everything is still all inside. I'm not walking around holding another girls hand or showing affection. But where I live it wouldn't be that big of deal with the general public.

    Lately I've been thinking that if I follow through with my feelings that my friends will think that I didn't care enough for them and like I'm abandoning them. They don't know that I have been seriously struggling with my sexuality for this past year. Did you say that you had confided in one of your friends? That's really cool. It must be nice to talk to a friend about what you are going through.

    As far as my kids are concerned, if I leave my religion I would still let my husband take them to services. I think it's a good thing that they are raised in this religion. It helps them in being a good person. My kids are pretty independent like me. And if they see me living a different way, I think it will keep their minds open. At least I hope it will. As they grow and mature they will have to make their own decisions regarding religion.

    Sounds like you have a lot going on with school. I do too, I'm in crunch mode for the last couple of days of classes. Do you go to an actual campus for school or are you doing your schooling online?