1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

LGBT News Pregnant Women Not to be Called "Expectant Mothers"

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by dyl pickle, Jan 30, 2017.

Thread Tools

Thread Tools

Page 1 of 2
  1. dyl pickle

    dyl pickle
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    24
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Gender:
    Male (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Not sure if this really counts as news, but take a look at the below image.
    [​IMG]

    In case anyone can't see it - it's basically saying that anyone who is pregnant should not be referred to as an "expectant mother" as it may offend them if they are transgender.

    What are your opinions on this (mine is below so don't let it influence yours)?



    I get where they are going with this and it's nice that they are trying to be considerate, but really? I feel like this is a bit overboard. The word "sorry" exists for a reason, and if you make a mistake and are corrected, then you can apologise and move on. Saying that the term "expectant mother" should be eliminated because there is a chance that they could be transgender seems to be just a bit too extreme. Obviously, if people were to follow that rule I'd have nothing wrong with it, but I just don't think it's fully necessary because (as I said before) you can always just apologize and correct what you said.
     
    #1 dyl pickle, Jan 30, 2017
  2. DoriaN

    DoriaN
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,106
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Canada
    I think it's silly.
     
    #2 DoriaN, Jan 30, 2017
  3. midwestgirl89

    midwestgirl89
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2011
    Messages:
    1,101
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Indiana
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Forgive me if I'm wrong for asking this but why would it be offensive? I don't understand at all.
     
    #3 midwestgirl89, Jan 30, 2017
  4. dyl pickle

    dyl pickle
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    24
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Gender:
    Male (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Some people
    That's exactly what I'm saying. They think that saying "mother" would then indicate female, and if the pregnant person identifies as male/other then they will be offended. I think most people that don't identify as female and are pregnant will expect to be referred to as women, so it's really just all ridiculous.
     
    #4 dyl pickle, Jan 30, 2017
  5. deepwaters7

    deepwaters7
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2017
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Woodstock, Ontario
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    I think it's a little silly, even if you get it wrong i don't think they will care THAT much(going off my transgender friends). So i think it's unessesary but hey whatever
     
    #5 deepwaters7, Jan 31, 2017
  6. Andrew99

    Andrew99
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    Messages:
    3,402
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Milwaukee
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    That's hilarious.
     
    #6 Andrew99, Jan 31, 2017
  7. Assassin'sKat

    Assassin'sKat
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2016
    Messages:
    645
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    Your head, zombie.
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Totally dumb. Society is trying to control language more and more. Watch every little thing you say. It's not healthy, and it's not necessary. The vast majority of pregnant people are mothers, and it is unlikely that you will come across someone who identifies as anything else. In that rare case, you can make the exception for them. But until then, it is harmless to say "expectant mothers".
     
    #7 Assassin'sKat, Jan 31, 2017
  8. Kodo

    Kodo
    Full Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2015
    Messages:
    1,830
    Likes Received:
    849
    Location:
    California
    Gender:
    Male (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Yeah, not getting how that'd be offensive. The term "expectant mother" would only apply to a pregnant woman. If you were talking about a pregnant trans-guy it would be "expectant father." And so far as I know, it is very rare that a trans-woman could carry a child and even in this case it would still be "expectant mother." So where is the problem?
     
    #8 Kodo, Jan 31, 2017
  9. anthracite

    anthracite Guest

    How many are we? Seriously most mothers are happy to be called exactly that. We can't just take their joy for a mistake that can be, as said, easily corrected.
     
    #9 anthracite, Feb 1, 2017
  10. Zen fix

    Zen fix
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2015
    Messages:
    694
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    California
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    A few people
    Pretty dumb and a waste of time even discussing. What was the source of this? Are you sure it's not some BS made up for some Trumpkin website.
     
    #10 Zen fix, Feb 1, 2017
  11. dyl pickle

    dyl pickle
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    24
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Gender:
    Male (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Other
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Haha wouldn't be surprised if it was xD
     
    #11 dyl pickle, Feb 1, 2017
  12. andimon

    andimon
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2015
    Messages:
    549
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Eastern Europe
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    A few people
    It's just like that "Did you just assume my gender" bullcrap. Made up by the anti-sjws so that they have something to bitch about. Yes, there might be some people who'd get offended, but guess what - they're in the minority of the minority. Every sane trans man who undergoes pregnancy would understand the circumstances and not complain about such ludicrous non-issues.
     
    #12 andimon, Feb 2, 2017
  13. anthracite

    anthracite Guest

    Nope. I saw it in german news today. It's real and it shames our reputation. Honestly, fuck SJWs. We got plenty of rational, honorable activists of our own.
     
    #13 anthracite, Feb 2, 2017
  14. jaska

    jaska
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2014
    Messages:
    519
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    new zealand
    Gender:
    Male (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    that's insane
     
    #14 jaska, Feb 2, 2017
  15. purplepuppy

    purplepuppy
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2017
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    The madness
    Gender:
    Female (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Questioning
    Out Status:
    A few people
    I saw this in a newspaper on Monday, I think this is going way too far.
     
    #15 purplepuppy, Feb 2, 2017
  16. Matto_Corvo

    Matto_Corvo
    Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    2,270
    Likes Received:
    51
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Gender:
    Male (trans*)
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    My thoughts exactly.
     
    #16 Matto_Corvo, Feb 3, 2017
  17. Cinis

    Cinis Guest

    I'm always relieved that it's not as bad as in America here but then bullshit like that happens....urgs...


    Communication is important in these matters. Taking words from people won't improve it at all. If someone misgenders someone else and they fall into a tirade about not assuming gender then person A will probably have a bad first impression and be annoyed. If person B just said : Actually I'm x and I'd like you to refer to me as y, everyone will have a better time.
    Communication. Orwell's thought police helps no one.
     
    #17 Cinis, Feb 5, 2017
  18. AnguishXx

    AnguishXx
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2016
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Italy
    Gender:
    Genderqueer
    Gender Pronoun:
    They
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Don't be fooled, this is just a straw man argument. So people can get confused about what inclusiveness and respect really mean.
     
    #18 AnguishXx, Feb 6, 2017
  19. BeeWitched

    BeeWitched
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Europe
    The only thing that comes to my mind is that one's not an expectant mother for sure if there's still time for an abortion.
     
    #19 BeeWitched, Mar 2, 2017
  20. smallthinone60

    smallthinone60
    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2017
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    San Diego Ca
    The problem that I see is that this country is getting to sensitive . To ban a word or words because it offends someone is a little over the top.
     
    #20 smallthinone60, Mar 2, 2017
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 2