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Do you think gay people should be able to flirt anywhere?

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  1. Lackey

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    I have a male cousin who is gay and sometimes it gets him down that he can't just go up and flirt with any guy he wants. He doesn't like resorting to just gay clubs or gay websites. He thinks it's unfair that straight guys can flirt with and walk up to any girl. Any advice?
     
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    They can't flirt with any girl, some of them are lesbian/not interested. Considering that straight guys are in the majority, not being able to flirt with all of them is pretty fair to me.
     
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    Sure, they should be able to, but life doesn't always work out that way. If I was attracted to a guy, and didn't know he was attracted to guys at all, I would be really nice and friendly, but I wouldn't make it obvious I was attempting to flirt or that I was attracted to him. You have to be pretty subtle. Unfortunately, straight guys often get very offended if a guy finds them attractive, so you can't be too open or free about flirting with guys if you're male.
     
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    I understand how he feels. Unfortunately, It's a huge risk for gay men since a lot of men will take offense and may physically harm him at worst. At best, he just won't find a lot of guys attracted to him since straight people make up the majority.

    For me, I wish there were LGBT meet ups that were less sexual. It's mostly bars and clubs out there.
     
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    So I guess him flirting with a random guy might not be a good idea, then?
     
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    I'd say no. There's nothing wrong with being nice and friendly with someone, but I'd say overt flirting isn't a good idea if the guy's sexuality isn't known.
     
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    I find that very brave of him, and you know what? He has a higher chance, statistically, of attracting attention.
     
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    Well, he doesn't go up to random guys. But it saddens him that he can't like the straight guys go up to women.
     
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    Well, to be fair most straight men don't have good luck with approaching women either.
     
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    I always did back when I was single. I mean my gaydar's pretty reliable so I guess you could say I was at least approaching guys I thought might be gay. I only remember once when I was definitely wrong. It was a guy at my gym. He was actually pretty flattered, said something along the lines of that he wasn't gay but that he sort of assumed if he was that I would be out of his league. He said it made his day.:lol:
     
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    Aww.....that's cute.
     
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    As long as you feel safe to do so, hell yes. Flirt with anyone that you want. I personally just assume everyone is gay until proven otherwise.

    When people say "But you don't know if that person is gay" is more out of 1) fear 2) making sure we don't make straight people uncomfortable.

    1) Yeah, if you think your safety is at stake then keep to yourself 100%

    2) I didn't come out to make straight people comfortable.

    If I guy gets bothered by someone flirting with him, then that's on him.

    There is also the important part of pointing out that flirting and sexual harassment are different things. A lot of straight guys think that sexual harassment is the same thing as flirting. They are not.

    Make sure your friend doesn't just try to imitate straight men, because my god that is never the end goal *shivers*
     
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    It's my cousin, not a friend. Well, I just hope he doesn't get himself in trouble with a straight man who might become hostile or violent or just plain feel disrespected. :icon_sad:
     
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    That's everyone hope really.

    We hope we don't get killed for holding hands in public or seeming too gay or because a drunk asshole wants a fight that day.

    Women hope straight men don't hurt them for turning them down "the wrong way".

    Safety first, always. But if someone feels comfortable then go for it.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    Yep I have to agree with that.
    There is a time and a place for anyone gay or straight to flirt. For sure do not do it in a business setting. Sometimes (gay or straight) that can be considered sexual harassment
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     
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    Yeah i feel ya. Its just not safe to flirt whenever, wherever and i'm not gonna advocate it. As much as i find it disheartening, you can't change people and it shouldn't become about that.
     
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    I agree about the bars and clubs. Can't people be friends?
     
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    I think another way of looking at this would be to remove the gender...

    If a straight person was to flirt with a queer person they'd humor them/politely reject them.

    If a queer person was to do that to a straight person the response could range from banter and polite rejection through to abusive comments or assault.

    The issue he's facing is not just fear or rejection, but fear of retaliation,

    I can't speak for female members, but I know I personally have been fearful of flirting with a cute guy because I didn't know his sexual orientation and if he were straight this could end up in conflict.